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What I meant is that it went to north for pre maint work before getting DOT certified. then north will run it to Delfs. I've seen the HP works and it has not a proper facility for dedicated bus work. I believe Pace would want their mechanics to give it a once over first.

Plus getting Eldo's for 573 wold be not cost effective. A specific model for one route which is under performance does not make sense. I personally see sticking to one model instead of 3 or 4 keeps things simplified... less parts... less pain.

What you said about a special model does make sense, though there are a lot of things Pace does that does not make sense anyway. With school getting out for the summer, a new run pick is going to take effect fairly soon. They may end up interlining routes and times that do not see many passengers to make more use of El Dorados. 561 usually is not even to seated capacity, except for rush hour times, so they may interline it with something else not busy as well, perhaps the 563, which usually does not get too full either. Every run pick sees changes to runs, sometimes for no apparent reason, so they may have been experimenting. Plus other garages would stock parts for El Dorados too, so it may be as simple as sending someone to Northwest or somewhere.

Of course, I am probably overthinking here.

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Interestingly, coming north on Waukegan Road with my dad, we had bus 2637 behind us through Lake Forest and Lake Bluff. A mechanic appeared to be driving it, run box had "6000" in it. Turned westbound on Rockland Road (Highway 176). Seems a bit out of place for a Highland Park bus.

Webwatch shows 2637 back in Highland Park.

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2638 not either at HP or North this a.m.

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Updated the roster today, finally located #6645 at South, (still looking for #6646) transferred a few #6600's from West to North, removed the #2400's and put the #2300's on the apron at NS, (probably should just remove those) updated the axess' assignments. I still might need to transfer a few #6600's from West. Other than that it should be up to date.

6646 was on Webwatch at South in January

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6646 was on Webwatch at South in January

While I wasn't going to put bets on January still being the case, in this case it is: 6646 on 354:

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It is rumored, by HP drivers, that the mystery 2638 is at North for pre Ravina maintenance and for driver training for North drivers cause they will use mostly HP eldos for ravinia occasionally borrowing North drivers. Hp has most if not all 2630's and the Hybrids. Again... rumor.

Plus a weird blip on Webwatch....

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This is what I have for the current Pace roster. (last updated 5/28/13)

  • North (Waukegan) (46 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6600 - #6603, #6606, #6607, #6608, #6611, #6616, #6620, #6621, #6624 - #6628, #6632, #6633, #6636 - #6640, #6643, #6644, #6661, #6665, #6667, #6671, #6674, #6675, #6679, #6680, #6682, #6684 (35 total)
  • NabI LFW-40 (2003): #6220, #6222 - 24, #6226 - #6230, #6236, #6237 (11)

  • Northwest (127 total)
  • Orion VI (2000 - 2003): #6000 - #6012, #6014 - #6039, #6045, #6046, #6051, #6055 - #6057, #6063 - #6067, #6111 - #6161 (101 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2767 - #2792 (26 total)

  • North Shore (56 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2630, #2651 - #2659 (10 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2704 - #2706 (3 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6622, #6623, #6635, #6641, #6642, #6647, #6649, #6664, #6668, #6670, #6676 (11 total)
  • Orion I (1993): #2279, #2282, #2284, #2285, #2339, #2345, #2349, #2350 (parked on the aprons of the garage, not being used) (7 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6231, #6233 - #6235, #6238 - #6240, #6251, #6253, #6255 - #6261 (17 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6262 - #6267, #6322 (7 total)

  • River Division (Elgin) (34 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2702, #2703, #2707 - #2712, #2714 - #2726, #2736 - #2742 (28 total)
  • NABI LFW=35 (2003): #6631, #6648, #6652, #6666, #6669, #6683 (6 total)

  • West (136 total)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6323 - #6376 (55 total)
  • Orion VI (2000): #6041 - #6044, #6048 - #6050, #6052 - #6054, #6058 - #6060, #6062, #6068 - #6071 (18 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6225, #6241 - #6249, #6252 (11 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6269, #6270, #6279 - #6312, #6314 - #6317, #6320 (40 total)
  • NABI LFW (2003): #6604, #6605, #6609, #6610, #6612, #6618, #6630, #6650, #6651, #6672, #6673, #6681 (12 total)

  • Downers Grove Commuter Shuttle (7 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2601 - #2603, #2650, #2699 - #2701 (7 total)

