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6 hours ago, ajay said:

It was a 6400 series. I also saw a NOT IN SERVICE sign

NOT IN SERVICE means that it is not in service, such as heading on a non revenue trip (Andre said there is one trip per day between each garage and 77th for supplies, for instance). You seem to have some idea (based on your last 2 posts) that it means the bus is dead. Usually a dead bus is stuck in a yard with a big X on it, or on a tow hook.

For instance, around 1974, I saw from the Dan Ryan L a trolley bus on Wentworth. Going up the stairs, I saw it was being towed. It was not running magically 45 years before its time, but was junk.

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1 hour ago, Busjack said:

NOT IN SERVICE means that it is not in service, such as heading on a non revenue trip (Andre said there is one trip per day between each garage and 77th for supplies, for instance). You seem to have some idea (based on your last 2 posts) that it means the bus is dead. Usually a dead bus is stuck in a yard with a big X on it, or on a tow hook.

For instance, around 1974, I saw from the Dan Ryan L a trolley bus on Wentworth. Going up the stairs, I saw it was being towed. It was not running magically 45 years before its time, but was junk.

I think he saw a work bus to be honest.  They've been working under the L recently on Lake

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9 minutes ago, Sam92 said:

I think he saw a work bus to be honest.  They've been working under the L recently on Lake

That could be. He didn't get the number, but do they still add WB to the number?

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1 hour ago, Busjack said:

That could be. He didn't get the number, but do they still add WB to the number?

Last I saw they do indeed designate work buses with WB as part of the fleet number, and the 6400s have the odd present day distinction of still being in revenue service and having a few from their midst be work buses. Prior series of CTA's more recent times became work buses only after full retirement from what we all saw up to this point. 

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On 10/28/2018 at 2:10 AM, Sam92 said:

So it was 1St gen then.  2nd gen would be 7900

1996-2000 are first gens

2000-2008 are 2nd gens

2009-2012 are 3rd gens 

2013-present are 4th gens. 

 

Look it up if you dont believe me.

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1 hour ago, ajay said:

1996-2000 are first gens

2000-2008 are 2nd gens

2009-2012 are 3rd gens 

2013-present are 4th gens. 

 

Look it up if you dont believe me.

On what basis? Not CTA's.

If you want us to look it up, provide a link.

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1 hour ago, ajay said:

1996-2000 are first gens

2000-2008 are 2nd gens

2009-2012 are 3rd gens 

2013-present are 4th gens. 

 

Look it up if you dont believe me.

What generations of bus are these? No Novas were delivered between 2004 and 2014.

10 minutes ago, Busjack said:

On what basis? Not CTA's.

If you want us to look it up, provide a link.

I don't even think there is anything to look up here. If I'm understanding correctly, there are two generations of novas, the 6400 (1st gen, delivered 2000-2004) and 7900 (2nd gen, delivered 2014-status pending).

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31 minutes ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

What generations of bus are these? No Novas were delivered between 2004 and 2014.

I don't even think there is anything to look up here. If I'm understanding correctly, there are two generations of novas, the 6400 (1st gen, delivered 2000-2004) and 7900 (2nd gen, delivered 2014-status pending).

He might be referring to what was delivered to Montreal* and on Province of Quebec contracts, but if he is, he should so state.

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*For instance,Montreal got some LFSs that had windows similar to those on the RTSs and Flxible Metros, as opposed to later round rectangular ones like on the 6400s.

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3 minutes ago, Busjack said:

He might be referring to what was delivered to Montreal* and on Province of Quebec contracts, but if he is, he should so state.

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*For instance,Montreal got some LFSs that had windows similar to those on the RTSs and Flxible Metros, as opposed to later round rectangular ones like on the 6400s.

He's actually right on technical terms in regards to NOVA as a whole. What CTA has at the moment is there 2nd generation of NOVA's but in terms of bus model this is the 4th Generation of NOVA LFS.

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On 10/30/2018 at 2:08 PM, ChiTown said:

Sometimes I miss the 6400 series Nova buses on non Forest Glen routes :(

Me too. I miss seeing them on the 49,52,and 53

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14 minutes ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

Kedzie had those Novas for a short period of time.  I remember when they were on the 21 :/

Actually, Kedzie never had been officially assigned these Novas. During the time that the #21 ran primarily Novas, that route (along with the #60) were assigned to the now-defunct Archer Garage, not Kedzie.

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15 minutes ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

But what happened to Archer Garage?

Archer Garage closed on February 7, 2010, with the Novas that were assigned there redistributed to Chicago, Forest Glen, 77th, North Park and 74th at that time. It was demolished four years later. Retail space today occupies the site.

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On 11/12/2018 at 7:49 AM, chicagocubs6323 said:

Kedzie had those Novas for a short period of time.  I remember when they were on the 21 :/

That explain what i saw a image of them on bustalks

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On 11/13/2018 at 11:40 PM, ajay said:

That explain what i saw a image of them on bustalks

CTA6618Cermak-Wentworth.jpg

That confirmed what I stated above. Note the run number in the box beginning with "A", and the "A" on the windshield sticker.

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On 1/24/2009 at 5:24 PM, sw4400 said:

6800's(New Changes as of September 5, 2016)

6802,6803,6805,6810,6814,6820,6824,6826,6834,6836,6837,6838,6842,6843,6849,6854,6856,6858,6859,6860,

6861,6862,6865,6867,6868,6869,6870,6871,6873,6875,6877,6882

32 Buses Total

97 Total NOVA LFS Remaining

Bus #6400-6444,6446-6514,6516-6708 have Back-Lit Flip Dot Destination Signs
Bus #6445,6709-6883 have LED Destination Signs
Bus #6515 had/has a Twin-Vision Chroma LED Destination Sign

6441 also had a LED destination sign

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13 hours ago, ajay said:

 

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Necroing an old post, unless it is relevant to the more recent posts in the same thread or another thread, is just poor Web etiquette. The most recent posts in this thread has more to do with buses that remain in service. But 6441 and nearly all of the other early 6400s were retired from revenue service a couple of years ago, so that necroing became irrelevant to the current discussion.

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