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  1. 18 points
    You're the only one calling her a "model operator." The headline says she "models customer service," and that's exactly what she's doing. Customer service isn't about seniority, it's about being nice to people. If you take a step back and read this thread from a viewpoint of a regular passenger who doesn't know or care anything about seniority, union issues, etc., perhaps you could even see why a lot of bus operators have the reputation of being rude, surly, etc. If you're going to go around with a chip on your shoulder, it gets notice by the riders. And no, they're not going to excuse you just because you spent the first half of your shift dealing with high school students on the #20. You may not think it's fair just because someone with limited seniority gets their picture in the paper. If that really gets you worked up, then you need to find another world to live in, because this world isn't fair. If I had a dollar for every time someone else got recognized for doing something I have done just as well or better, I could probably afford to buy my own paper. But instead of complaining about it, I would just shake their hand, say good for them, and thanks for giving all of us a better name. You say it's not about HATE (your own words), but then you use phrases like "SUCKHOLE," and "suck up" to describe this very operator, which "pisses [you] off" (again, your very own words). If it's not about hate, then what is it? Jealousy?
  2. 14 points
    ChicagoBus.org Transit Forum is becoming Chicago Transit Forum! Starting later this month, our new address will be chitransit.org. All posts and member accounts will remain exactly the same, and all existing links will continue to work. In addition to a fresh new look, we'll be introducing an improved mobile experience and additional enhancements. Frequently Asked Questions Why the change? The new name better reflects our members' interests in both bus and rail transportation. Will all content, membership information, and private messages remain in tact? Yes. Your account, settings, and posts will all remain in place. Please note that you will be required to log in again once the new forum launches, even if you have the "Remember me" option enabled. What will be different on the new forum? The new forum will sport a fresh new look and improved user interface. Rather than a separate (and limited) mobile view, the new forum will be fully adaptable to all screen sizes. Will there be a change in ownership or administration of the forum? No. Kevin and MetroShadow will continue to serve as moderators of the forum. What's happening to the non-forum pages of ChicagoBus.org? The rest of ChicagoBus.org will remain fully operational. You'll still be able to reach the forum from the site, and a list of recent forum discussions will continue to appear on the home page. Forum member Stanley Garmon (garmon757) will now be handling content updates to the buses and garages sections of ChicagoBus.org. With the help of our eagle-eyed forum members, Stanley will be keeping ChicagoBus.org up-to-date with the latest roster information and photos.
  3. 13 points
    Wow...such hate for the lady. Give her a break. As one who has driven (albeit commuter routes with motorcoaches) AND being a rider, I can say the following. Certainly driving a bus has its challenges. You are more likely to get better reviews if you have a regular route with decent passengers. I had one route where the passengers LOVED me because I was always on time and got them to and from work quickly and safely. Sometimes I was forced to do another route where the passengers had to get used to me because I was punctual. Their regular driver almost always ran 10 - 15 minutes behind schedule in the P.M. rush, which was okay with the regulars, but if the passengers were dependent on that on a day when I was driving that route, they would still be standing on the curb. I wound up with this route often because, other than the regular driver, no one else would do it (they were some rough people, but they never called in on me either). I was courteous and polite, but I told them I adhere to the schedule and if you want to get home with me, you'd better be on schedule like me. Some of this lady's riders probably have never ridden with her before, so seeing someone so energetic made them take notice. Just last week I witnessed a passenger and a driver going back and forth calling each other's mothers whores and such, because the passenger felt the bus was running 20 minutes late (in the frigid cold)for no reason. She gave it to him and he gave it back. So yes passengers can cause drivers to go off. Good customer service is part of the job, period. "Over the top" customer service is what gets attention and commendations. Based on what I read, she is 'over the top" That is probably her personality (not sucking up). People like her and the old guy that used to drive "the LOVE BUS" are outstanding because they stand out. I would agree that most do a good job and don't get appreciated for it, but I'd bet there are more "surlies" than over the tops which is why there are way more complaints than compliments.
