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Let's see, up to 2013 they took care of ~140 39 year old antiques and ~200 25 year old antiques, and they will get 7000s eventually.

In the meantime, maybe someone should figure out how to keep bowels under control.

What kind of posts are we going to get in 2017 with the poor Red Line having only 5000s that smell like? And the south side (except maybe 74th, unless the usual More Bus Moves happen) having the decrepit 1000s?

Well if they were smart the #5000's would be half blue and half red and when 2017 comes around then the red and blue line gets #7000's and no one has all one year equipment.

Man these #6400 seat inserts look terrible at fg. They must have never replaced them at 77th. When the seat insert breaks down it gets this grime shiny look to it like gum that has turned black from sweat or whatever. That is nasty!! A few #1000's are starting to look like that but they are still better than the #6400's. I bet they throw those out. Heck they need to stick those in the #6400's

Lol!!

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I'm pretty sure it's just the signs being fixed. Someone I talked to said #3207-08 have the same controller, so what does that sound like?

What's the basis of this solicitation*, then, or CTA saying that they were spending about $648K/car**?

I mentioned before that a few prototype signs were being tested before going ahead with the order, but somehow instead of reading this thread, you took that as on the topic of being off topic, generally.

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*Somehow, you quoting me resulted in an error in the link; the correct one, which was in my post, is here.

**See here.

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What's the basis of this solicitation*, then, or CTA saying that they were spending about $648K/car**?

I mentioned before that a few prototype signs were being tested before going ahead with the order, but somehow instead of reading this thread, you took that as on the topic of being off topic, generally.

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*Somehow, you quoting me resulted in an error in the link; the correct one, which was in my post, is here.

**See here.

Again you have totally lost what I am saying. I'm not saying there will be no rehab just that it's not happening yet.

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I second the request. Please?

Who said I had pictures? What I need to be saying is can I see? Lol!! No sweat I'll see if I can get pictures tomorrow unless my contact has some then you will see some tonight. I'm surprised Garmon doesn't have pictures.

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Who said I had pictures? What I need to be saying is can I see? Lol!! No sweat I'll see if I can get pictures tomorrow unless my contact has some then you will see some tonight. I'm surprised Garmon doesn't have pictures.

No rush, just thought you did. :ph34r:

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Yeah I hear you. What i don't like about it is you can go from the Red line which is still pretty clean cause the cars are new and go then to the blue line and the cars smell terrible. It's like riding in a toilet!! You know someone said once to not sit in the seats behind the motorcab or inside the enclosed passenger side motorcab area as those are the smelliest areas. They are. That is always where the homeless sit. If they don't want to clean up the cars put an air freshener at least.

I totally agree with you that both the Red and Blue lines should be half old and half new equipment. How do they expect Blue line personnel to take care of 340 something antiques? Really if they want to do that and give them all the old cars then they should have more maintenance crews there and more cleanup crews there and maybe they could get a hold of this epidemic of smelly cars. Why do they need excess mechanics on the Red line to take care of new equipment? if it's not a lemon it's not going to have problems for a while.

Putting all the old buses out NW also raises eyebrows for me. That whole side of the city is stuck in a 12

years ago time warp. Again I'd send more mechanics to FG and remove some of them from the garages with no novas. It's really nutty when you think about it. You can board either the newest bus and the newest train on the east side of town or the oldest train and oldest bus on the northwest side of town. You can't help but wonder if a certain group of riders are being singled out or being unfairly treated.

Sorry but I avoid the 2600 series cars whenever I ride the Blue Line. Ill ride 2700s and up. I recall many times riding down to South Shops to pick up a bus that meant having to ride in cars that smelled like urine and homeless people begging for money! Not a very pleasant riding experience! Now those very same cars are now operating to OHare airport!

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Sorry but I avoid the 2600 series cars whenever I ride the Blue Line. Ill ride 2700s and up. I recall many times riding down to South Shops to pick up a bus that meant having to ride in cars that smelled like urine and homeless people begging for money! Not a very pleasant riding experience! Now those very same cars are now operating to OHare airport!

It seems as though CTA could staff a mopper at the end of most lines, especially both ends of the Blue. Since O'Hare and Midway can berth three trains, the last train in would be the third train out, which means someone could mop the train while the first train loads and leaves, then a second train loads and leaves. By that time, the train should be mopped and ready for service. ( I suppose you would need at least 3 moppers, one for each berthing location). I think it may be harder to pull off at Howard because of the frequency of trains and how tahe turnaround is built.

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When i worked in the transportation industry at O'Hare the company I was with would spray Febreze all over it seats. It actually gave the vehicle a fresher smell. Too bad CTA wouldn't do that. It would freshen up the stink. You know what would be a trip. To have a febreze wrapped train. If it passes the smell test they could actually show the toughness of the product and sell a few bottles, but probably that would look bad for CTA as that is saying they run smelly service. :huh::P

BTW 5750, it doesn't matter what number cars you ride, all blue line cars can stink if the right person rides them. It definitely is the worst offender in my book.