  • Fox Valley Division (Aurora) (31 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2605 - #2612, #2614 - #2629 (29 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2826 - #2829 ( 3 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2765, #2766 (2 total)

  • Heritage Division (Joliet) (39 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2743 - #2764 (22 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2002): #6900 - #6907 (8 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2011): #6918 - #6925 (7 total leased)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6377, #6378 (2 total) (half of #6380, #6383 - #6391 coming soon)

  • First Student (Westmont/Lisle) (20 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2793 - #2812 (20 total)

  • First Student (Naperville) (37 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2635, #2660 - #2695 (37 total)

  • Southwest (51 total)
  • Orion VI (2000): #6072 - #6110 (39 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2814 - #2825 (12 total)

  • South (111 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6162 - #6172, #6174 - #6212, #6214 - #6219, #6221, #6232, #6250, #6254 (60 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6268, #6271 - #6278, #6303, #6318, #6319, #6321 (13 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6614, #6615, #6617, #6619, #6629, #6634, #6635, #6645, #6646, #6653 - #6660, #6662, #6663, #6677, #6678 (21 total)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6379, #6381, #6382 (3 total so far) (half of #6380, #6383 - #6391 coming soon
  • MCI D-4000 (2002): #6908 - #6912 (5 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2010): #6914 - #6917 (leased MCI's) (4 total)

  • Niles (12 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2600, #2604, #2640 - #2649 (12 total)

  • City Of Highland Park (10 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2631 - #2634, #2636 - #2639 (8 total)
  • Orion Hybrid (2011): #2831, #2832 (2 total)

  • Dupage - Wheaton (8 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2727 - #2734 (8 total)

  • Mchenry (still exists?) (3 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2696 - #2698 (3 total)

i think there's a typo. you have 6635 at north shore and at south.

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This is what I have for the current Pace roster. (last updated 5/30/13)

  • North (Waukegan) (46 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6600 - #6603, #6606, #6607, #6608, #6611, #6616, #6620, #6621, #6624 - #6628, #6632, #6633, #6636 - #6640, #6643, #6644, #6661, #6665, #6667, #6671, #6674, #6675, #6679, #6680, #6682, #6684 (35 total)
  • NabI LFW-40 (2003): #6220, #6222 - 24, #6226 - #6230, #6236, #6237 (11)

  • Northwest (127 total)
  • Orion VI (2000 - 2003): #6000 - #6012, #6014 - #6039, #6045, #6046, #6051, #6055 - #6057, #6063 - #6067, #6111 - #6161 (101 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2767 - #2792 (26 total)

  • North Shore (55 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2630, #2651 - #2659 (10 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2704 - #2706 (3 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6622, #6623, #6641, #6642, #6647, #6649, #6664, #6668, #6670, #6676 (10 total)
  • Orion I (1993): #2279, #2282, #2284, #2285, #2339, #2345, #2349, #2350 (parked on the aprons of the garage, not being used) (7 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6231, #6233 - #6235, #6238 - #6240, #6251, #6253, #6255 - #6261 (17 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6262 - #6267, #6322 (7 total)

  • River Division (Elgin) (34 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2702, #2703, #2707 - #2712, #2714 - #2726, #2736 - #2742 (28 total)
  • NABI LFW=35 (2003): #6631, #6648, #6652, #6666, #6669, #6683 (6 total)

  • West (136 total)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6323 - #6376 (55 total)
  • Orion VI (2000): #6041 - #6044, #6048 - #6050, #6052 - #6054, #6058 - #6060, #6062, #6068 - #6071 (18 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6225, #6241 - #6249, #6252 (11 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6269, #6270, #6279 - #6312, #6314 - #6317, #6320 (40 total)
  • NABI LFW (2003): #6604, #6605, #6609, #6610, #6612, #6618, #6630, #6650, #6651, #6672, #6673, #6681 (12 total)

  • Downers Grove Commuter Shuttle (7 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2601 - #2603, #2650, #2699 - #2701 (7 total)

  • Fox Valley Division (Aurora) (31 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2605 - #2612, #2614 - #2629 (29 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2826 - #2829 ( 3 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2765, #2766 (2 total)

  • Heritage Division (Joliet) (39 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2743 - #2764 (22 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2002): #6900 - #6907 (8 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2011): #6918 - #6925 (7 total leased)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6377, #6378 (2 total) (half of #6380, #6383 - #6391 coming soon)

