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Detailed 3200s Rehab Progress

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Adjacent sets grouped together

A Full Rehab involves: 
    - Replacing mylar roller destination signs with LED destination signs (identical to 5000-series)
    - Replace interior fluorescent lights with LED lights (similar to 5000-series)
    - Replace mylar roller run number boxes with LED digits (identical to 5000-series)
    - Rebuild DC propulsion motors and controls
    - Rebuild HVAC units
    - Replace auxilliary inverters (which convert 600VDC to 120VAC and 3-phase for HVAC)
    - Replace seat covers
    - Replace door seals and rebuild door motors

 Car Number | Rehab Status            | Notes
 -----------+-------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  3207-3208 | LED signs               | (LED sign testing cars; first of two pairs to receive them in 2014)
  3213-3214 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3225-3226 | LED signs               | ("Airport Express" test cars; very few seats and have grab-straps like the 5000s)
  3247-3248 | LED signs               |
  3249-3250 | LED signs               |
  3267-3268 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3271-3272 | Full Rehab              |
  3275-3276 | LED signs               |
  3289-3290 | Full Rehab              |
  3293-3294 | LED signs               |
       3295 | LED interior lighting   |
  3305-3306 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3309-3310 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3311-3312 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3313-3314 | Full Rehab              |
            |                         | 
  3325-3326 | LED signs               |
  3331-3332 | LED signs               |
  3339-3340 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3345-3346 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3347-3348 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3359-3360 | LED signs               |
  3361-3362 | LED signs               |
  3363-3364 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3371-3372 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3377-3378 | LED signs               |
  3379-3380 | LED signs               | (LED sign testing cars; second of two pairs to receive them in 2014)
            |                         |
  3389-3390 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3393-3394 | LED signs               |
  3395-3396 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
            |                         |
  3401-3402 | Full Rehab              |
  3403-3404 | LED signs               |
  3405-3406 | LED signs               |
  3407-3408 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3415-3416 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3427-3428 | LED signs               |
  3429-3430 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3441-3442 | LED signs               |
  3443-3444 | Full Rehab              |
  3445-3446 | LED signs               |
  3447-3448 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3451-3452 | LED signs               |
  3453-3454 | LED signs               |

 Total count (LED dest signs): 82
Total count (interior lights): 25
  Total count (LED run signs): 10
     Total count (full rehab): 24

I'm going to move this to its own thread so we can find it easier, because it's a pain to have to page through the 3200 Rehabs thread to find my post and edit which ones have signs ;) 

I'm gonna compile a quick list of the current rehab progress that we know of, now that signs of progress are visible.

Adjacent sets grouped together

A Full Rehab involves: 
	- Replacing mylar roller destination signs with LED destination signs (identical to 5000-series)
	- Replace interior fluorescent lights with LED lights (similar to 5000-series)
	- Replace mylar roller run number boxes with LED digits (identical to 5000-series)
	- Rebuild DC propulsion motors and controls
	- Rebuild HVAC units
	- Replace auxilliary inverters (which convert 600VDC to 120VAC and 3-phase for HVAC)
	- Replace seat covers
	- Replace door seals and rebuild door motors

 Car Number | Rehab Status            | Notes
 -----------+-------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  3207-3208 | LED signs               | (LED sign testing cars; first of two pairs to receive them in 2014)
  3213-3214 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3225-3226 | LED signs               | ("Airport Express" test cars; very few seats and have grab-straps like the 5000s)
  3247-3248 | LED signs               |
  3249-3250 | LED signs               |
  3267-3268 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3271-3272 | Full Rehab              |
  3275-3276 | LED signs               |
  3289-3290 | Full Rehab              |
  3293-3294 | LED signs               |
       3295 | LED interior lighting   |
  3305-3306 | LED signs               |
			|						  |
  3309-3310 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3311-3312 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3313-3314 | Full Rehab              |
			|						  |  
  3325-3326 | LED signs               |
  3331-3332 | LED signs               |
  3339-3340 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3345-3346 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3347-3348 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3359-3360 | LED signs               |
  3361-3362 | LED signs               |
  3363-3364 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
  3371-3372 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3377-3378 | LED signs               |
  3379-3380 | LED signs               | (LED sign testing cars; second of two pairs to receive them in 2014)
            |                         |
  3389-3390 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3393-3394 | LED signs               |
  3395-3396 | Full Rehab              | (except run# box)
            |                         |
  3401-3402 | Full Rehab              |
  3403-3404 | LED signs               |
  3405-3406 | LED signs               |
  3407-3408 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3415-3416 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3427-3428 | LED signs               |
  3429-3430 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3441-3442 | LED signs               |
  3443-3444 | Full Rehab              |
  3445-3446 | LED signs               |
  3447-3448 | LED signs               |
            |                         |
  3451-3452 | LED signs               |
  3453-3454 | LED signs               |

 Total count (LED dest signs): 82
Total count (interior lights): 25
  Total count (LED run signs): 10
     Total count (full rehab): 24
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This is my version of this list. It includes dates which I'm trying to keep up with.