  4. 12 points
  5. 11 points
    This photo was taken at Skokie Shops last week. There are a total of 8 cars being re-decaled into the as delivered livery. Four cars will get the full treatment, the end cars, and the four belly cars are suppose to get only the side striping. No dates or lines have been decided on yet. Mel
  6. 11 points
  7. 10 points
    You should never concern yourself with what people think about you. You seem like a nice guy. Thats all that matters! If someone is not a fan of yours, Who cares what negativity people think??? You are who you are!
  8. 10 points
    Frankly, I could write the exact same response. If an article saying nice things about a bus operator is a problem for you, then don't read it. I have a right to speak my mind when I don't agree with what you say (I don't see why you should have free reign of the board, while I should just "move on"). As for you having a problem with my remarks...well, don't read them. Move on. You have gone out of your way to write offensive things about the bus operator in this article. You never did answer my question about your motives behind calling the operator a "suckhole." It isn't hate, you claim. It isn't jealousy (well, you never said it wasn't, just that you didn't care for the remark). Then, what is it. What could possibly motivate you to write such an offensive remark about someone you have never in your life even met, and about which you have only read a commending article. You say my jealousy remark is "childish." Then, please tell me what kind of a remark "suckhole" is.
  9. 9 points
    Nova Smart Bus 7901 at South Shops on 2/3/ 2014
  10. 9 points
  11. 9 points
    I thought this was a worth while story to report. I don't live in the Chicagoland area but I felt this was a really great depiction of a model CTA bus operator (for once) who really enjoys her job. Big ups to Darlene for being customer centric and focused throughout some of the most challenging times with the CTA.
  12. 8 points
    So my pet project recently has been recreating the entire CTA in the game Train Simulator by Dovetail Games. I have completed part of the route but decided to restart from scratch using my own assets. Both the old route and new route are included in the download below. The new route includes the entire Brown Line, the entire Orange Line, the Kimball yard, the Skokie Shops, and a small segment of the State Street Subway (highly WIP; don't expect it to look nice). The old route includes the entire Brown line, Orange line, and parts of the Red and Green lines. Included with both routes are three types of vehicles: the Bombardier-built CTA 5000-series railcar, the Morrison-Knudsen-built 3200-series railcar, and a fictional "Automatic People Mover 400" vehicle (just for the fun of it). All the content is a work-in-progress, so keep that in mind! Videos New 5000-series Model and Texture Demo NEW Brownage (Brown/Orange Lines) Midway - Kimball (3200-series, new route) NEW Brownage (Brown/Orange Lines) Kimball - Midway (5000-series, new route) Brown Line Kimball - Loop (5000-series) Orange Line Loop - Midway (5000-series) Brownage (Brown/Orange Lines) Kimball - Midway (5000-series, old route, narrated) (OLD) Brown Line through State Street Subway* *This happened during a reroute due to a fire. Brown Lines went through the subway to 35th/Bronzeville-IIT Download Download the (work-in-progress) project here! (the latest version is usually the best) http://web.arcanox.me/rw_build/ Installation instructions: All routes require the New York - New Haven route. The old routes require the London - Brighton route. The new route requires the "Racetrack - Metra BNSF" route. Some of these routes should both be included in Train Simulator 2015 by default, and some are available in the Train Simulator DLC shop. Automatic Installation Download the "Automated Installer" archive from the link above Requires Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 or higher Extract the installer and all other files from the archive to their own folder Run the installer and follow the prompts The installation can take anywhere from a few minutes to an hour depending on your internet speed. The installer should properly update previous installations and fix broke installations. Manual Installation Download the ZIP archive from the link above Extract the archive to a folder of your choice Copy the "Assets" and "Content" folders to your RailWorks root directory so that they merge with the ones already there For Steam installations, the folder should be at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\RailWorks\ For non-Steam installations, the location may vary, but should be in the C:\Program Files (x86)\ directory. Route Details: There should be one route named CTA and one route named CTA (Old) included in the package. The one titled CTA is a new route on which I am using a lot more my own models, textures, etc and less third-party content. The old route has more of the Red Line, however, it is of lesser quality and is not being