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rotjohns last won the day on October 9 2019

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  1. There's only a handful of 2600s in rotation now. And 2826-2829 aren't leaving anytime soon, one of them just got a bus wrap. You don't wrap a bus if it's retiring. The 20300s will be sporatic until spring before we see a full fledged retirement or movement of any 2600s.
  2. Oh I didn't know, it had been a minute since I looked at the South Suburb routes on Webwatch so I didn't realize those were out there.
  3. I just passed a Joliet bus #2755 and it's got paint peeling and rust spots. So those 20300s are probably going to be moving in quickly on the other locations once Fox Valley is taken care of.
  4. Got news for you...20500 is on Route 364 right now. UPDATE: Several 20500s are in the south suburbs right now per Webwatch. So either they are testing them there first and then move to Wheeling or they are staying at Markham and maybe 15500s are on the move?
  5. For now they are, UNLESS they take those feeder buses and send them there to retire them also. They've been around since 2008-2009 so they're about to hit that retirement age too and although I haven't seen Elgin buses lately, Joliet's buses have probably been running heavy too, especially on the 834, it's longest route by far.
  6. It's definitely time for the early 2600s at Fox Valley to go. If they replace 2605-2629, that's 25 buses so 2 of them would end up staying unless Pace just cuts them all since several routes have been cut due to COVID. That would leave the higher 2600s, 2700, 2701, 2704-2706, and 2826-2829 (all of which have seen heavy rotation in recent months) for at least the first few months of 2021.
  7. FV buses 2605-2629 are definitely showing their age, I've seen a lot of 2700, 01, 04-06 lately. 2676 has also been out a lot, it was sidelined for months and just recently came back to service. I'm sure Joliet and Elgin buses probably are tired too. But with so many buses on the sidelines because of COVID from Naperville, Westmont, and the north suburbs, I'm shocked they are not replacing them right now until newer buses come, whenever that ends up being.
  8. That 30 foot order is probably dead. Even the early 2600s in Aurora can be easily replaced with Naperville or Westmont feeders, or even some 30 footers from SW. Pace is probably done buying buses right now, the Eldos are the oldest in the fleet now, the next oldest are the 6323s.
  9. So passed by First Student Westmont today and all of the El Dorado 30 footers are gone. These are the feeder route buses. Anybody know something?
  10. So looking at BusTracker at this moment, there are no 2003 NABIs out (as of 1:17 pm) at West. Since Pace is mostly on a Saturday or Sunday schedule, I doubt too many more buses will be out today. There's only a handful of 2006 NABIs out in service. Truthfully, I'm a little surprised they are even out because there's not many 6323s out today either. Today is being dominated by NFs. Since NFs are up to 20444 right now, I have a feeling some of the 6323s are getting some much needed refreshes. They've been used a lot since the Orions were taken out a few years ago.
  11. Instead of updating all of these changes, wouldn't it make sense to just follow Pace Tracker or physical human eyes and go that route? Seems like there's too many inconsistencies to keep all the buses current. Whatever is out per the tracker, that's what you go by until we have concrete confirmation that buses are retired. That's how it was done with the Orions a few years ago, matter of fact there used to be someone on here that would provide the official roster sheet, but I'm guessing that person is no longer active on here.
  12. And if the routes that were temporarily cut due to the pandemic do not come back anytime soon, that retirement will likely be accelerated.
  13. So interesting note to pay attention to: Route 825, a feeder route in Bolingbrook to Lisle Metra Station, had all of it's outside bus signs marked off with a black marker all along the Bolingbrook route. I've seen no other Pace feeder routes in the West/SW suburbs like this. Considering this is the last Bolingbrook route that survived the cuts and riders appear to be utilizing the I-55 routes more frequently from both Park-N-Ride stations because it's quicker to get downtown, is this route in trouble?
  14. Honestly, there are 2 scenarios that affect all of this: 1. The pandemic has forced a lot of the NW and SW 2700s to shut down as well as the feeder routes because they only have front door entry so that wipes out social distancing with the driver, even with the plastic barricade. 2. It depends on the pending order to replace all of the 2600s period, especially in Aurora, Niles, and all of the feeders. If they haven't started production yet, Pace might go ahead and move the ones at NW and SW to Aurora or the Naperville feeder buses could be moved if service isn't restored in a time
  15. 6227 has also been out this week. I do think 6258-6268 will be the last of the Nabis to retire, those buses came from North Shore a couple of years ago and didn't have full daily runs at times so they'll have lower mileage than the rest of the Nabis. But having said that, the Nabis are 17 years old and some of them look terrible. I'd have to believe there's a sense of urgency to let them go once Pace feels comfortable with the 20400s.
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