west towns Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Death sentence extended ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 hours ago, west towns said: Death sentence extended ? Hearing results page says it was tabled for a month. Video on this starts about :37. There is an explanation that the RTA wanted it as a demonstration whether Lake Cook could be replicated, hence the intergovernmental agreement point. While the agreement was with the RTA and Hamilton Partners, a couple of tenant companies continued their shuttles. You can look for yourself, but it basically got down to the Chairman saying that someone has to do outreach to the two companies to get them to use the Pace bus, Director Shepley* saying that was backwards in that Pace provides public transportation and if the contract is over, that's it, and Director Mariucci saying he'll get back to the DuPage people and moved to table it for a month. Apparently 30 riders commented that they wanted the bus, but the service standard was 60. __________ *I hope I got the names right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Busjack said: Hearing results page says it was tabled for a month. Video on this starts about :37. There is an explanation that the RTA wanted it as a demonstration whether Lake Cook could be replicated, hence the intergovernmental agreement point. While the agreement was with the RTA and Hamilton Partners, a couple of tenant companies continued their shuttles. You can look for yourself, but it basically got down to the Chairman saying that someone has to do outreach to the two companies to get them to use the Pace bus, Director Shepley* saying that was backwards in that Pace provides public transportation and if the contract is over, that's it, and Director Mariucci saying he'll get back to the DuPage people and moved to table it for a month. Apparently 30 riders commented that they wanted the bus, but the service standard was 60. __________ *I hope I got the names right. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that 60 riders for the day (morning and night) or 60 in the morning and 60 in the evening? If it's for the day, then say you have 3 buses running in the morning and 3 buses in the evening. That amounts to 10 riders per bus, which is feasible. But if you're talking 60 in the a.m. and 60 p.m., then you're talking 20 riders per bus, which to me wouldn't seem realistic. It's almost as if Pace is wanting to get rid of the shuttle bugs because they really aren't making any money off of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 hours ago, rotjohns said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that 60 riders for the day (morning and night) or 60 in the morning and 60 in the evening? If it's for the day, then say you have 3 buses running in the morning and 3 buses in the evening. That amounts to 10 riders per bus, which is feasible. But if you're talking 60 in the a.m. and 60 p.m., then you're talking 20 riders per bus, which to me wouldn't seem realistic. It's almost as if Pace is wanting to get rid of the shuttle bugs because they really aren't making any money off of them. I'm sure 60 total rides, as the usual metric is unlinked trips, and there was a reference to Ventra taps by Invesco employees. Pace doesn't make any money off of anything (except vanpool), but as has been frequently pointed out in these contexts, either it makes service standards (something like half the 36% recovery ratio) or someone has to subsidize it. Again, Marcucci made some offhand comment about Amazon asking for a bus, but if Amazon isn't paying for it and it isn't making recovery ratio, it isn't going to run for too long (notwithstanding that the RTA Act has a South Cook Job Access account). If what RTA was trying to replicate was Lake Cook, that fills up some 40 foot buses as well as some 30 foot ones, and there was a comment in the video that Metra pays 25% of the cost, while Metra wasn't paying anything for this. Again, those such as most recently 625 and 640 were cut or restructured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 10:26 PM, Busjack said: Hearing results page says it was tabled for a month. Strangely, this turned up neither on the agenda or in the board meeting video, so I wonder what's up, other than 465 will be around for another month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Looks like Route 465 is saved: http://www.pacebus.com/sub/schedules/route_notice_detail.asp?Notice_ID=6526 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, rotjohns said: Looks like Route 465 is saved: http://www.pacebus.com/sub/schedules/route_notice_detail.asp?Notice_ID=6526 Didn't say with whom the funding agreement is; I presume it is the company near the newly served entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martey Moose Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Route 465 had a schedule change affective June 12, 2017. The changes included a stop at the visitors entrance of 3500 Lacey. At least 2/3 of the passengers are picked up or dropped off here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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