#3200 series LED sign rehab dates (last updated 4/26/17@ 2:19 PM)

#3205-06 (full rehab done 6/24/16)

#3207-08 (LED signs only done 5/9/14) test car for signs

#3213-14 (full rehab done 12/3/15) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3215-16 (full rehab done around 11/21/16; the led run number signs have been completed in this pair 3/17)

#3217-18 ( full rehab done between 6/18/16 and 7/1/16) first quad on the Orange line

#3219-20 (full rehab done around 3/28/17, the LED run number signs have been completed on this pair)

#3225-26 (full rehab done including run number signs 3/7/17)

#3227-28 ( full rehab done between 6/18/16 and 7/1/16) first quad on the orange line

#3231-32 (full rehab done 2/28/17)

#3235-36 (full rehab done 2/22/17 includes run number signs)

#3247-48 (LED signs only done 9/17/15)

#3249-50 (LED signs only done 6/25/15)

#3251-52 (full rehab done 3/14/17 including run number signs)

#3253-54 (full rehab done 3/14/17 including run number signs)

#3263-64 (done with full rehab, 2/12/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3267-68 (done with full rehab, 1/30/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3269-70 (full rehab completed around 6/18/16)

#3271-72 (done with a full rehab, 12/24/15)

#3275-76 (LED signs only done 8/28/15)

#3281-82 ( full rehab 10/13/16; missing rehabbed led run number signs

#3283-84 (full rehab 10/13/16 missing rehabbed led run number signs)

#3285-86 (done with full rehab, 2/4/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3289-90 (done with full rehab 11/18/15)

#3291-92 (done with full rehab 3/23/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3293-94 (LED signs only done 8/28/15) 

#3295-96 (done with full rehab around 8/16)

#3297-98 (done with full rehab 6/18/16; first pair done since 3/23!!)

#3305-06 (LED signs only done 6/8/15) (done with full rehab 3/23/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3307-08 (done with full rehab 3/6/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3309-10 (done with full rehab 1/30/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3311-12 (done with full rehab 3/3/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3313-14 (done with full rehab 1/25/16)

#3315-16 (LED signs only done 6/12/15, done with full rehab 2/2/17)

#3325-26 (LED signs only done 6/8/15)

#3329-30 (done with full rehab 1/12/17)

#3331-32 (LED signs only done 6/8/15)

#3337-38 (fully rehabbed around 11/18/16; the led run number signs have yet to be completed in this pair)

#3339-40 (LED signs only done 6/8/15) (full rehab done 4/5/16) the LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair

#3341-42 (done 3/7/17 with full rehab including led run number signs)

#3343-44 (done with full rehab between 6/18/16 and 7/1/16)

#3345-46 (done with full rehab 1/8/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3347-48 (LED signs only done 9/17/15, full rehab done between 2/17 and 4/17, it has the updated digital run number signs)

#3349-50 (full rehab done 10/13/16; missing rehabbed led signs)

#3357-58 (full rehab done 6/18/16; first pair done since 3/23!!)

#3359-60 (LED signs only done 8/11/15)

#3361-62 (LED signs only done 6/9/15)

#3363-64 (done with full rehab 3/3/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3367-68 (done with full rehab 3/23/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3371-72 (LED signs only done 8/11/15)

#3373-74 (done with full rehab 2/21/17)

#3375-76 (done with full rehab 2/4/16)

#3377-78 (LED signs only done 6/17/15)

#3379-80 (LED signs only done 5/9/14) test car for signs; full rehab done around 12/25/16 missing LED signs on run number box)

#3381-82 (fully rehabbed around 11/21/16; missing the led run number signs)

#3383-84 (done with full rehab between 6/18/16 and 7/1/16)

#3385-86 (done with full rehab 3/14/17 including run number signs)

#3387-88 (done with full rehab 4/26/17 including run number signs)

#3389-90 (Full rehab done around 11/4/16;LED signs only done 6/12/15)

#3391-92 (full rehab done around 11/17/16 minus the run number signs)

#3393-94 (LED signs only done 12/11/15)

#3395-96 (done with a full rehab 1/6/16 the LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.)

#3397-98 (done with full rehab 3/7/17 including run number signs)

#3399-#3400 (done with a full rehab 4/7/16) The LED run number signs have not yet been completed on this pair.