maintained any longer. The rolling stock used for the Red Line is a a custom-built rail vehicle modeled after the real CTA 5000-series railcars. The sounds should be very familiar to a regular CTA Red-, Purple-, Yellow-, Green-, or Pink-line rider and the physics should be nearly identical to those of a real CTA 5000-series train. The rolling stock used for the Brown and Orange lines is also custom-built, modeled after the CTA 3200-series railcars. Again, the sounds and physics behavior should be very familiar to any regular Brown- or Orange-line rider. Usage Information: The main CTA vehicles are driven like most standard Train Simulator vehicles. The controls are listed below. All CTA trains have a "track brake" which is a form of emergency brake, and this can be activated by holding the "E" button. CTA trains also have a safety feature called ATC, or Automatic Train Control. ATC ensures that the driver is following a safe speed but does not have direct control over the train. If you hear a high-pitched constant beep, ATC is regulating your speed and you are required to apply full brakes. It will then beep every four seconds until you are below the speed limit set by ATC. If you don't apply the brakes within 2.5 seconds, ATC will stop the train and you will have to apply full brakes before being allowed to move again. If you must pass an at-danger signal or move the train in another situation where the ATC restricted speed is 0, you can enable "Rule 6.4 mode" by pressing Ctrl+C. This mode restricts your max speed to 15 MPH and the system will sound a short reminder beep every 4 seconds while the train is moving. The term "Rule 6.4" is a reference to the CTA motorman's handbook section 6.4, which illustrates "operation on-sight" rules, such as when the cab signalling system is unable to be used. The 5000-series vehicles also feature what the CTA calls "ATO," or "Automatic Train Operation." This is a common term in the rail industry, however it normally implies fully automated control of the vehicle, whereas the CTA's ATO system does not actually control the vehicle. This feature is more of a cruise control feature. If you hold the throttle at 100%, the train will automatically coast once you reach the speed limit so that it does not accelerate past the speed limit, and will resume acceleration automatically once the speed limit increases without the driver needing to move the throttle. This feature can only be disabled by disabling the entire ATC system (Ctrl+D). Controls: W/S - Reverser Lever A/D - Throttle Lever E - Track Brake (hold) Note: disables CBTC when pressed Space - Horn (hold) J/Shift+J - LED Destination Sign/Class Lights U - Enable/Disable CBTC Ctrl+D - Enable/Disable ATC Ctrl+C - Enable/Disable Rule 6.4 mode (operation on-sight; max speed 15MPH; used to pass at-danger signals) Note: The train must be completely stopped to enable or disable ACT or R6.4 T - Open Doors Z - Turn 600V system on/off (complete power cutoff/shutdown) The APM400 vehicle drives like a normal train and does not have most of the features of the 5000-series, as it is meant to be driven in CBTC mode exclusively (but can be controlled manually if you desire). All of the vehicles (CTA and fictional) are equipped with Communications-Based Train Control (CBTC) which, on the new "CTA" route, will drive the train automatically obeying speed limits and stopping at all stations. Turn this on or off by pressing the "U" button. Note: the real CTA trains do not have this feature, and cannot operate automatically. This is simply a proof-of-concept for the simulator. Credits A big thanks goes out to Dovetail Games and their amazing simulator and content, and especially for their new developer documentation which helped me actually get this stuff in the game. Thanks also to the members of this awesome forum for providing information to make the project more accurate and enjoyable!
  13. 8 points
    Let me start by saying that Dave posted some very nice photos. Thanks for sharing them Next, this charter being discussed was my charter. It was a private charter for my close friends, fellow workers and myself who wanted one more ride on the 2200s thru out the city in a stress free enviroment. More often than not, on public trips / charters, one has to deal with constant noise, arrogant people and simply folks trying to run you over to get a picture that 50 other people are trying to get. Seeing the video and photos from the last cta run of these cars, that fact was evident. Plus on this site you see the constant fight amongst people and for what guys? Its nothing more than a train. 6000s, 2200s, SD70Ms... Who cares! Use this site for what it should be, discussion and information. This is why my charters are small and why these fine folks pay 100 bucks plus just to ride around in peace and quiet. At the end of Sunday, we all felt a little sad that the era of the 2200s had drawn to a close, but we all left with a smile as we all had a GREAT time. Eric
  14. 8 points
    So how about them Bears everybody? Haha.
