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  1. 6 points
    Cermak (22nd Street) was originally #22 in the original scheme. 21 was Fulton/21st. Clark/Wentworth was Thru-Route 22, which was a different series, and local Clark and Wentworth cars were considered 2, This was soon seen as a problem. So Cermak became 21, Clark/Wentworth kept 22, and Fulton/21st was renumbered 15, which had been its old Thru-route number. This is also why Canal-Wacker bus became 15, as it partially replced the Fulton/21st carline.
  2. 6 points
    The low 7900's that went back to 77th is not even true lol. 1st its only 2 buses we got from 77th which are 7903-04. Which are both at 103rd. All garages have rehabbed 1000 series so I don't see the unfairness there neither unless you wanna mention them having the oldest nf but so does my garage but still irrelevant cause they're all rehabbed. I was the 1 who said FG might lose their Novas in exchange for flyers but that doesn't mean it's going to happen lol. I have my reasons as to why I said it but I wont speak on it to just to avoid the back and forth. But currently as I said more than a few times at this point, FG still has 89 new novas so why are you guys still upset? I get the 6400's are still there but they're also on the way out. It's a reason FG have the fleet they have. You a former Operator I'm assuming from that garage so you know just as well as I do how different things are from the North and South side of the city. Kedzie and NP dont have Novas at all but you dont hear anybody on their behalf upset like you and Bus Hunter. Bus Hunter dont even ride public transit so I definitely dont see his reasons lol. He mad about the "lack of new buses" when he riding past people at the bus stop in his personal vehicle πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ˜„πŸ˜„ come on. Its Novas all across the city now. I feel all garages should get 60 a piece but since that's not the case as of yet FG still have 89 in comparison to our lil 20 so yea.
  3. 6 points
    Where did I swing at you? I didn't. No insults, name calling, personal shots. I ve respected your opinions which I ve stated which ones I agreed and disagreed. Bottom line is CTA will do as they please and our opinions don't matter. As long as I have decent bus service in my neighborhood, I won't complain about old buses serving my neighborhood. Last thing is when you speak, whether verbal or written, you should expect a response to your statement. If you want your opinions respected, respect others. Disagreement is not swinging at you.
  4. 6 points
    Here are shots of 8337 working Belmont and 8341 working Addison
  5. 6 points
    GUYS!!! Just caught #8347 on the #76!!!! A rare catch! The 8325s are now in service!
  6. 5 points
    @Mr.cta85 I was actually just in the process of typing this when I saw your post. I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking of Busjack today. It has now been six months since Busjack last posted on here, so I feel this tribute is in order. Busjack was a pillar of the community since the very beginning of this forum in 2005. He authored over 20,000 posts, which is nearly 20% of the posts on this site to date. Almost everyone here had some interaction with him, as it was rare to find a discussion that he wouldn’t participate in. His expertise, sense of humor, and attention to the goings-on at CTA, Metra, and Pace drove many of the discussions here. Whenever a legal question would arise, he could be relied upon to provide the answer. Although we often disagreed, Busjack influenced my perspective and broadened my knowledge on many topics. Thank you, @Busjack. I sincerely hope you are doing well.
  7. 5 points
    Exactly. What 5750 is refusing to acknowledge is the fact that while FG has their fair share of busy routes, outside of Milwaukee their service being dedicated towards north and northwest service means they put less wear and tear per mile compared to the other garages that all do downtown service which means more costly deadheads especially for routes with peak heavy demand and end up pushing up and down the Kennedy, Dan Ryan and Lake shore constantly. Therefore the current fleet allotments make sense. Same thing for the artic assignments. Kedzie has mainly peak only demand for artics outside of 151 and 12 on weekends and therefore have the oldest artics
  8. 5 points
    There's a nice feature called "search for" on google maps........Blue Island and 23rd Street/Paulina
  9. 5 points
    Let's do some math. There are 450 7900 series Novas split among 5 garages. Split evenly, each garage would have 90 of those buses. We know this: 103rd has 20 77th has 98 74th has 100 FG has 89 C has 143 With the exception of 103rd being way below average and C being way above average, the other garages are near the average allotment. Based on those numbers, no one can reasonably say FG got shafted (103rd only has 20).
