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5 minutes ago, John7 said:

Now im finding this strange. Why send 4133 to 77th only to be back running on route 20 as of now?

Maintenance...... 

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1 hour ago, John7 said:

Now im finding this strange. Why send 4133 to 77th only to be back running on route 20 as of now?

It's possible that it never went to 77th.  That was only speculation.   It's possible that it was just on a road test after repairs.

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4 hours ago, John7 said:

Now im finding this strange. Why send 4133 to 77th only to be back running on route 20 as of now?

Maintenance

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2 hours ago, artthouwill said:

It's possible that it never went to 77th.  That was only speculation.   It's possible that it was just on a road test after repairs.

Could have been going to. Cummins or south shops  maybe it was on a slow order  because it couldnt travel on the expressway. 

I actually took a broke down bus once with an van escort from my company to crest hill. The mechanics didnt have parts or facilities to do what needed to be done at my place so I was offered the trip. The bus drove hard suspension seemed to rub the frame when you braked. Bus was pulling to the right. Also it had no power steering or very little power steering. I was glad to get rid of it. I told my bus comrade if they see any smoke or anything unusual let me know. I dont want to be responsible for a bbq bus!!!

It's pretty cool when a bus breaks down the mechanic  comes out with his laptop and plugs it to the bus. The bus tells him what's wrong. I was stranded once on an old bus I had offered to trade my bus because the bus broke down it was needed for routes and I was pulling in. So the mechanic without lifting the hood said the torque converter was bad and there were some trans faults besides that. I tried moving the bus, being a bus fan, I remembered seeing the mechanic work on the cta breakdowns in my youth. So I started the bus, gassed it for a few minutes like a cold start and I got it to move. But it died on the next block. Figuring maybe I'm out of my realm I gave up. The mechanic drove it in. He told me hey kid do you know how to drive a manual trans. I said not really. He said you will have to gas it when it idles at traffic lights and driving, it will not go more than 5 to 10 mph. So I rode back in the mobile truck. The guy got it back to the yard so he must be good at his job. It was cool hanging around with the mechanics though. I've learned alot about buses it's been an enlightening experience so far.

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16 minutes ago, BusHunter said:

Could have been going to. Cummins or south shops  maybe it was on a slow order  because it couldnt travel on the expressway. 

I actually took a broke down bus once with an van escort from my company to crest hill. The mechanics didnt have parts or facilities to do what needed to be done at my place so I was offered the trip. The bus drove hard suspension seemed to rub the frame when you braked. Bus was pulling to the right. Also it had no power steering or very little power steering. I was glad to get rid of it. I told my bus comrade if they see any smoke or anything unusual let me know. I dont want to be responsible for a bbq bus!!!

It's pretty cool when a bus breaks down the mechanic  comes out with his laptop and plugs it to the bus. The bus tells him what's wrong. I was stranded once on an old bus I had offered to trade my bus because the bus broke down it was needed for routes and I was pulling in. So the mechanic without lifting the hood said the torque converter was bad and there were some trans faults besides that. I tried moving the bus, being a bus fan, I remembered seeing the mechanic work on the cta breakdowns in my youth. So I started the bus, gassed it for a few minutes like a cold start and I got it to move. But it died on the next block. Figuring maybe I'm out of my realm I gave up. The mechanic drove it in. He told me hey kid do you know how to drive a manual trans. I said not really. He said you will have to gas it when it idles at traffic lights and driving, it will not go more than 5 to 10 mph. So I rode back in the mobile truck. The guy got it back to the yard so he must be good at his job. It was cool hanging around with the mechanics though. I've learned alot about buses it's been an enlightening experience so far.

I could be wrong,  but I don't think it went to South Shops either.  Like I said before,  I think they were road testing.  Besides, based on the location that the bus was spotted,  it was past Cummins.

Besides that, I don't think South Shops is a 24 hour operation. 

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3 hours ago, Chammon129577 said:

1552 is on the 47th came out of south shops 

Yes. It was part of a group of mid-1500s that were transferred from FG to 74th a few weeks ago. 1552-1557, to be exact. At around the same time, 74th also received 1564-1573 and 1575-1577 from 77th, and 1578 and 1579 from K. For some inexplicable reason 1558-1561 and 1574 remain at FG.

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23 hours ago, Master58 said:

4072 is on the 6 today. 

Today it's back at C, running on the 53.

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On 7/22/2020 at 7:37 PM, sht6131 said:

Don`t know if the passenger count necessitates a 12  to 15 minute street but I could see the passengers packed if  runs are missing or one falls behind schedule by even 3 minutes.

I would go with increasing the frequency.