  15. 8 points
    To have so much hate for this lady is just wrong. I mean Customer Service is Key. There are many bus drivers that shows up with the worst attitudes, and Darlene is making up for that. She don't have to be a SUCKHOLE or KISS uP, She is just probably excited to have a job in these hard times. It dosen't matter if she drove for 20 years.....Her Hard work and enthusiasm made her stand out. And no, She's not doing this for camera time, I ride with her alot, and yeah on the 82,145, and even the 151.
  16. 7 points
    Hi everyone - I've been lurking for a while but finally got the push to actually sign up and post! One of my goals for the year has been to build a webapp that might be marginally useful to people other than me, so I've created a very basic Busfinder. Busfinder allows you to input the bus ID (as shown painted on the buses and on the cta bus tracker). It will then put a pin on the map where the bus currently is. It's extremely barebones and sometimes buggy, but I wanted to get it out sooner rather than later. I figured that with the electric pilots (700, 701) and the holiday bus (4335) this might be something that people here might like. It's actually probably the same as the official holiday bus tracker, but extended to let you look up other buses too. This is the first things i've develoepd end to end, so please let me know what you think. http://busfinder.byronasaurus.com/
  17. 7 points
    I think I need to add a new line to the Community Guidelines: Anyone who posts April Fools Day jokes will be immediately and permanently banned.
  18. 7 points
    All, While I was browsing the web yesterday, I came across this site, http://irm-cta.org. It contains a wealth of information such as old bus/rail schedules, bus/rail equipment assignments and a whole lot of other information that would be useful. Even better, pretty much all of the documents are in .pdf form also. Check it out.
  19. 7 points
    I was on the 22 Clark bus and I saw #700 as a training bus on Clark/Birchwood
  20. 7 points
    Hey guys, can we keep it down a notch about the 5000s deliveries. Kevin already talked about this recently. I cannot stress this enough. We don't want members and guests to be discouraged (that wouldn't be a good sign). Right now, our primary focus is the rest of them being delivered and assigned not jumping at each other throats about it. Any information and updates with appropriate verification is considered. It's a fair warning to everybody. Please, let's not take matters into our own hands that leads to disaster. Thanks.
  21. 7 points
    I'm glad you guys like the site. I started it a year and a half or two years ago, inspired by Graham's outstanding Chicago-L.org site for Rapid Transit. What I couldn't find is much on the web for the Surface System. Working with what I had amassed over the years, Bob Heinlein, Bill Wulfert, IRM's Strahorn Library, what was in the Motor Bus & Trolley Bus Department collections, and things that so many people had donated to IRM over the past several years, I started to put together irm-cta.org. There was so much interesting stuff, it was not doing anyone any good just sitting in boxes. So hey, why not scan it, put it on the web, let everyone enjoy the items, and get the museum more exposure. Due to my real job, it has been a few months since I last added to the site, but I hope to get back into it very shortly. We are working feverishly, scanning as many items as we can - thanks for your patience - new updates are coming very soon! And thanks to Andrethebusman for his help in the transfer section!!!
  22. 7 points
    I just saw 3 8100's at South Shops. One of them was numbered 8102.
  23. 7 points
    Welcome #8000, #8001, #8002, #8003, and #8004!!!
  24. 7 points
    #4333 @ the back of the yard. I used my binoculars to get a clear shot and it wasn't easy at all.
  25. 7 points
    Hello everyone. I've been a long time lurker here and for numerous reasons never joined in on the fun but I've just moved back to Chicago a couple months ago a figured why not get involved. So yeah... Hi. Yesterday was really something. Found myself affected by both fires during my commute and ultimately trapped on LSD for a VERY long time on a 148. By the time I arrived on scene what was left of 4333 had been dragged from the fire scene onto Michigan Ave. I assumed it was to get it out of the way to wait on a low boy trailer or something but it appears they were setting it up for a standard tow. When I rode by they had already put new wheels and tires on and were probably doing an inspection to make sure it could structurally hold up to the trip. Anyways I'll try and add a few pictures. Probably nothing new except for the new tires don't know if I've seen that on here yet.