  10. 5 points
    I'm not whining about anything. YOU are! FG has 89 new Novas and you're still not happy. Not only are you not happy about FG having 89 new Novas, YOU are constantly whining about what's on the South and West Sides. You can't say this is political because Rahm isn't running for reelection and this move happened just before election day. Without directly saying it, you are expressing your opinion, feelings, that CTA (by extension the Mayor's Office) caters to the predominately Black residents of the South and West Sides for political votes. Your posts concerning the 5000s further prove that point. I've never disagreed with you that 8200 - 8349 ALL should be at FG and CTA should be making a concerted effort to get as many 6400s off the street as it can. But I'm tired of reminding you that during the '70s, '80s, '90s, and the 6000s at 74th in the 2000s, it wasSouth Side garages getting the shaft. Every garage has some old equipment sometimes. Even NP, which seemingly has the best equipment, was the last garage to retire the MAN Americanas and the 7000 and 7100 and 7300 series MAN artics. They were pretty much the last to retire the 4400s. So please relax! The 6400s will eventually be gone.
  11. 5 points
    Perception is everything. Back in 1982 when I was living in New York, the newest buses were brand-new RTS's with hard plastic seats. One day instead we got an elderly 1964 fishbowl that had upholstered seats as it had been a Staten Island Express bus, but had now been degraded to an unassigned "shop spare". Now most people by then in New York had never seen a bus with upholstered seats, and two behind me were saying how nice it was to get a new bus with such nice seats. Most people have no concept as to how old a bus they are getting on is. A more comfortable but much older bus is seen as an improvement.
  12. 5 points
    I doubt that the vast majority of riders is at all concerned about the age of the buses. Even with the most elderly equipment in the system, the operators and technicians at FG still manage to provide a safe, reliable ride from Point A to Point B. I think that's all that matters. Seems to me that Artthouwill, Sam92, and Mr.cta85 have all offered convincing reasons why things are as they are. Incidentally, I'm a North Sider and a onetime CTA bus pilot: 1969-76, FG and NP. BusHunter and CTA 5750, I understand your feelings, too, but like I said, I don't think that most riders really care.
  13. 5 points
    That's for the mods to tell me not you.
  14. 5 points
    The situation has been reversed. That is the part you are in denial about. Other posters and I have pointed out the history that you choose to ignore. It's okay for other garages but not FG, even though to this point, the newest buses are at FG.
  15. 5 points
    Whenever those who put the hard work to maintain them get time from stuff like jobs and everyday family life. Though you're welcome to start one up too if the update happening soon is important enough for ya.
  16. 5 points
    That's all that's needed.... just the link, not the whole "search and find" rapport. I've been away on a live feed for quite some time, hence my long period of absence. And I've learned on that feed that working with the Moderators and various people who stop to chat that working together and helping when someone asks a question or is unsure makes a happier, more productive chat(or in this case, forum). We would post links and direct them to the links that were available when needed rather than just say "find it yourself". Being helpful to the follow chatter(or in this case, poster) goes a long way. Let's work together and help each other!
  17. 4 points
    @NewFlyerMCI @Mr.cta85 I found them... I managed to catch the accountant for Speedy Gonzales Landscaping and he said the owners were planning to sell them for scrap. Maybe I'll try and speak to the owners themselves at some point.
  18. 4 points
    Took a ride on Route 603 to Elgin on Friday and photographed Pace 2738 at the Elgin Transportation Center.
  19. 4 points
    Here we go with this again πŸ™„πŸ™„
  20. 4 points
    It's not that one time. He appears to be stoned much of the time & not just weed.
  21. 4 points
  22. 4 points
    Let the fun begin Pace Heritage – 2764 JMTD Pace Fox Valley – 2614 Aurora Pace North Shore – 2656 Wilbus Pace Northwest – 2775 United Motor Coach Pace North – 6770 Waukegan Pace South – 15500 South Suburban Safeway Pace Southwest – 2825 Suburban Transit Fleet
  23. 4 points
    Certainly hope all is well with him. He used to be on some other transit forums, but I don't know if that is still the case. It did appear that he was tiring of speculation and ",fantasy" route proposals on this forum as well as some heated debates with a few members here. Hopefully he is well and just stepped away from here for a short period.