  • First Student (Westmont/Lisle) (20 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2793 - #2812 (20 total)

  • First Student (Naperville) (37 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2635, #2660 - #2695 (37 total)

  • Southwest (51 total)
  • Orion VI (2000): #6072 - #6110 (39 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2814 - #2825 (12 total)

  • South (111 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6162 - #6172, #6174 - #6212, #6214 - #6219, #6221, #6232, #6250, #6254 (60 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6268, #6271 - #6278, #6303, #6318, #6319, #6321 (13 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6614, #6615, #6617, #6619, #6629, #6634, #6635, #6645, #6646, #6653 - #6660, #6662, #6663, #6677, #6678 (21 total)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6379, #6381, #6382 (3 total so far) (half of #6380, #6383 - #6391 coming soon
  • MCI D-4000 (2002): #6908 - #6912 (5 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2010): #6914 - #6917 (leased MCI's) (4 total)

  • Niles (12 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2600, #2604, #2640 - #2649 (12 total)

  • City Of Highland Park (10 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2631 - #2634, #2636 - #2639 (8 total)
  • Orion Hybrid (2011): #2831, #2832 (2 total)

  • Dupage - Wheaton (8 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2727 - #2734 (8 total)

  • Mchenry (still exists?) (3 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2696 - #2698 (3 total)

Also, #2735 is missing from the roster list. Last I checked, it was in the DuPage - Wheaton roster.

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It is rumored, by HP drivers, that the mystery 2638 is at North for pre Ravina maintenance and for driver training for North drivers cause they will use mostly HP eldos for ravinia occasionally borrowing North drivers. Hp has most if not all 2630's and the Hybrids. Again... rumor.

Plus a weird blip on Webwatch....

The driver training would make sense. That would explain why I saw an El Dorado on Lewis Avenue, and a driver's comment that sounded like the bus had been there a little while.

I got a friend at the garage that does Ravinia runs, I'll send him a message on Facebook, see what he says.

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Also, #2735 is missing from the roster list. Last I checked, it was in the DuPage - Wheaton roster.

#2735 is on the #715 and #711 Dupage routes.

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This is what I have for the current Pace roster. (last updated 5/30/13)

  • North (Waukegan) (46 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6600 - #6603, #6606, #6607, #6608, #6611, #6616, #6620, #6621, #6624 - #6628, #6632, #6633, #6636 - #6640, #6643, #6644, #6661, #6665, #6667, #6671, #6674, #6675, #6679, #6680, #6682, #6684 (35 total)
  • NabI LFW-40 (2003): #6220, #6222 - 24, #6226 - #6230, #6236, #6237 (11)

  • Northwest (127 total)
  • Orion VI (2000 - 2003): #6000 - #6012, #6014 - #6039, #6045, #6046, #6051, #6055 - #6057, #6063 - #6067, #6111 - #6161 (101 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2767 - #2792 (26 total)

  • North Shore (55 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2630, #2651 - #2659 (10 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2704 - #2706 (3 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6622, #6623, #6641, #6642, #6647, #6649, #6664, #6668, #6670, #6676 (10 total)
  • Orion I (1993): #2279, #2282, #2284, #2285, #2339, #2345, #2349, #2350 (parked on the aprons of the garage, not being used) (7 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6231, #6233 - #6235, #6238 - #6240, #6251, #6253, #6255 - #6261 (17 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6262 - #6267, #6322 (7 total)

  • River Division (Elgin) (34 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2702, #2703, #2707 - #2712, #2714 - #2726, #2736 - #2742 (28 total)
  • NABI LFW=35 (2003): #6631, #6648, #6652, #6666, #6669, #6683 (6 total)

  • West (136 total)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6323 - #6376 (55 total)
  • Orion VI (2000): #6041 - #6044, #6048 - #6050, #6052 - #6054, #6058 - #6060, #6062, #6068 - #6071 (18 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6225, #6241 - #6249, #6252 (11 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6269, #6270, #6279 - #6312, #6314 - #6317, #6320 (40 total)
  • NABI LFW (2003): #6604, #6605, #6609, #6610, #6612, #6618, #6630, #6650, #6651, #6672, #6673, #6681 (12 total)

  • Downers Grove Commuter Shuttle (7 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2601 - #2603, #2650, #2699 - #2701 (7 total)

  • Fox Valley Division (Aurora) (31 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2605 - #2612, #2614 - #2629 (29 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2826 - #2829 ( 3 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2765, #2766 (2 total)

