5000-series - Updates

[Erin Mishkin Jr. 68]

5155 5156 do not have the new plastic seat covers yet, 5165 5166 and 5183 5184 have the new covers.

[chicagocubs6323 252]

11 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

5155 5156 do not have the new plastic seat covers yet, 5165 5166 and 5183 5184 have the new covers.

These posts are unnecessary.  All 5000 Series cars will eventually get plastic seat bottoms.  

[Erin Mishkin Jr. 68]

2 minutes ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

These posts are unnecessary.  All 5000 Series cars will eventually get plastic seat bottoms.  

Alright, for some reason I just felt like I wanted to get people to know what cars do and do not have them.

[Mr.NewFlyer1051 97]

1 hour ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

These posts are unnecessary.  All 5000 Series cars will eventually get plastic seat bottoms.  

 

1 hour ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Alright, for some reason I just felt like I wanted to get people to know what cars do and do not have them.

I 2nd Erin’s reply 

[Mr.NewFlyer1051 97]

“Roosevelt” sign on a green line

[cta5658 34]

7 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

“Roosevelt” sign on a green line

Linecut between Roosevelt and 35th-Bronzeville-IIT because of FastTracks

[artthouwill 775]

10 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

“Roosevelt” sign on a green line

Sign came into existence during the Red Line Dan Ryan rebuild.  When Red Line trains were rerouted to Ashland/63,  all nonpeak Green Line trains went to Cottage Grove.   During a.m rush, Green Line trains that would've normally gone to Ashland/63 were short turned at Roosevelt, thus the sign you posted.   P.M. rush trains that normally would've gone to Ashland/63 circled the outer loop tracks after leaving Clinton.

The signs now work perfectly for a line cut at Roosevelt. 

The Red Line trains retained their Ashland/63 signs which came in handy during 98th Yard work and the 95th Station rebuild when certain rush hour trips were rerouted to Ashland/63. 

Though Blue Line service hasn't been to Cermak/54 in years, the Blue Line signs remain today.

The Orange Line roller curtains used to have Ford City when there was discussion about extending the line from Midway to Ford City.   I haven't seen any electronic Ford City signs, nor do I know if they exist. 

[Shannon CVPI 41]

Seen a 5000 series on the blue line  on the forest park end 

[chicagocubs6323 252]

3 hours ago, Shannon CVPI said:

Seen a 5000 series on the blue line  on the forest park end 

It's not a 5000 or a 3300.  They are 3200 SERIES CARS.

[Mr.NewFlyer1051 97]

7 hours ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

It's not a 5000 or a 3300.  They are 3200 SERIES CARS.

Yea you’ll never see 5000’s past Racine unless for something special 

[MTRSP1900-CTA3200 409]

12 hours ago, Shannon CVPI said:

Seen a 5000 series on the blue line  on the forest park end

Aww man, you got me excited for a moment!  Those are the standard issue 3200s, but with all the TLC they got with the rehabs, they DO look a lot like the 5000s more than ever.

This is what I look for to tell them apart...

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[Mr.NewFlyer1051 97]

Pink line needs to be fixed this is a picture right before all 4 cars got packed to the door

[Shannon CVPI 41]

3 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

Yea you’ll never see 5000’s past Racine unless for something special 

Oh I know 3300's run on it but I seen the blue seats that's why I thought it was 

[Shannon CVPI 41]

1 hour ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said:

Aww man, you got me excited for a moment!  Those are the standard issue 3200s, but with all the TLC they got with the rehabs, they DO look a lot like the 5000s more than ever.

This is what I look for to tell them apart...

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That's what made me think it was a 5000's 

[Mr.NewFlyer1051 97]

1 hour ago, Shannon CVPI said:

Oh I know 3300's run on it but I seen the blue seats that's why I thought it was 

3200’s on blue have plastic seats all of em as of I remember 

[CTA5750 428]

I love having the 3200s on the Blue Line. Its a nice change the line needed so badly! 

[artthouwill 775]

4 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

Pink line needs to be fixed this is a picture right before all 4 cars got packed to the door

CTA has enough cars to run 6 car consists during rush hour.  That said, I wonder if the packed trains have more to do with the operation as opposed to Line crowding.   