  24. 4 points
    There was never room to say NW got stiffed to begin with. 74th was all 6000's for a good while, Kedzie has oldest artics and middle flyers, 103rd got hit with the oldest NF after rehab so every part of the city gets shafted in someway if we wanna keep nitpicking. A Novas a Nova The Glen finally got some let it rest. With no heavy downtown routes and light midday and weekends service wise the old Nova's are getting plenty rest and time. 103rd maintenance couldn't keep up with 6400s compared to FG. notice up till a few years ago they used to borrow like crazy from 77th?
  25. 4 points
    It is the NORTH Side. Last I checked the 8, 9 and 49 are served by South Side garages and the 53 and 54 are covered by a West Side garage.
  26. 4 points
    Last time I checked, the South Side is much bigger than the Northwest Side. The north side equivalent would include Evanston and Wilmette. Remember, the South Side has THREE garages. Two of those three have routes that serve the NORTH side of the city. Of the two West Side garages, only C has Novas and it has routes serving the North Side. You are walking a very fine line with your insinuations. Be careful.
  27. 4 points
    https://flic.kr/s/aHsjyuwukc If anyone is interested, here is a link to my CTA Flickr album. Admin, if not allowed please delete.
  28. 4 points
    Welp. We've deviated a bit from the topic. I'm going to lock this topic for a few days until cooler heads prevail.
  29. 4 points
    Also if you do your research all TA's tend to stick older equipment at garages with light service requirements this isnt just a cta thing
  30. 4 points
    You're insulting your own intelligence. You say you were at FG since 1980 something and there's plenty of PROVEN examples of that go against your "NW side is ignored" facts. 74th had all 6000's as recent as 2006. Red line south was essentially built with crappy trackbed that didnt get addressed till 201e, blue line literally CANT take 5000's so debunk these PROVEN facts with your own credible proof or just give it up. Youre starting to just sound bitter. You can always get a one day and ride south or in Chicago garage territory if not being on a 7900 hurts that much
  31. 4 points
  32. 4 points
    Looks like they're ditching hopper windows. Pax windows are one piece.
  33. 4 points
  34. 4 points
    Not only is LACMTA route 605 2,000 west of Michigan Avenue, service to Olympic and Atlantic was curtailed. According to the schedule effective June, 2018 the route now ends at Olympic and Grande Vista.
  35. 4 points
    Caught #4136 on Michigan today displaying "605 OLYMPIC-/ATLANTIC" which is a Los Angeles local bus route.
  36. 4 points
    Power issues are one of the main reasons why CTA can't run a large number of 5000s on the Blue, and fleet commonality between lines is another reason. CTA won't run different series of cars on Red/Purple/Yellow or Pink/Green just to please Blue Line riders; they want the flexibility to swap the cars between those lines. Also, the 5000s running on the Blue are still technically assigned to the Pink Line and are operated by Pink Line crews, so commonality with the 3200s isn't much of a problem right now. It seems like some Blue Line riders remind me of those in NYC who complained about losing their R142A cars on the (6) train. Blue Line riders are not entitled to the newest equipment any more than riders of other lines.
  37. 4 points
    Let's see. The Red Line South was in total disrepair and needed to be rebuilt, in part, because it was affecting North Side service as well. It also had a bunch of 2600s. But I suppose you think the south Siders should've kept them. The Green Line reopened in 1996 with ALL 2400s, which were the 2nd oldest cars in the fleet at that time, behind only the 2200s. Before the shutdown, the Green Line was saddled with the 2000s,which were even older than the 2200s. I suppose the West Siders shouldn't have new equipment either. The Brown Line was still running 6000s before retirement. Are Brown Line riders not entitled to newer equipment? Remember both the Brown and Orange were also passed over for 5000s. Add in the fact the Orange Line lost all of their 3200s to your Blue Line. But I guess it's okay for the southwestsiders to have them. The entire CTA system was dilapidated. With limited resource CTA has had to prioritize which projects were most urgent. While the Blue LineO'Hare branch did get some work, other lines needed the most attention, period. Now it's time for the Blue to get the attention.