Something I suggested myself a couple weeks ago and agree with you about.

On 7/22/2020 at 12:59 AM, chicagocubs6323 said:

Even with that, it's only a smaller portion of the route compared to the actual length of it.  The 12 doesn't need artics, the 21 is packed through the majority of the route.  Even with 322 helping out in Cicero and Berwyn the bus still gets packed.  I saw a 21 today and it was an artic coming in WB at 54th/Cermak.  The bus had most of the seats taken.  Even in NON COVID-19 times the 21 needs artics.  Same thing with Ashland and probably Western. 

Having actually ridden the 12 in both pre-COVID times and the current ones with the restrictions on maximum bus loads, That statement that the  doesn't need artics at all is false. I'll agree with you that it didn't need the increase in artics to the degree that K had been operating with during this current pick and that K was mishandling their use, but saying the 12 doesn't need artics at all is categorically false

On @YoungBusLover's observation of the 146 and 147's artic use in recent weeks, the 40 foot use on either route haven't really decreased as much as it seems, NP has just had artic deployment more in tune with the COVID service report's times of mildly higher passenger counts. As the passenger counts ease back into that green range, 40 foot buses are noticeably higher in number. The 147 for example consistently has maybe two 40 foot buses on the route from sometime during off peak hours up until the 4 PM hour of the evening rush. One of those tends to start its NB trip during the 2 PM hour and the other very consistently during that 3 PM hour since that one is always on the same weekday run and is the one I somehow always catch when leaving work on my 6 AM days. After that 4 PM hour 40 foot buses make a significant increase on the 147 for an almost even coverage of service alongside the artics for the rest of the service day between late PM rush and late evening. During AM rush the 40 footers tend to operate a high number of the SB short trips between Sheridan/Devon/Broadway and Michigan/Balbo. On weekends, service on 147 tends to be all runs except one or two run by artics during the early to late part of the morning transitioning to at least a quarter up to almost half the buses on the route being 40 foot buses by the time of the early to middle part of afternoon rolling around. With the 146, the 40 footers during weekday mornings look to be mostly on all the AM rush SB short trips that end at State/Harrison with the artics running most of the full trips in both directions. Off peak 40 foot buses may be doing two or three runs. On weekends, the 146 has been consistent run on at least a 50/50 split between artics and 40 footers, but with them deployed with the 40 foot runs running back to back and the artic runs back to back, such that one direction of the route can often be mostly artics and the other direction mostly 40 footers.

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On 8/2/2020 at 12:59 PM, jajuan said:

Something I suggested myself a couple weeks ago and agree with you about.

Having actually ridden the 12 in both pre-COVID times and the current ones with the restrictions on maximum bus loads, That statement that the  doesn't need artics at all is false. I'll agree with you that it didn't need the increase in artics to the degree that K had been operating with during this current pick and that K was mishandling their use, but saying the 12 doesn't need artics at all is categorically false

On @YoungBusLover's observation of the 146 and 147's artic use in recent weeks, the 40 foot use on either route haven't really decreased as much as it seems, NP has just had artic deployment more in tune with the COVID service report's times of mildly higher passenger counts. As the passenger counts ease back into that green range, 40 foot buses are noticeably higher in number. The 147 for example consistently has maybe two 40 foot buses on the route from sometime during off peak hours up until the 4 PM hour of the evening rush. One of those tends to start its NB trip during the 2 PM hour and the other very consistently during that 3 PM hour since that one is always on the same weekday run and is the one I somehow always catch when leaving work on my 6 AM days. After that 4 PM hour 40 foot buses make a significant increase on the 147 for an almost even coverage of service alongside the artics for the rest of the service day between late PM rush and late evening. During AM rush the 40 footers tend to operate a high number of the SB short trips between Sheridan/Devon/Broadway and Michigan/Balbo. On weekends, service on 147 tends to be all runs except one or two run by artics during the early to late part of the morning transitioning to at least a quarter up to almost half the buses on the route being 40 foot buses by the time of the early to middle part of afternoon rolling around. With the 146, the 40 footers during weekday mornings look to be mostly on all the AM rush SB short trips that end at State/Harrison with the artics running most of the full trips in both directions. Off peak 40 foot buses may be doing two or three runs. On weekends, the 146 has been consistent run on at least a 50/50 split between artics and 40 footers, but with them deployed with the 40 foot runs running back to back and the artic runs back to back, such that one direction of the route can often be mostly artics and the other direction mostly 40 footers.

I wonder if that'll change during the next pick. North Park seems to be doing fine now but I can only imagine they'll need some type of assistance soon if indeed things go back to normal. 

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