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103rd's pick, 12/30/07


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What are you talking about?

By contract, CTA operators pick their work (by seniority) four times per year. All operators at all garages picked work that went into effect today.

I'm not sure I understand your question, though.

I think he's asking what routes 103rd still has and doesn't have.

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That has a tendency to happen when a pick occurs, especially with rush hour-only routes.

I was talking to an operator on the 2 the other day and he said that he knew a few drivers who were switching just because the 14 is assigned articulateds but the 2 gets either bad express buses (Novas, New Flyers, Flxible 6000s) or really, really, really slow buses (TMCs, Flxible 5300s). Even though the NABIs are really, really crappy, they're still better than trying to drive an unbelievably slow Flxible down Lake Shore Drive.

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I was talking to an operator on the 2 the other day and he said that he knew a few drivers who were switching just because the 14 is assigned articulateds but the 2 gets either bad express buses (Novas, New Flyers, Flxible 6000s) or really, really, really slow buses (TMCs, Flxible 5300s). Even though the NABIs are really, really crappy, they're still better than trying to drive an unbelievably slow Flxible down Lake Shore Drive.

I know this is going to get off topic a bit, sorry for that, but I'll have to agree only to the NABIs being better than a slow Flxible 5300 on an express run. But Novas and Flyers are a better ride than NABIs especially with flaws brought up in the NABIs are crap thread. Novas are definately quick on most of the express runs I rode them on. And don't underestimate New Flyers, you might not here that motor blasting when it rolls down the drive but they can be fast as well. I'm interested to know what makes Novas and Flyers such bad express buses in your opinion. And I can't say I've really experienced a slow TMC on the Drive. It almost sounds like you're saying only the NABIs can make good express buses since you dismissed just about all the rest of the models that are currently in service.

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I know this is going to get off topic a bit, sorry for that, but I'll have to agree only to the NABIs being better than a slow Flxible 5300 on an express run. But Novas and Flyers are a better ride than NABIs especially with flaws brought up in the NABIs are crap thread. Novas are definately quick on most of the express runs I rode them on. And don't underestimate New Flyers, you might not here that motor blasting when it rolls down the drive but they can be fast as well. I'm interested to know what makes Novas and Flyers such bad express buses in your opinion. And I can't say I've really experienced a slow TMC on the Drive. It almost sounds like you're saying only the NABIs can make good express buses since you dismissed just about all the rest of the models that are currently in service.

So, I guess the New Flyers aren't good express buses because many drivers try to slow down on Lake Shore to keep on schedule, or because drivers just aren't used to driving New Flyers on express routes. I guess the New Flyers aren't bad express buses, it's just the operators I've seen. Also, they pale in comparison to the old MANs.

The Novas, on the other hand, were not meant for express routes. They're not all that fast and I've been on a few that bounced like crazy.

Here's a list of the REALLY, REALLY SLOW TMCs I've ridden on South Lake Shore Drive within the past month or so:

X28

4760

4626

4710

4706

4658

4729

4700

4758

4641

4642

6

4832

10

4702

4725

4753

4734

2

4638

4808

6587

4658

4832

4642

4630

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So, I guess the New Flyers aren't good express buses because many drivers try to slow down on Lake Shore to keep on schedule, or because drivers just aren't used to driving New Flyers on express routes. I guess the New Flyers aren't bad express buses, it's just the operators I've seen. Also, they pale in comparison to the old MANs.

The Novas, on the other hand, were not meant for express routes. They're not all that fast and I've been on a few that bounced like crazy.

Here's a list of the REALLY, REALLY SLOW TMCs I've ridden on South Lake Shore Drive within the past month or so:

X28

4760

4626

4710

4706

4658

4729

4700

4758

4641

4642

6

4832

10

4702

4725

4753

4734

2

4638

4808

6587

4658

4832

4642

4630

I'll admit some of the TMCs are slow, but I haven't really experienced a really slow Nova, and yes I have been on a few that bounced like crazy as well. However, my experience with a slow Nova or Flyer for that matter had more to do with the driver being slow than the bus. Most of my rides on express Novas and Flyers have been pretty fast. I guess our experiences have been different in that regard.

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