#3401-02 (done with a full rehab 11/24/15)

#3403-04 (LED signs only done 8/29/15)

#3405-06 (LED signs only done 8/28/15)

#3407-08 (LED signs only done 8/28/15)( full rehab done between 6/18/16 and 7/1/16)

#3409-10 (full rehab done around 12/16; missing LED run number box)

#3415-16 (LED signs only done 6/9/15, now fully rehabbed 3/?/17, including led run number signs)

#3421-22 (full rehab 10/20/16 missing LED run number signs)

#3427-28, (LED signs only done 6/10/15)( full rehab done between 6/18/16 and 7/1/16)

#3429-30 (LED signs only done 6/17/15)

#3433-34 (done with full rehab 4/11/17, the LED run number signs have been completed on this pair)

#3441-42 (LED signs only done 11/29/15; full rehab around 11/16)

#3443-44 (done with full rehab 11/18/15)

#3445-46 (LED signs only done 6/12/15)

#3447-48 (LED signs only done 6/11/15)

#3449-50 (done with full rehab 2/6/17 including digital run number signs)

#3451-52 (LED signs only done 8/28/15)

#3453-54 (LED signs only done 12/24/15), (done with full rehab 2/16/17)

#3455-56 (done with full rehab 3/21/17 including digital run number signs)

(164 so far have LED signs retrofitted, 122 cars out of those have been fully rehabbed)

 

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Well it's good that the rehab of the 3200s has started and is moving along. But, I though the mid-life rehab / overhaul was also supposed to include under frame hardware (electrical and HVAC, traction motors, wheel bearings, etc). Or maybe I misread the earlier post about the rehab specs for the 3200s. At any rate, I'm sure that with respect to rehabbing the heavier components on these cars, the Skokie Line shutdown is probably going to put a kink in the overall progress. 

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Well it's good that the rehab of the 3200s has started and is moving along. But, I though the mid-life rehab / overhaul was also supposed to include under frame hardware (electrical and HVAC, traction motors, wheel bearings, etc). Or maybe I misread the earlier post about the rehab specs for the 3200s. At any rate, I'm sure that with respect to rehabbing the heavier components on these cars, the Skokie Line shutdown is probably going to put a kink in the overall progress. 

​It is, and apparently the only thing that is obvious to the riders is the replacement of the signs.

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Well it's good that the rehab of the 3200s has started and is moving along. But, I though the mid-life rehab / overhaul was also supposed to include under frame hardware (electrical and HVAC, traction motors, wheel bearings, etc). Or maybe I misread the earlier post about the rehab specs for the 3200s. At any rate, I'm sure that with respect to rehabbing the heavier components on these cars, the Skokie Line shutdown is probably going to put a kink in the overall progress. 

​They probably can't get the other stuff done without the Shops accessible, but if they have a bunch of LED signs just sitting around, why not install them? They're supposed to be a drop-in replacement so it can probably just be done when they're sitting in a yard if they have the correct employees there.

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Call me crazy but I swear I just saw #5000's on the orange line at quincy. In service.

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Call me crazy but I swear I just saw #5000's on the orange line at quincy. In service.

O.oO.oO.oO.oO.o

You're sure? Like...digital run signs...interior LEDs...AC motors...the whole shebang? I never saw any announcements from the CTA! I guess it's time to tweet.

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Ah, but you didn't look at the CTA "L" rosters thread when I said they were not any there because I went to Midway after that. I saw Orange signs!!  o.O Must have been the sun or something making Purple look Orange. :$ I did get some info though on the #3200's and where they all are on the Orange line. They are mostly in the yard with Kimball signs on them. They are in Brownage service and the rest are Orange line spares.

So don't break open the bubbly just yet!! :P When the #2600 scrapper shows up at Skokie and we have a Yellow line then we can probably celebrate #5000's on the Orange as there will be nothing else left to run it.

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Ah, but you didn't look at the CTA "L" rosters thread when I said they were not any there because I went to Midway after that. I saw Orange signs!!  o.O Must have been the sun or something making Purple look Orange. :$ I did get some info though on the #3200's and where they all are on the Orange line. They are mostly in the yard with Kimball signs on them. They are in Brownage service and the rest are Orange line spares.

So don't break open the bubbly just yet!! :P When the #2600 scrapper shows up at Skokie and we have a Yellow line then we can probably celebrate #5000's on the Orange as there will be nothing else left to run it.

Ah dang...No, I didn't see the other thread...I still can't believe the Orange hasn't seen the 5000s because they have so many extras it only makes sense. I guess they need to scrap some 2600s to make yard space (which I hope is done sooner rather than later...)