  26. 7 points
    This was put out the day before the buses were placed in service. If the buses still are operating on the listed runs, maybe someone at Kedzie can supply the actual times. G46-14 New Flyer Electric Bus Pilot - Kedzie.pdf
  27. 7 points
    Congrats to CTA5750 on finishing the Chicago Marathon. Good Job !!!
  28. 7 points
    I did actually drive L trains 1977-82, so this is from experience. Flat wheels on the equipment I worked with (6000's thru 2400's) were all caused by a single reason - sliding the wheels. L cars series 2000 to 2600 have four rates of braking, ranging from rather light (P1) to maximum (P4). Unfortunately, CTA practice has been for years to apply brakes at the last possible second to avoid overrunning the station. This means using P4 at each stop. Now, the problem is that in P4 under anything less than ideal conditions (wet rail, snow, salt spray), there is enough pressure being exerted on the disc brake that if the wheels lose their grip on the rail, the brakes will lock up that axle, and cause the wheel to skid. One skidding stop is all it takes and you have a flat spot. 6000's were not given to these problems simply because maximum braking on a 6000 was just not strong enough to lock up an axle, but the newer cars have a lot more braking force and can easily do so. The problem was that once your train is sliding, the only thing you can do is release the brakes, and go to coast until the wheels catch the rail again, when you can start braking again. But if you have not left yourself enough room to do this, the only thing you can do to avoid rolling thru the station is to let it slide, and stop by slamming down the track brakes. So now not only are you flattening wheels, but also grinding rail. This is why especially on the Ryan, where road salt forms a slippery surface on the railhead, rail at stations had to be replaced about every 10 years. while between stations lasted from 1969 until the general rebuilding a couple of years ago.
  29. 7 points
    Interior and exterior photos of CTA 700 Photos by Bruce Moffat
  30. 7 points
    Got a distant picture at Adams/Wabash for ya:
  31. 7 points
    Bus 7900 came by 567 today (as stated above), briefly, so that Planning could see it. Per Engineering people on board, the next bus (7901), also considered a prototype but part of the 300 bus order, is due around April 9th. The deliveries of the following 48 buses would be in late April/ early May. Then after 8 weeks or so, the next 50 would come in, and so on in groups of 50 until all are here.
  32. 7 points
    I almost equate this to the time when you would have the X services, and people would flip out because the driver wouldn't let them off on a side street. Same as the the Brown/Purple fiasco: You see "loop" but you don't pay attention to the color. Bottom line is that people don't pay attention--this is universal and not limited to one side of the city. This might be a good time to at least change the sign codes to reflect the changes, but to also educate the potential changes that would happen to that route. Placement of that bus at the terminal will definitely need to be addressed.
  33. 7 points
    Oh give me a break man. How about you take your own advice and read back to the number of folks on the forum who said that they found sw's posts in the thread useful to varying degrees. I mean really. A bit too cynical much? My point was was and is now you already established you didn't see the point to his posts while others disagreed with you. So as I said why waste time taking pock shots at the guy's thread when he's continuing for those aforementioned forum members who said they found the thread useful? Or do you want to continue edging closer to being guilty of what you sparred with chicagopplcar of doing against you? Just saying....
  34. 7 points
    Here's my .02 cents worth... This Operator was most likely recommended to Hilkevitch(Busjacks favorite reporter ) probably through compliments from her customers through 1-888-YOUR-CTA. Being a Public Servant myself, it really makes my day when a Customer says something nice about me to a Supervisor. I still wear my #1 Service pin that I got a few years ago from when a Customer called my Store Mgr. and made a compliment about me to him(and there are plenty of other cashiers with more experience then me). If I see a Bus Operator go out of his/her way to do something nice for passengers, I'll call and make a compliment to the CTA Operator, because I know what kinda stuff they have to put up with on a daily basis. The only difference is my venue is a cash register, theirs is a seat behind the wheel of a 35, 40, or 60-Foot Bus. Bottom Line: If you do your job satifactorily, nothing comes of it. If you do it above expectations, you'll get some merit, like this Operator did. It doesn't matter if you've been with your company 1 year, 5 years, or 45 years.