  • Heritage Division (Joliet) (39 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2743 - #2764 (22 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2002): #6900 - #6907 (8 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2011): #6918 - #6925 (7 total leased)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6377, #6378 (2 total) (half of #6380, #6383 - #6391 coming soon)

  • First Student (Westmont/Lisle) (20 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2793 - #2812 (20 total)

  • First Student (Naperville) (37 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2635, #2660 - #2695 (37 total)

  • Southwest (51 total)
  • Orion VI (2000): #6072 - #6110 (39 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2009): #2814 - #2825 (12 total)

  • South (111 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2003): #6162 - #6172, #6174 - #6212, #6214 - #6219, #6221, #6232, #6250, #6254 (60 total)
  • NABI LFW-40 (2005): #6268, #6271 - #6278, #6303, #6318, #6319, #6321 (13 total)
  • NABI LFW-35 (2003): #6614, #6615, #6617, #6619, #6629, #6634, #6635, #6645, #6646, #6653 - #6660, #6662, #6663, #6677, #6678 (21 total)
  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6379, #6381, #6382 (3 total so far) (half of #6380, #6383 - #6391 coming soon
  • MCI D-4000 (2002): #6908 - #6912 (5 total)
  • MCI D-4000 (2010): #6914 - #6917 (leased MCI's) (4 total)

  • Niles (12 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2600, #2604, #2640 - #2649 (12 total)

  • City Of Highland Park (10 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2631 - #2634, #2636 - #2639 (8 total)
  • Orion Hybrid (2011): #2831, #2832 (2 total)

  • Dupage - Wheaton (8 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2007): #2727 - #2735 (9 total)

  • Mchenry (still exists?) (3 total)
  • Eldorado EZ-Rider (2006): #2696 - #2698 (3 total)

and 2601 is still in Niles, not Downers Grove.

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and 2601 is still in Niles, not Downers Grove.

Yeah, Busjack said we were up to #6385 at south also. So are the south MCI's gone?

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Yeah, Busjack said we were up to #6385 at south also. So are the south MCI's gone?

Last week WebWatch still had 6912 and 6919. Didn't see them this morning, but I didn't look early enough.

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The driver training would make sense. That would explain why I saw an El Dorado on Lewis Avenue, and a driver's comment that sounded like the bus had been there a little while.

I got a friend at the garage that does Ravinia runs, I'll send him a message on Facebook, see what he says.

2638 Back in HP

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Anyone know if any ex-North Orion Is are at Highland Park awaiting Ravinia service? I've heard some things going around about it being possible. I know a couple North drivers who also drive Ravinia shuttles, I'll ask one of them when I see them next, though I see neither of them very often.

Just went by there and the Ravina service seems to be ex-North NABI 35 footers:

2426 2430 2431 2434 2437 2441 2444 2445

2430 was smoking like hell.The rest seemed to be in pretty good shape.

But I figured something like that since the Orion Is previously in Ravinia service were on the last scrap list. Also, Sunday is not as big as Friday and Saturday nights, but I wasn't going to buck Sting traffic.

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  • Eldorado Axess (2012): #6377, #6378 (2 total) (half of #6386 - #6391 coming soon)

What does "half of" mean?

Nothing.

2/15th, although WebWatch also reflects 6379-6385 at South, which gets you theoretically 9/15ths of the buses up to 6391.

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Nothing.

2/15th, although WebWatch also reflects 6379-6385 at South, which gets you theoretically 9/15ths of the buses up to 6391.

Alright, well, uh, I see. zzzzzzz

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Word on the street is 6323 is now at NW to be used as a training bus.

Is there then any indication that Pace exercised the first option and is going to start replacing Orion VIs in the near future?

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Word on the street is 6323 is now at NW to be used as a training bus.

I'll keep my eyes open for it in Des Plaines and if I see it, I'll let you know.

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Is there then any indication that Pace exercised the first option and is going to start replacing Orion VIs in the near future?

Busjack may be on to something. I know it's 9pm at night, but looking at all the north routes on Webwatch, nearly all of the buses running were 6100s. No early 6000s at all, in fact only 6033 and 6066 (former West bus) were out. Could be foreshadowing.

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Is there then any indication that Pace exercised the first option and is going to start replacing Orion VIs in the near future?

That, or, depending on how many buses that Northwest or River might need for the I-90 project, fleet reallocation.

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