Recently I was on a crowded Pink Line train.  Trains are supposedly every 7 to 8 minutes during rush hour.  But if an inbound Pink gets stuck behind a Green Line train near Ashland, then a Purple Line st Wells, then an Orange Line turning at Van Buren. then has to wait for a Brown Line train to clear Tower 18, that will lead to overcrowding,  especially if the next Pink trai doesn't encounter any or fewer delays.  The same thing happened to me on the Green Line  whereas we were delayed behind a Pink, Purple,  Orange and Brown Line trains before exiting the Loop.  By the time I got off the train,  the next train immediately behind us was also a Green Line train,  but was nearly empty because the train I was on picked up everyone.  In neither case was the leader made to run express.

In the case of the Pink Line,  I think another factor is the two  trains that are used for Blue Line service.   They line up (not at the same time) on the WB track past the mid station crossover at 54/Cermak.  Those trains have to crossover to the inbound track and leave the station before the next inbound Pink can load.  Those two Blue Line trains are deadheads.

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[Shannon CVPI 41]

3 hours ago, CTA5750 said:

I love having the 3200s on the Blue Line. Its a nice change the line needed so badly! 

Yea they do

[Shannon CVPI 41]

8 hours ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said:

Aww man, you got me excited for a moment!  Those are the standard issue 3200s, but with all the TLC they got with the rehabs, they DO look a lot like the 5000s more than ever.

This is what I look for to tell them apart...

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Bet I now know what to look for lol 

[Shannon CVPI 41]

4 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

3200’s on blue have plastic seats all of em as of I remember 

Oh see I didn't know that part see I'm not really on the blue mostly the red green & pink sometimes didn't know that park

[MTRSP1900-CTA3200 409]

2 hours ago, Shannon CVPI said:

Bet I now know what to look for lol 

Or roof boards if an ex-Yellow Line car happens to escape onto the Blue Line from the Loop, but clearance issues might prevent this.

 

6 hours ago, CTA5750 said:

I love having the 3200s on the Blue Line. Its a nice change the line needed so badly! 

It’s a definitely a nice change while we wait for the 7000s. The rehabs will help with the ride quality.

[chicagocubs6323 252]

11 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

Pink line needs to be fixed this is a picture right before all 4 cars got packed to the door

1.  I'm surprised you decided to take the Pink Line.

2. They need 6 cars.  I've experienced this way too much.

[ChicagoNova 67]

7 hours ago, CTA5750 said:

I love having the 3200s on the Blue Line. Its a nice change the line needed so badly! 

Yes, & I would love to see more 3200s on the Blue Line!

[Mr.NewFlyer1051 97]

1 hour ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

1.  I'm surprised you decided to take the Pink Line.

2. They need 6 cars.  I've experienced this way too much.

Pink is my daily 

[MTRSP1900-CTA3200 409]

I've always thought it was weird seeing 4 car Pink Line trains at all the Douglas stations that were rebuilt with 8 car Blue Line trains in mind. There's a lot of empty platform space. I also find it interesting that while the Pink Line was the first line to get the 5000s, it seems that it's also the first line to have them taken away for other lines. When whatever issue was resolved at Tower 18 that was forcing Pink Line trains to run as 6 car sets instead of 4 car sets, the extra two cars needed to deal with Tower 18 were quickly sent to the Green Line. And then came the Blue Line runs...

On 11/20/2019 at 1:59 PM, artthouwill said:

...In the case of the Pink Line,  I think another factor is the two  trains that are used for Blue Line service.   They line up (not at the same time) on the WB track past the mid station crossover at 54/Cermak.  Those trains have to crossover to the inbound track and leave the station before the next inbound Pink can load.  Those two Blue Line trains are deadheads.

Maybe it could be possible to modify the timing of these sets so instead of deadheading through the Douglas stops, the trains stop at these stations before changing to the Blue Line for that service. It would still get riders to the Loop, albeit on a different route after Polk, and would give those who are traveling exclusively on the Douglas Branch another train to chose from. On schedules, rather than printing them like the Blue Line is returning to 54th/Cermak, the two runs could be annotated that they are different from normal runs, similar to how Brownage runs are specially marked.