  35. 7 points
    The operator got a write up in the paper so what. Why she did or didn't get laid off is really nobodys business. Ask yourself how is she affecting your paycheck and your job. To be perfectly frank we're all suck holes at one time or another, stop hating on someone who has done nothing to you personally, and get on with your life.
  36. 6 points
  37. 6 points
    Just a guess... If you have time, take a look at CTA roll signs for sale on eBay, past and present. In most cases, there's a barcode printed on the side of the roll sign that scrolls along with the destination. During normal operation, the train operator uses the two destination knobs in the cab to select a destination. A scanner of some sort picks up what sign is being displayed by the barcode. If the barcode that is being scanned matches the selection, the motors that change the destination stop moving and all is good. In some cases dirt or other crud gets stuck on the barcode and that's what causes some to behave erratically (may be why some destination signs are blank). However, there are other cases of undesired moving signs: I remember @briman94 discovering that the roll signs on the 3200s move when some operators use abnormal methods to override the ATC penalties without use of the ATC bypass mode. The signs would move out of place, and then move back to their normal position (Kimball or Loop). On some 2400s, getting temporarily gapped at railroad crossings (like on the Purple and Yellow Lines) would cause the roll sign units to start scrolling in a direction (I'm not sure if it's the same direction every time). After the train contacted the third rail again, the signs would scroll back to their selected position. I have personally witnessed this on the Skokie Swift, and there is a video of a Purple Line set of 2400s exhibiting this behavior.
  38. 6 points
    Oh man, you in it for a real treat @BusHunter!!! #8240 #8241 #8242 #8243 #8244 #8247 #8248 #8250 #8251 and #8252 have arrived!!!! Also, bonus shots of the actual engine without the mesh and #8252's decals on the left!!!!
  39. 6 points
  40. 6 points
    Shots of 8182. Sorry they're my first shots lol
  41. 6 points
    Can we at least let the express routes have their first day of service first before predicting their doom? Sheesh. From experience, a larger part of what slowed Ashland buses down was more having to stop at practically every freaking block than it was traffic slowdowns. That's suggested in the local routes stopping every two blocks now instead of every single standard block. I for one, am looking forward to the X9's return tomorrow morning and only have to worry about the bus needing to contend with service stops at every half mile instead of the prior one-eight mile between service stops.
  42. 6 points
    I was on a southbound Red Line today, and happened to be on car 5648, one of the ones spotted on the Orange Line. Sure enough, it even had the Orange Line map instead of the Red Line map! I'd find it very strange if they changed the map for a charter run... It was like this on all cars in the consist that I could see. Was in a rush and didn't get the rest of the car numbers or run number, unfortunately.
  43. 6 points
    I am currently riding on 5679 on the Red Line so it looks like the remaining cars are coming to the Red Line.
