artthouwill Posted November 25, 2025 Report Posted November 25, 2025 2 hours ago, jtrussel said: Interesting that this announcement about this specific grant is for buses specifically for Pace West. So where will the buses purchased with the other grants go? Quote
jtrussel Posted November 25, 2025 Author Report Posted November 25, 2025 32 minutes ago, artthouwill said: Interesting that this announcement about this specific grant is for buses specifically for Pace West. So where will the buses purchased with the other grants go? That should wipe out most of west 6323s with north getting electric busses some of its 6700s can replace the remaining 6323s and for the other grants go to the next division that has older Eldorados Quote
artthouwill Posted November 25, 2025 Report Posted November 25, 2025 17 minutes ago, jtrussel said: That should wipe out most of west 6323s with north getting electric busses some of its 6700s can replace the remaining 6323s and for the other grants go to the next division that has older Eldorados In terms of replacing West's 6323s I concur. However, the next oldest set of those Eldorado are at Northwest. I'm not so sure about them getting any new buses while that garage is still in Des Plaines. I waa thinking that the 25500s that will be arriving would go to Southwest with their Eldorado migrating to West along with the 57xxs at North when they receive their electric buses. Quote
Busjack Posted November 25, 2025 Report Posted November 25, 2025 (edited) 10 hours ago, jtrussel said: That should wipe out most of west 6323s with north getting electric busses some of its 6700s can replace the remaining 6323s and for the If this is 0other grants go to the next division that has older Eldorados If this is 36 buse, it isn't enough for the about 53 6323s at W, but there are about 53 6323s at W. The existing orders are for about 66 40' hybrids. If you are assuming at least 17 of those at W, that's still 49 for somewhere else. The question is if any of these replace the 6377-6391 highway buses. The other thing is that Metzger said a couple of board meetings ago that the Wheeling garage will be hybrid first, then battery bus. So, that would be next. The timeline sort of assumes that these buses would be available about the same time as the Wheeling garage, so, notwithstanding the tweet, I think the ones on order are going to W. This assumes that these 36 nuses are in addition to the 80 or so 35 and 40 foot buses already on order. Edited November 26, 2025 by Busjack Although quoed 3 times by @jtrussel, futher reasearch reflected below and in the Gillig Hybrids topic indicates that these 36 are in addition Quote
jtrussel Posted November 25, 2025 Author Report Posted November 25, 2025 2 hours ago, Busjack said: If this is 36 buse, it isn't enough for the about 53 6323s at W, but there are about 53 6323s at W. The existing orders are for about 66 40' hybrids. If you are assuming at least 17 of those at W, that's still 49 for somewhere else. The question is if any of these replace the 6377-6391 highway buses. The other thing is that Metzger said a couple of board meetings ago that the Wheeling garage will be hybrid first, then battery bus. So, that would be next. The timeline sort of assumes that these buses would be available about the same time as the Wheeling garage, so, notwithstanding the tweet, I think the ones on order are going to W. However, this assumes that these 36 nuses are in addition to the 90 or so 35 and 40 foot buses already on order. If it is for those on order, that's fewe for NW. 2 hours ago, Busjack said: If this is 36 buse, it isn't enough for the about 53 6323s at W, but there are about 53 6323s at W. The existing orders are for about 66 40' hybrids. If you are assuming at least 17 of those at W, that's still 49 for somewhere else. The question is if any of these replace the 6377-6391 highway buses. The other thing is that Metzger said a couple of board meetings ago that the Wheeling garage will be hybrid first, then battery bus. So, that would be next. The timeline sort of assumes that these buses would be available about the same time as the Wheeling garage, so, notwithstanding the tweet, I think the ones on order are going to W. However, this assumes that these 36 nuses are in addition to the 90 or so 35 and 40 foot buses already on order. If it is for those on order, that's fewe for NW. So let's say North electric busses are successful there is surplus busses (at least half of North diesel fleet)that can go to west from north. North has about 52-53 6700s that given the routes they operate on definitely have way less miles then west 6300s as far as the highway Eldorados is there a plan to replace the now and with what I dont know 2 hours ago, Busjack said: If this is 36 buse, it isn't enough for the about 53 6323s at W, but there are about 53 6323s at W. The existing orders are for about 66 40' hybrids. If you are assuming at least 17 of those at W, that's still 49 for somewhere else. The question is if any of these replace the 6377-6391 highway buses. The other thing is that Metzger said a couple of board meetings ago that the Wheeling garage will be hybrid first, then battery bus. So, that would be next. The timeline sort of assumes that these buses would be available about the same time as the Wheeling garage, so, notwithstanding the tweet, I think the ones on order are going to W. However, this assumes that these 36 nuses are in addition to the 90 or so 35 and 40 foot buses already on order. If it is for those on order, that's fewe for NW. Quote
Busjack Posted November 25, 2025 Report Posted November 25, 2025 The Pace press release for the FY2025 grant also says that a 2024 No or Low grant paid for 33 hybrid buses being delivered now, so I modify my prior post tothat extent. Also, it being a 2024 grant indicates that hybrid bus grants are not just the current administration. Quote
Busjack Posted November 26, 2025 Report Posted November 26, 2025 Expanding on the immediately prior post, the FY24 No or Low awards list has A Also, the reference to the maintenance facility and mechanics' training indicates one garage, which I surmise is West. Quote
Busjack Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Feb. board agenda includes several items relating to the 36 Low-No buses. Looks like the total cost is $46.8 million, including a $7 million state match, resulting in a cost of $1.3 million per bus. Stuff has sure gone up in price.🤪 Quote
Busjack Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 This was approved at the Feb. meeting, and the presenter said these buses are going to West. Since West had 54 ENCs, I figure that since 92 40' buses have now been approved, the earlier ones are going to NW, as indicated by the Pulse wrap on one of those pictured. Some overofficious commenter tried to get Pace to defer pending a comparative study of CNG buses, but properly got the smackdown. Quote
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