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When i worked in the transportation industry at O'Hare the company I was with would spray Febreze all over it seats. It actually gave the vehicle a fresher smell. Too bad CTA wouldn't do that. It would freshen up the stink. ...

CTA at least claimed that they used all sorts of heavy duty industrial cleaners. However, that could have been several administrations ago.

From the way people are talking, there are some stinks that Febreze doesn't mask.

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A friend gave me a few shots of #5000's with Orange, Brown and Blue line destinations. You can compare them with the #3200's and see how they look. (FYI, I mislabled the orange loop that should be brown loop, the colors look so close they almost look the same but you can go by the run numbers)

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A friend gave me a few shots of #5000's with Orange, Brown and Blue line destinations. You can compare them with the #3200's and see how they look. (FYI, I mislabled the orange loop that should be brown loop, the colors look so close they almost look the same but you can go by the run numbers)

attachicon.gifmidway 5000's picture.jpg

attachicon.gif5000's orange loop.jpg

attachicon.gifkimball 5000's.jpg

attachicon.gifforest park blue line picture.jpg

attachicon.gif5000's jefferson park.jpg

Cool! How easy is it to change the sign? I'd like to see one scrolling through every destination stored in there...I'm curious how many they can hold and how many we haven't even seen before.

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Cool! How easy is it to change the sign? I'd like to see one scrolling through every destination stored in there...I'm curious how many they can hold and how many we haven't even seen before.

Well the rehabbed #3200 signs can only hold 15 selections, what the #3200's currently hold which sounds to me like it's just a sign test so far. I'll ask someone about the #5000's, from what I've heard it's more than 15. I believe someone mentioned it on here.

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Well the rehabbed #3200 signs can only hold 15 selections, what the #3200's currently hold which sounds to me like it's just a sign test so far. I'll ask someone about the #5000's, from what I've heard it's more than 15. I believe someone mentioned it on here.

Yes I did. There are 45 signs, and on the 3200s, there is a switch on the master controller that can be flipped for 3 sets of 15.

The ones on the 3200s are controlled by the same two dials that control the comparable roll signs, while those on the 5000s are presumably controlled by the operator's panel and gps.

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A friend gave me a few shots of #5000's with Orange, Brown and Blue line destinations. You can compare them with the #3200's and see how they look. (FYI, I mislabled the orange loop that should be brown loop, the colors look so close they almost look the same but you can go by the run numbers)

attachicon.gifmidway 5000's picture.jpg

attachicon.gif5000's orange loop.jpg

attachicon.gifkimball 5000's.jpg

attachicon.gifforest park blue line picture.jpg

attachicon.gif5000's jefferson park.jpg

Now that makes me really want Color destination signs on NYCT's R211s.

Do you mind if I post them on NYCTF and correct the idiots that said a color LED cant show brown?

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If their soon to be retired in the next 10 years the probably not but if CTA is going for a standardized look then yes. I bet that 7000-series will not look anything different in exterior appearance but one remains to wait until "Later This Spring" for that reveal

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If their soon to be retired in the next 10 years the probably not but if CTA is going for a standardized look then yes. I bet that 7000-series will not look anything different in exterior appearance but one remains to wait until "Later This Spring" for that reveal

Probably the body of the 7000s would be the main difference but it's too soon to think about that.

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If their soon to be retired in the next 10 years the probably not but if CTA is going for a standardized look then yes. I bet that 7000-series will not look anything different in exterior appearance but one remains to wait until "Later This Spring" for that reveal

I hope they at least change the front. The sides don't look that aged but the front looks like it did 30 years ago. They need to modernize the look a bit!

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I said this awhile back probably like 2-3 yrs ago but if they do decide to change it up, I hope they only change the end caps to resemble the old cars such as the 2000 series. I think that would Be cool considering how the 3200 and even the 5000 front ends look like the classic 6000 series if you do a side to side comparisons you all will see what I mean but as far as the sides and doors of the new cars they should keep it current like the 5000's cause that's basically the standard now.

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A friend gave me a few shots of #5000's with Orange, Brown and Blue line destinations. You can compare them with the #3200's and see how they look. (FYI, I mislabled the orange loop that should be brown loop, the colors look so close they almost look the same but you can go by the run numbers)

attachicon.gifmidway 5000's picture.jpg

attachicon.gif5000's orange loop.jpg

attachicon.gifkimball 5000's.jpg

attachicon.gifforest park blue line picture.jpg

attachicon.gif5000's jefferson park.jpg

It will be a long time before we see this on the Blue Line!

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