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16 hours ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said:

Weird. I'm at a total loss, other than something that measures or changes the air quality.

Me too... only thing I can think of is maybe a thermometer for AC system to adjust. Hmmmm now that I think about it.... is the HVAC unit set for a certain temp or does the system do an auto calculation?

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3 hours ago, richii0909 said:

Just saw meta 7661 at KYD yard. It’s sporting a new paint scheme similar to all recently painted rehabbed locomotives. Very interesting and unique. I was on the wrong side of the train to catch a picture

Same as depicted here?

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11 hours ago, richii0909 said:

yes thats it I only got to catch a glimpse.... any info on the paint scheme? Will all cars be repainted or whats the rhyme and reason?

Obviously, the only ones that would need to be repainted are any reacquired C&NW.

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Those metal things with Merc on them are mercury thermometers.  It's an old temperature control system.  Only a few of the older Budd and Pullman cars still utilize this.  Most cars have been modifed to use thermistors to measure temperature.  Some still have the rack without the thermometers in place.

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30 minutes ago, richii0909 said:

What is meant when automated system says conductor please report to the customer service car. I was UP north line and this message has come on twice going and coming.

I asked that question once before, @trainman8119 answered that the "customer service car" is the ADA car. Usually the audio message would be to summon the conductor to operate the lift for a passenger who wants to get off.

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37 minutes ago, richii0909 said:

Were they a one off type of gallery car? I see nothing else similar to them in the fleet. They seem tighter inside than say the carbon steel cars which I believe are from 1950 but i could be wrong

Looks like the CB&Q was the first to use bi-level commuter cars in Chicago. Both CB&Q and C&NW owned  its respective cars, and they were presumably built on their own specs. Budd cars were pretty much all stainless steel.

 

The most prevalent type of stainless steel cars generally did not appear until RTA took responsibility for the railroads, although there are indications that the RI and Milw. Road each had a few while still operating.The Burlington ones (7100s) were from when the WSMTD obtained them. Likewise, the original Highliners were procured by the CSSMTD.

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2 minutes ago, Busjack said:

Looks like the CB&Q was the first to use bi-level commuter cars in Chicago. Both CB&Q and C&NW owned  its respective cars, and they were presumably built on their own specs.

 

Burlington required that their bilevel coaches have much stronger anti-telescoping strength in the coach ends than any of the other railroads here.  I'm not sure why, but probably due to the higher speeds on the Burlington, along with all the freight traffic it carries west of the Hawthorne Yard in Cicero.

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On 7/17/2018 at 5:21 PM, Busjack said:

Looks like the CB&Q was the first to use bi-level commuter cars in Chicago. Both CB&Q and C&NW owned  its respective cars, and they were presumably built on their own specs. Budd cars were pretty much all stainless steel.

 

The most prevalent type of stainless steel cars generally did not appear until RTA took responsibility for the railroads, although there are indications that the RI and Milw. Road each had a few while still operating.The Burlington ones (7100s) were from when the WSMTD obtained them. Likewise, the original Highliners were procured by the CSSMTD.

All Budd cars are stainless steel. All others were painted mild steel.

CB&Q were the first to use bi-level cars in Chicago when they received 700-729 in 1950. C&NW were the first to introduce bi-level cab cars for push-pull operation with 8700-8749 in 1959/60.

Milwaukee had Budd 300-341 built 1961/4 which are now 7200-7241 and Budd cab cars 380-399 built 1961/4 which are now 8200-8219. In 1974 Budd cars 342-368 (now 7257-7283) and Budd cab cars 400-413 (now 8225-8238) were delivered.

Rock Island had Budd 140-154 built 1965 which are now 7242-7256 and also Pulman Standard 155-9 built 1970 which were 7867-7871. Cab cars were Budd 110-114 which became 8220-8224 (8222 was r/b as coach 7382) and Pullman Standard 115-119 which were 8764-8768 and rebuilt as coach 7881-7885.

C&NW had St Louis Car 1-7, 10-16 built 1955 which were 7600-7613, 8-9 built 1955 were Club coaches which were 7900-7901. Pullman Standard 17-48 new 1956 which were 7650-7681, 49-150 new 1960/1 which were 7700-7801, 201-210 new 1963 became 7802-7811, 211-224, 226-237 new 1965-7 were 7812-7837, 301-339 new 1970 were 7840-7866. C&NW 225 was originally Parlor Car 6400 built 1958 and r/b 1966 which was 7880. Pullman cab cars were 151-200 built 1959/60 which were 8700-8749 and 251-264 in 1965-8 which were 8764-8768.

RTA was set up in 1974. Budd cars 7100-7121 (for BN) new 1978 and 7284-7381 new 1978-80 along with Budd cab cars 8240-8248 and 8250-8275 new in 1978-80 were delivered before RTA took over direct operation in 1982.

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9 hours ago, strictures said:

I've seen photos of special C&NW bilevels that were used on the Flambeau 400 in Northern Wisconsin.  Did they have similar interiors to the commuter coaches & what happened to them when the C&NW shut down its passenger service by 1971?

12 cars were sold to Amtrak in 1973 all built be Pullman in 1958.

C&NW 700/1/3 were cab cars > Amtrak 9621/2/4

C&NW 702/4-9 were coach cars  > Amtrak 9613/5-20

C&NW 600 was a coach/ lounge-buffet > Amtrak 9600

C&NW 903 was a lounge/ buffet > Amtrak 9601

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6 hours ago, busfan2847 said:

12 cars were sold to Amtrak in 1973 all built be Pullman in 1958.

C&NW 700/1/3 were cab cars > Amtrak 9621/2/4

C&NW 702/4-9 were coach cars  > Amtrak 9613/5-20

C&NW 600 was a coach/ lounge-buffet > Amtrak 9600

C&NW 903 was a lounge/ buffet > Amtrak 9601

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On Friday, I was strolling from Cicero & Montrose to the Blue Line “L” Montrose station. {I usually walk the opposite direction.}

I have rode the Union Pacific Northwest Line numerous times: To Palatine, Barrington, Cary, and Crystal Lake.

But here was something I did not expect to glimpse, particularly during weekday daylight hours. Thankfully, I had my camera handy. This was a short train. Only those two cars were being hauled.

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Does anybody know what industry is being served by this train?

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9 hours ago, pudgym29 said:

On Friday, I was strolling from Cicero & Montrose to the Blue Line “L” Montrose station. {I usually walk the opposite direction.}

I have rode the Union Pacific Northwest Line numerous times: To Palatine, Barrington, Cary, and Crystal Lake.

But here was something I did not expect to glimpse, particularly during weekday daylight hours. Thankfully, I had my camera handy. This was a short train. Only those two cars were being hauled.

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Does anybody know what industry is being served by this train?

No, but it runs nearly every day, returning downtown around 4:45pm. Often pass it just north of Clybourn while on #629 on the Northwest Line.

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