Same bus number used twice?

[BusHunter]

I was scanning a site that I noticed through one of Busjack's links. Here it is Anyway I was reading through the ex #9800 Flyer buses and noticed the author had put #9822(II). Is that the second bus of that same number or what? This one says it was made in 1985. The bus did have changes made to it such as a digital destination. Weird!! If you look too you will notice there were two #5300's although one was a mechanical bus only. Another interesting thing he states is that only specific numbers on the ex pace buses #701 - #755 ever saw service in CTA service. BTW, I had also heard of an "L" car that had a duplicate number. Anyone know which one?

[Busjack]

With the Flyers, there were reports of some being rejected.

With 5300 and 4400, apparently those were prototypes, not the final buses. We had the discussion about white buses and the like.

With L cars, CERA 115 reports 6271-II, built from the stockpile, after 6271 wrecked, and a new body was placed on the old trucks. Usually with L cars, the undamaged car of a married pair was renumbered to mate with another, such as 6721-6722 and 3457-3458.

[Garysheski]

Indeed there was. Go to www.chicago-l.org and in the index look under "car rosters". from there go to METROPOLIAN WEST SIDE, and scroll down until you find that group of car #'s. There were 50 or 55 cars of this # group. Enjoy the city, wigh I were still there! Gary

[BusHunter]

With the Flyers, there were reports of some being rejected.

With 5300 and 4400, apparently those were prototypes, not the final buses. We had the discussion about white buses and the like.

With L cars, CERA 115 reports 6271-II, built from the stockpile, after 6271 wrecked, and a new body was placed on the old trucks. Usually with L cars, the undamaged car of a married pair was renumbered to mate with another, such as 6721-6722 and 3457-3458.

Not bad for a guy who likes pumpkin buses The whole story of #6271(II) can be found here. Although I interpreted that another ex PCC car was used for the new car which was just numbered #6271. (Just like 6201 and above.) If anyone wants to know what #6000's mismates were remated like #6721 -22 that info is here. Quite a few mismates meaning alot of accidents. As far as the Flyers, this is the first I'm hearing of rejections, but I guess it does make sense. And as far as #5300 I remember that bus (the prototype one) being unnumbered. It's weird that a #4400 is not listed as double on this list.

[Busjack]

,,,And as far as #5300 I remember that bus (the prototype one) being unnumbered. It's weird that a #4400 is not listed as double on this list.

Doing enough searches on this site, I finally found the link to the bus delivery list that had a duplicate 9800, and 9800-1, 9822-1, and 1614 rejected and to Brandon Transit.

To add another, 7412 (New Look) was in the 77th yard while 7412 (MAN) was around, but since the first became 7412-WB, technically they were no longer the same number.

[BusHunter]

Doing enough searches on this site, I finally found the link to the bus delivery list that had a duplicate 9800, and 9800-1, 9822-1, and 1614 rejected and to Brandon Transit.

To add another, 7412 (New Look) was in the 77th yard while 7412 (MAN) was around, but since the first became 7412-WB, technically they were no longer the same number.

Interesting that #9822 seems to be the only bus rebuilt from "the cracks in the frame" problem. #1614 was never rebuilt. More interesting yet, it was rejected before it had any "in service" miles put on it. According to this second list, #9822 was rebuilt in 1986, the last year of production for the D901A. Funny, it seems as if Flyer Industries found a problem with their model that they could not overcome. Surprisingly it didn't destroy the company's image and today it's among the transit elite, although with a different owner than what they had in the 1980's.