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55 minutes ago, MARTA2400 said:

What’s gonna happen to the remaining 6600s, 6700s and 6800s, since the 6400s and 6500s ended up at Sims Scrap.

They gone continue to be in service until CTA says they got all that they need out of em then send them to the bone yard to rot then scrap em 

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Hi, I'm from the NW side of Chicago and I was following your discussion about the 6400 series Novas slowly retiring. I just took this pic today on my way home from work. I saw this tow truck towing

Another advantage is they give people on this forum something to argue about. 

There's a nice feature called "search for" on google maps........Blue Island and 23rd Street/Paulina

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7 minutes ago, Shannon CVPI said:

They gone continue to be in service until CTA says they got all that they need out of em then send them to the bone yard to rot then scrap em 

Damn. Those were my favs. Them and the Orion VI buses PACE had.

i was talking to iamaxcelsior on Instagram. He said 6699 isn’t retired.

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Departures 2019:

6440,6454,6465,6478,6493,6505,6506,6538,6578,6602,6619,6637,6729,6743,6754,6796,6797,6815,6828,6830,6855,6857,6872,6881 2-3/2019

6428,6430,6433,6481,6483,6489,6490,6502,6508,6511,6512,6566,6608,6642,6650,6654,6719,6740,6753,6777,6788,6852 4-5/2019

6403,6415,6422,6436,6437,6504,6517,6521,6526,6528,6529,6550,6551,6555,6669,6785,6804,6879 3-4/2019

6407,6423,6426,6427,6471,6496,6501,6514,6520,6572,6688,6708,6752,6760,6762,6766,6840,6853,6864,6876,6883 6/2019

All to Sims Metal Management - 85 total. No removals since June 27th.

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1 hour ago, andrethebusman said:

Departures 2019:

6440,6454,6465,6478,6493,6505,6506,6538,6578,6602,6619,6637,6729,6743,6754,6796,6797,6815,6828,6830,6855,6857,6872,6881 2-3/2019

6428,6430,6433,6481,6483,6489,6490,6502,6508,6511,6512,6566,6608,6642,6650,6654,6719,6740,6753,6777,6788,6852 4-5/2019

6403,6415,6422,6436,6437,6504,6517,6521,6526,6528,6529,6550,6551,6555,6669,6785,6804,6879 3-4/2019

6407,6423,6426,6427,6471,6496,6501,6514,6520,6572,6688,6708,6752,6760,6762,6766,6840,6853,6864,6876,6883 6/2019

All to Sims Metal Management - 85 total. No removals since June 27th.

Where is the scrapper located?

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14 hours ago, andrethebusman said:

All to Sims Metal Management - 85 total. No removals since June 27th.

If Sims does the actual scrapping, what’s the function of the junkyard in Markham? Do they salvage parts there or is it just a temporary storage location used by the towing company?

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On 1/29/2020 at 12:52 PM, andrethebusman said:

Departures 2019:

6440,6454,6465,6478,6493,6505,6506,6538,6578,6602,6619,6637,6729,6743,6754,6796,6797,6815,6828,6830,6855,6857,6872,6881 2-3/2019

6428,6430,6433,6481,6483,6489,6490,6502,6508,6511,6512,6566,6608,6642,6650,6654,6719,6740,6753,6777,6788,6852 4-5/2019

6403,6415,6422,6436,6437,6504,6517,6521,6526,6528,6529,6550,6551,6555,6669,6785,6804,6879 3-4/2019

6407,6423,6426,6427,6471,6496,6501,6514,6520,6572,6688,6708,6752,6760,6762,6766,6840,6853,6864,6876,6883 6/2019

All to Sims Metal Management - 85 total. No removals since June 27th.

my guess is once these 20 electric buses get delivered this year 6400’s are gone and then K and 74th will send FG flyers 

also guess is 10 to C 10 to 74th

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12 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

my guess is once these 20 electric buses get delivered this year 6400’s are gone and then K and 74th will send FG flyers 

also guess is 10 to C 10 to 74th

20 Proterras won't be nearly enough to bump off the rest of the 6400s. There's supposed to be a diesel order placed sometime later this year to replace the 6400s and the early Flyers. At least that's what I've heard.

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30 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

flyers got at least 5-6 years left 

Not necessarily. The earliest ones are more than twelve years old, meaning they can legally be retired (MCTS retired its 2006 D40LFs last summer). Sure, they're still in excellent condition, but it all depends on when CTA wants or is able to retire them. Let's not forget the oldest novas started retiring in 2014-15 when they were about the age the 1000s are now. But regardless, the last of the 6400s will still probably be around until 2021.

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Why’s it so hard for CTA to retire the rest of the 6400s? There’s more than enough buses at each garage. If you go by a garage during peak times there are probably 10 buses that each garage can give up without messing with service. I went by forest glen during the morning rush and there were an awful lot of 7900s and 1000s just sitting at the garage. What would happen if CTA one morning went to forest glen and just got rid of every 6400 just like that and forest glen was just left with whatever 7900s and 1000s they have? I think forest glen can survive off whatever number of buses it has without 6400s.

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36 minutes ago, Javi78 said:

Why’s it so hard for CTA to retire the rest of the 6400s? There’s more than enough buses at each garage. If you go by a garage during peak times there are probably 10 buses that each garage can give up without messing with service. I went by forest glen during the morning rush and there were an awful lot of 7900s and 1000s just sitting at the garage. What would happen if CTA one morning went to forest glen and just got rid of every 6400 just like that and forest glen was just left with whatever 7900s and 1000s they have? I think forest glen can survive off whatever number of buses it has without 6400s.

It is not that simple.   Each garage has spares on hand to account for breakdowns. maintenance issues, and extra service such as emergency rail shuttles  or special events shuttles.   CTA has retired a significant number of 6400s already.  They need more buses to completely retire the 6400s.

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2 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

seen WB-2 Yesterday at Western Brown Line by the 49B/11 turnaround 

 

4 hours ago, andrethebusman said:

Anyone seen a WB-1 or WB-2 lately? What former numbers at last report? Should be 3rd set by now.

Seen on on Roosevelt & Ashland last week it's in the random cta file or it might be further up in this one I can't remember off the top of my head 

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10 hours ago, andrethebusman said:

Anyone seen a WB-1 or WB-2 lately? What former numbers at last report? Should be 3rd set by now.

 

7 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

seen WB-2 Yesterday at Western Brown Line by the 49B/11 turnaround 

That seems to be it's usual hangout. I spotted it twice there, once in late December (these photos and videos are the day after Christmas I think) and again in early January

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