  44. 6 points
    I have created a website which shows which 7900 series buses are currently in service, and which routes each of them are on. It updates every 10 minutes with the latest data from the CTA's Bus Tracker. Please let me know what you think. https://maths22.com/cta/
  45. 6 points
  46. 6 points
    Remaining NF's that are not FULLY rehabbed yet including mechanically rehabbed NF's as of 8/25/15: (Updated @ 10:30 AM) Forest Glen None North Park #1684 #1883 (2 Remaining) (0 @ South Shop) (2 Mechanically Rehabbed) Chicago #1005 #1940 (3 Remaining) (1 @ South Shop) (0 Mechanically Rehabbed) Kedzie #1430 #1433 #1438 #1455 #1632 (5 Remaining) (0 @ South Shop) (5 Mechanically Rehabbed) 74th None 77th #1076 #1093 #1099 #1202 #1226 #1246 #1288 #1289 #1476 #1482 #1546 #1560 #1563 #1571 #1590 #1591 (16 Remaining) (1 @ South Shop) (15 Mechanically Rehabbed) 103rd #1018 #1111 #1125 #1257 #1262 #1277 #1279 #1502 #1531 #1612 #1616 #1617 (12 Remaining) (0 @ South Shop) (12 Mechanically Rehabbed) Retired #1305 #1553 Legend BLACK: In Service PINK: Mechanically Rehabbed BROWN: Rehabbed Engine RED: Retired BLUE: South Shop GOLD: South Shop - Update Rehab Process GREEN: South Shop - In Rehab Process ORANGE: South Shop - Out of Service - Awaiting Revision of Service Total = (37 Remaining) (24 Remaining including 22 unknown inside South Shop) (34 Mechanically Rehabbed)
  47. 6 points
    Seriously you really need to chill out for now and see how things unfold because now you're beginning to contradict yourself. First you're saying you bet FG is placed last on the list for 7900s, and now you griping that you don't see them getting any. Which one is it? They're either last on the list for 7900s or they'll get old "beat up" Novas and New Flyers. You can't have it both ways sir. (And with CTA pumping a few hundred million bucks into New Flyer rebuilds, one should hope that none of them better be beat up). They've only been delivering to one garage so far. NONE of us knows who's going to get 7900s next. As Art points out 77th might only have them to shake out any faults given the South Shops heavy maintenance facility is on the same property as the garage. There is in fact a history for this. Some lower numbered Americanas were assigned there before being assigned to Kedzie, and what Americanas were assigned at 103rd had previously been at 77th during the final couple of years of Beverly Garage's existence. Some of the lower 4400s were there before going to North Park and 77th getting upper 4700s and the 4800s. Whatever the case though, you or anyone else can't just assume at this stage with only one garage having 7900s so far that FG isn't going to get any. For all any of us know, Chicago or 74th might not get any. So chill out dude.
  48. 6 points
    Since the subject has been brought up, I think it deserves its own title. Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:06 PM I would have corrected you but you don't read my posts, right. The Smithsonian was only interested in the 6719 because that car had the conductor position. The conductor is used in their animation projection. Plus they did not have room for a second car in their exhibit. 6720 was scrapped along with another 5-50. You can refer to ChicagoL.org to find out how I have this information. "This post is hidden because Busjack has chosen to ignore posts by chicagopcclcar. View it anyway?" Adt. Edit.....6201 through 6470 had conductor cabs at the car end opposite the motorman cab. 6471 through 6720 had a conductor position in the odd numbered car of the married pair. A drop window was on both sides, door controls were in the walls and a railing separated the conductor position from the passenger area. The conductor operated from the third or fourth car (except two car trains). This arrangement continued in all subsequent CTA car orders until the 3200 MK cars with the full width cab. When operated on the Ravenswood (Brown line) the conductors operated from the last cab in the sixth car. Here is a photo I took at the Smithsonian a year or two ago. CTA 6719 is mounted on a hidden substructure. The trucks and all the underbody appliances were removed. The station platform is not as elaborate as the station in the South Side Car #1 exhibit at the Chicago History Museum. The Smithsonian curator simply loved the Madison-Wabash CTA station, but that of course, was unavailable as it is still in use. That is a full-sized mannequin on the platform about to board the train. http://s155.photobucket.com/user/msibnsf/media/P1060434.jpg.html?sort=6&o=315 This photo shows the interior of the car looking back from the cab end. A holographic projection screen fills the entire conductors' end and we see passengers boarding and alighting and listen in on their conversations and exchanges while hearing the conductor's station announcements. The frosted windows on the left side of the car photo right) conceal lighting effects which give some feeling of movement as the train rounds the famed Chicago Loop 'L'. http://s155.photobucket.com/user/msibnsf/media/P1060448.jpg.html?sort=6&o=313 The third photo is from the platform, but taken at the opposite end showing how the blinker doors were