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Updated the main post last night with the latest info I have on rehabs. I haven't gotten a confirmation that 299 also has an LED sign...the latest I heard is that only 300 did but I haven't seen either in person recently so I wouldn't know. I haven't seen any odd numbers of digital signs, but I haven't been paying attention.

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Updated the main post last night with the latest info I have on rehabs. I haven't gotten a confirmation that 299 also has an LED sign...the latest I heard is that only 300 did but I haven't seen either in person recently so I wouldn't know. I haven't seen any odd numbers of digital signs, but I haven't been paying attention.

I think you mistakenly inserted #3351-52 having LEDs instead of #3451-52.

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I think you mistakenly inserted #3351-52 having LEDs instead of #3451-52.

Ah, you're right. I haven't confirmed whether or not those have LEDs. I'll take them off for now.

EDIT: Oops, nope, just a typo. I'll fix it.

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Ah, you're right. I haven't confirmed whether or not those have LEDs. I'll take them off for now.

EDIT: Oops, nope, just a typo. I'll fix it.

Far as I know, 3351-3352 are still awaiting repairs from the idiot who went around lowered gates at Kedzie, causing the train to hit their vehicle and derail into the platform.

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Far as I know, 3351-3352 are still awaiting repairs from the idiot who went around lowered gates at Kedzie, causing the train to hit their vehicle and derail into the platform.

How long ago was that?! I never heard about it O.o

Some people...

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How long ago was that?! I never heard about it O.o

Some people...

This was in 2010... I'll see if I can link to the pics later, but here's the archived story....

BTW: 3435-3436 were also damaged when they hit a unmarked police car going around lowered gates at Kedzie, but that train didn't derail and crash into the platform.

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Ah, you're right. I haven't confirmed whether or not those have LEDs. I'll take them off for now.

EDIT: Oops, nope, just a typo. I'll fix it.

No worries. By the way, I'm on the Brown Line as I type this and neither #3299 and #3300 have LEDs. It wouldn't make any sense just to have one mate retrofitted but not both of them.

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No worries. By the way, I'm on the Brown Line as I type this and neither #3299 and #3300 have LEDs. It wouldn't make any sense just to have one mate retrofitted but not both of them.

Ok, somebody must have mistaken 3300 for having LED signs when it didn't.

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I'm going to move this to its own thread so we can find it easier, because it's a pain to have to page through the 3200 Rehabs thread to find my post and edit which ones have signs ;)

I'm gonna compile a quick list of the current rehab progress that we know of, now that signs of progress are visible.

Adjacent sets grouped together

3207-3208: LED signs
3247-3248: LED signs
3249-3250: LED signs
3275-3276: LED signs
3293-3294: LED signs
     3295: LED Interior Lighting
3305-3306: LED signs
3325-3326: LED signs
3331-3332: LED signs
3339-3340: LED signs
3347-3348: LED signs
3359-3360: LED signs
3361-3362: LED signs
3371-3372: LED signs

3377-3378: LED signs
3379-3380: LED signs

3389-3390: LED signs

3405-3406: LED signs
3407-3408: LED signs

3415-3416: LED signs

3427-3428: LED signs
3429-3430: LED signs

3445-3446: LED signs
3447-3448: LED signs

3451-3452: LED signs

Total count (signs): 48
Total count (interior lights): 1

#3403-04 has the new LED signs. It seems alot of cars have them on the brown nowadays. I'm going to have to check them out more thoroughly. 

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#3403-04 has the new LED signs. It seems alot of cars have them on the brown nowadays. I'm going to have to check them out more thoroughly. 

Yeah, they started popping up so fast that I haven't really been able to keep up xD What are the cars with full rehabs so far? 3279-80 and what else?

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Yeah, they started popping up so fast that I haven't really been able to keep up xD What are the cars with full rehabs so far? 3279-80 and what else?

#3279-80 was in the yard untouched as far as i know but it was dark and i could be mistaken. All I've seen is #3289-90 and #3443-44 both of which didn't have the signs done before so they can be added to your list. I might have seen something rehabbed in the kimball shop but i couldn't be sure.

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#3441-42 has updated LED signs now. I've freshened up my list (2nd post of this thread) to reflect the current number of cars retrofitted. I'll see if I can get a few of those before 11/29 dates straightened out. (maybe tonight)

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#3393-94 has led signs now. That train leaving merchandise mart nb right now has both its ends roped off with a chain. They can't be sleet fighting now.

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#3395-96 is now rehabbed brown line and purple line trains are screwed up in the loop.

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It looks like the brown line doesn't have many cars running in service lately. I counted about 13 or 14, 8 car consists yesterday in service and frequency is like 10 minutes. Frequency used to be higher before. I wonder just how many cars are out for rehab? I counted counting the yard around 130 cars, so what then 30-40 cars are out for rehab?

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