  38. 4 points
    Replacing 100 pretty unreliable cars with 100 much more reliable ones improves things. Orange service is less stressful on equipment than Blue. In all everybody seems to come out ok.
  39. 4 points
    Yeah I'm totally tripping over here in Oak Park. Two straight 8 car sets of 3200s just passed me up. First consist I only saw #3219-20 cause I was driving the expy. They passed me on the forest pk branch at kedzie and pulaski they are inbound. I couldn't get runs but the 2nd was 213. Second consist had all #3250's in it. Those are from brown no? Look like the 3200s block is going to blue. The cars look so new and good they look like 5000s. I was completely tripping. Finally blue line has some newer equipment. Hallaluyah Hallaluyah Hallaluyah!!!! LOL!!
  40. 4 points
    It’s official! 3207/08 - 3221/22 - 3245/46 - 3249/50 - 3251/52 - 3257/58 - 3259/60 - 3279/80 are part of the Blue Line fleet @BusHunter
  41. 4 points
    3219/20 - 3411/12 - 3233/34 - 3212/11 have arrived at Forest Park from Midway as of 2AM.
  42. 4 points
    I hear Forest Glen is getting electric buses, too! I'm sorry. Sometimes I can't help myself.
  43. 3 points
    I agree, its embarrassingly bad. Instead of trying to make a modern bus look vintage, they should have adapted these liveries to fit on a modern bus. If this is the route they are taking, I'm not looking forward to the others... Here is a rendering of a West Towns ElDorado that I made during my free time. (I based it off 776) Its a very simple livery, I'm curious to see how Pace will botch it.
  44. 3 points
    Hasn't returned under his username for about a month and some change. I've always appreciated his wealth of knowledge and sharp wit, I just wish he'd been a bit less abrasive for lack of a better term. PM him and see if he'll respond.
  45. 3 points
    How did it get the short end when it has new Novas? Just cause they aren't the highest numbered? Come on y'all been complaining for years now you got second gen Novas it's STILL not enough πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Technically with the oldest 4000's and only middle range flyers Kedzie kinda seems a bit shafted. Plus no one said FG was lowest ridership it's more rush hour heavy which is perfect for an old fleet seeing as they get a lot of rest off peak and weekends. The same logic that was a applied for why purple shouldn't have 5000
  46. 3 points
    I agree only to the extent it didnt make sense to split the 8325s for the exact same reason I have said the 6400s should stay at one garage. Either FG should have all of the 8325s, and they should've had them all, or give them all to 103rd. The 6400s make FG the garage with the oldest fleet and 103rd is second oldest. C and NP have the youngest fleets. Pace West ha2003 and 2005s running still and they are half of W's fleet, while NW, SW, S, and maybe N and NS are all newer Eldorado Axxess. Whenever Pace gets around to it, I'm sure they will replace those old buses. CTA will eventually do the same.
  47. 3 points
    No reason to doubt Mrcta85's employment at CTA. How fortunate is he to be a transit fan AND work for the agency. Same goes for Garmon757. I actually saw one member driving a Pace bus. Appreciate the nuggets we get from those on the inside. You dismissing mrcta's employment to try to get @Busjack is petty, especially since you've never questioned it before. The point is you claimed the last batch of 1000 series New Flyers were delivered to 103rd but never went in service there. An employee who works there never reported any such sightings. I know 1929 through 1977 odds were new in service at 77th and the evens were new to NP. The bus 1978 and above were new to C I actually rode those buses new from each named garage. But getting back on track. 103rd has been running Novas during the day. Maybe next month we will see where the 8325s actually go.
  48. 3 points
    Hmm... Guess we just have to wait and see.
  49. 3 points
    You could do a lot of things, but it doesn't mean it makes sense to do it just to cover one school tripper with an artic. Those school trippers with artics end their routes somewhat close to downtown so it is a short deadhead to start their assigned route. That wouldn't be the case in your scenario. You also have to factor in driver hours of pay, fuel, and vehicle utilization. The artics are primarily for LSD routes. The only way your scenario works is if the same artic used for your Taft tripper is used on the current artic tripper on the 56, assuming time allows it to be effectively used on both. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense.
  50. 3 points
    But since you can't try not to nitpick the guy who's doing all the work πŸ™„πŸ™„
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