removed making for an ADA "accessible" entrance to the car. Around the corner from this end of the station is a make believe CTA bus from that time period on display. Only the bus front is shown. The bus is from Kansas City (Adt. Edit: Or maybe Omaha??), so that's why I say "make believe." http://s155.photobucket.com/user/msibnsf/media/P1060439.jpg.html?sort=6&o=314 My very first vist to the Smithsonian came before this transit exhibit even opened. The curator was interested in an appliance in the motormans' cab and she seemed surprised that my MUDC key opened the cab door. I then explained to her the workings of the sleet scraper handle. On my latest visit, the same curator told me that the car was suffering a rodent infestation that they were trying to get a "handle" on, LOL. Back in 1998, the CTA had advertised in the classified ads that they were having the sale of unneeded equipment and supply stores. Scrap metal prices were at the bottom of the barrel then. There were 47 cars available, mostly 5-50s and the 61-65 Skokie conversions, plus a couple of hulks from storage shops, the two married pairs and the two 2000s. Aside from complete running cars for museums, the most valuable thing were the PCC trucks. Fox, IRM, East Troy, St. Louis, Appleton-WS, and an Ontario-Canada museums, plus myself, all bid and won cars. The CTA shop forces had done something that no one could understand.....of the 47 cars, they had cut the brake actuators on 31 of the cars. To a museum, thats like buying gelded horses for breeding. The CTA agreed to swap trucks if needed on any museum purchased cars. The company from Pennsylvania that owns the Norristown CTA cars won six in the sale and mainly they were wanting the trucks. There are CTA trucks presently under streetcars running today. William Lans of South Beloit won the rest of the cars for scrapping. The most expensive car was #48 that went to the Ontario museum....$2,476.51. The Pennsylvania bids were $2,512 each. The Appleton car was $1,500 while the Fox Valley car was $763.63. IRM bid $700 each for the 2000s, but indicated they were only interested in the cars for parts and deferred their bid to the Pullman Historic group, if that group could build a historic park and display the two Pullman cars. We now know if would take all the way to 2013 to close that deal. I won 6719 and 6720 for $451 each. Eventually the CTA refunded my money and resold my cars, three to museums and two were scrapped. It was a bitter experience.
  49. 6 points
    That's up to the passenger/customer. Odds are few passengers know how much experience their bus operator has, just like few grocery store customers know how long their cashier has been on the job. All they know is the service they received that day (and, perhaps, past days if they recognize that employee). What that employee went through with the previous customer, or on yesterday's shift, or last year, does not matter to the customer that he/she is facing at the moment. One common theme I have noted in my experience talking to operators (bus and train, CTA and elsewhere, local transit and intercity travel) is that many (not all, but many) forget what it's like to see things from the customer's perspective. This assumes, of course, that they ever were on the customer side (there are plenty of bus operators who would never ride for their own travel). As a result, they often misinterpret what their customers' needs and priorities are. It's also true that passengers themselves may not realize what their priorities are. A safe trip from origin to destination is clearly the #1 priority, but it's also something that most passengers take for granted. Like it or not, for better or worse, most people won't call in just to say that they boarded their bus on time and got to their destination safely. I know that you take safety very seriously, given that you have two jobs where safety has the highest importance, but the fact is that most people won't notice a "safe" driver. If the driver is unsafe, you can bet someone is going to notice, though. So, if you want to define "satisfactory" or "above expectations," you have to ask the passenger what their expectations are. You can't assume you know what a passenger wants, and then complain when someone else gets recognized for actually giving passengers the service they want. To you, experience matters. Maybe, just maybe, to the passengers riding the bus, the operator's length of service isn't the most important thing they're concerned with.
  50. 6 points
    I'm quite confused as to why a fellow bus driver is so upset over the publicity given to this woman. It shows in your profile that you are also a fireman, so you are very familiar with public service. You must do your job well, seeing that lives are in your hands everyday. You also posted that you worked for the CTA before PACE. I've looked at many of your posts in the past, and they are always helpful whether answering a members question or just general knowledge of the CTA. I just dont get it, I find it hard to believe that its jealousy as someone implied. Or maybe the layoff situation is the key to this????
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