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59 minutes ago, chitowndude84 said:

 

Your best bet is to try facebook marketplace or ebay for a used motorola radio or scanner

I believe Motorola is what they use ? since its a local company (schaumburg) ??

Yea Motorola is what they use I seen a bunch of supervisors with it 

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So I rode the 26 south shore express from NWM hospital to 103rd/Stony Island in the PM does it deadhead back to downtown because mine went back with sign saying “Not in service” 

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6 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

So I rode the 26 south shore express from NWM hospital to 103rd/Stony Island in the PM does it deadhead back to downtown because mine went back with sign saying “Not in service” 

Depends on when you rode, but most likely. I know the change in terminal from 106th/Mackinaw to 103rd/Stony was because buses on the 26 ending their runs went that way anyway, so if it didn't go out of service, it most likely went downtown. Or maybe on a school run for some other route.

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7 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

Depends on when you rode, but most likely. I know the change in terminal from 106th/Mackinaw to 103rd/Stony was because buses on the 26 ending their runs went that way anyway, so if it didn't go out of service, it most likely went downtown. Or maybe on a school run for some other route.

Well it definitely went back to downtown because I checked it 2hrs later and it said 26 South Shore and the bus was 4115 on tracker 

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Cermak (22nd Street) was originally #22 in the original scheme. 21 was Fulton/21st. Clark/Wentworth was Thru-Route 22, which was a different series, and local Clark and Wentworth cars were considered 2, This was soon seen as a problem. So Cermak became 21, Clark/Wentworth kept 22, and Fulton/21st was renumbered 15, which had been its old Thru-route number. This is also why Canal-Wacker bus became 15, as it partially replced the Fulton/21st carline.

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On 6/9/2019 at 2:29 PM, andrethebusman said:

Cermak (22nd Street) was originally #22 in the original scheme. 21 was Fulton/21st. Clark/Wentworth was Thru-Route 22, which was a different series, and local Clark and Wentworth cars were considered 2, This was soon seen as a problem. So Cermak became 21, Clark/Wentworth kept 22, and Fulton/21st was renumbered 15, which had been its old Thru-route number. This is also why Canal-Wacker bus became 15, as it partially replced the Fulton/21st carline.

Saw  4119 over at SS tonight wasn't this the bus that crashed on LSD 6684 was sitting by the gate on the 79th side maybe coming back to service 

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9 hours ago, Shannon CVPI said:

Saw  4119 over at SS tonight wasn't this the bus that crashed on LSD 6684 was sitting by the gate on the 79th side maybe coming back to service 

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Damnnnnn 4119 still waiting for repair? It’s been couple months now

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Now that I think about it, what is the purpose of the 10 going all the way to water tower and not just Og/Union? Who is it serving by going all the way up there, especially when there is existing, competing service that's almost, if not more frequent (146/147/151, maybe the 3)?

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2 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

Now that I think about it, what is the purpose of the 10 going all the way to water tower and not just Og/Union? Who is it serving by going all the way up there, especially when there is existing, competing service that's almost, if not more frequent (146/147/151, maybe the 3)?

A lot of tourists stay on the Mag Mile and the Museum is a tourist destination.   

 

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44 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

Yea 4119 was the one that landed up on the side of sears tower

Oh yea I forgot about that crash I was thinking the one that crashed on into the tree on LSD other then 4167 

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Thinking about the 6400 situation at FG, it reminded me of when WMATA did something similar with their Metrobus Virginia operations. Important to note, while CTA routes tend to be longer than WMATA ones, WMATA has a much bigger service area (almost 3 times the size if my rough calculations were correct)

Years ago (before 2008, I believe), WMATA had three VA garages, Four Mile Run (F), Arlington (A) and Royal Street (R) (which are all about as close together as 74th, 77th & 103rd). Together, these garages served every Metrobus route in VA and they were all served exclusively by Orion VIIs. Now, the Orion VIIs Metrobus had weren't that old, certainly not as old as CTA's 6400s, but bar a small amount based out of Bladensburg (B), the only other CNG garage in the system in DC, every single Orion VII would serve in VA. Some might make it out, only to get sent right back next pick.

This was the system for quite a while; things didn't change until 2008, when Arlington closed and West Ox (V) opened (think closing Chicago and then opening a garage out in Downers Grove). Still, the Orion VII dominance, persisted; it wasn't until some people in DC got fed up with how the DE35LFA's were allocated that they got sent to West Ox and Shepard Pkwy (DC garage that deals with a lot of small, windy, neighborhood routes). This became the system, from about 2008-2014. Meanwhile, older Orion VIIs in DC got sent to VA as WMATA had the C40LFs rehabbed and Orion Vs started the retirement process.

Around 2015-2017, the C40LFs and some Orion VIIs are replaced with XN40s. This is about where CTA is with the 6400s, as not all of the Orion VIIs are gone. They've been consolidated between Bladensburg and the last original VA garage, Four Mile Run. Royal Street closed in 2014 and it's replacement, Cinder Bed Rd opened this year (think closing 103rd and opening a a garage in Homewood or Flossmoor. Funnily enough, the Orion Vs were being retired during this time, the only ones left were at garages with heavy maintenance shops, Bladensburg & Landover, until after a while, a bunch got reactivated and sent to Cinder Bed Rd. Cue complaints about VA having the oldest buses in the fleet (nevermind that some of the Orion VIIs were being replaced with fresh out the shops XN40s). For posterity, here are the buses in VA as of this point in time (circa 2016-2017ish)

  • DE35LFA / West Ox (VA), Shepard Pkwy (DC) / 8-9 years old
  • Orion VII (35ft/40ft) / Four Mile Run (VA), Bladensburg (DC) / 10-12 years old
  • Orion V / Cinder Bed Rd (VA), Bladensburg (DC), Landover (MD) / 16-17 years old

Now, in modern times, more XN40s have come, and WMATA has also been able to expand the fleet in general, and also make some managerial decisions to alleviate concerns:

  • A significant amount of MD buses, primarily DE40LFAs and a few XDE40s, from Landover & Montgomery garages, got relocated to West Ox and/or Cinder Bed Rd 
  • Shepard Pkwy, a DC garage, is located fairly close to where the southern portion of the Beltway crosses from MD into VA and vice versa. Some VA routes that end/begin near the Beltway on the VA side got transferred there. Metroway (our BRT) was even even run from here temporarily). Shepard Pkwy has Xcelsiors (both 40 & 60 ft), some of the last NABIs ever made and older Restyled BRT flyers.
  • The relocation of garages in VA. Before 2008, all 3 VA garages were located fairly close to DC and urban centers in VA, but WMATA routes ran much farther than that. Aside from cheaper land, WMATA was able to dramatically reduce deadhead costs, as many routes were/are peak-directional, and would now end near a garage instead of having to return half of the way back. 4MR is still centrally located, but Cinder Bed Rd & West Ox (a weekday only garage incidentally) are at the far end of WMATA's service area, making it easier to dispatch and accept buses.

Eventually, the 6400s will be gone (or maybe even moved to 77th) and then we'll speculate on what'll replace the 1000s, which I do believe is the largest single order of buses in the US, except maybe something from NY? It'll be interesting to see if we get 1000 of the same bus or many different manufacturers (especially since CTA will put out a bid that all 4 manufacturers can bid on)

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