Delivery of 1200 Series Cars

[trainman8119]

Rumor has it only 80 of the 170 Electric District cars on order will be delivered. Apparently someone ran out of money and it is being floated that the rest won't (if ever) be delivered for 2 years. If true, the last car would be 1306. Only time will tell for sure.

[Busjack]

Rumor has it only 80 of the 170 Electric District cars on order will be delivered. Apparently someone ran out of money and it is being floated that the rest won't (if ever) be delivered for 2 years. If true, the last car would be 1306. Only time will tell for sure.

There must be a contract with Sumitomo one way or the other, but since this is state Illinois Jobs Now bond money, maybe the state's inability to sell bonds due to its poor credit rating may have had an impact, or the authorization ran out sooner than thought.

If true, one wonders whether Quinn will be on hand in Rochelle when the WARN Act notices go out.

[BusHunter]

Wouldn't that be a breach of contract? (maybe not if they are between options) I thought once they sign a contract they are bound to it. But then again CTA got out of the up to 900 bid entirely. So I guess anything's possible.

[Busjack]

Wouldn't that be a breach of contract? (maybe not if they are between options) I thought once they sign a contract they are bound to it. But then again CTA got out of the up to 900 bid entirely. So I guess anything's possible.

It might be like a Pace contract, which usually says in about five different ways "this is conditioned on us having money."

As you note, it could have involved options, although it can't be like the CTA one, in that some notice to proceed must have been given for car 1227.

Or it might just be rumor.

[Busjack]

Rumor has it only 80 of the 170 Electric District cars on order will be delivered. Apparently someone ran out of money and it is being floated that the rest won't (if ever) be delivered for 2 years. If true, the last car would be 1306. Only time will tell for sure.

Thinking about it last night, I think we went the wrong way on this rumor.

The original Tribune article pointed out that Initially, 80 rail car "shells" are being constructed in Japan and shipped to Rochelle for completion. The remaining 80 will be entirely manufactured at the new plant.

There was a scheduled "time out" while the plant was assembling another order and for the Japanese to inspect the local workmanship on the new shells. NewsRadio 780 said:

The first half of the new cars will be fabricated in Japan but finished in a new plant 80 miles west of Chicago, in Rochelle, Ill. The second half of the order will be built from scratch in Rochelle — but only after Nippon-Sharyo is happy with what it sees.

“The first car that they build from scratch in the Rochelle plant they’re actually going to send back to Japan to make sure everything was done 100 percent the way they intended it to be,” Hardwidge said.

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Delivery of the new cars will halt midway through the order so that Nippon-Sharyo can complete another, smaller order. That is expected to take three months. Final delivery of the new cars, and retirement of the last of the aging Highliners, is expected in May 2015.

[trainman8119]

Thinking about it last night, I think we went the wrong way on this rumor.

The original Tribune article pointed out that Initially, 80 rail car "shells" are being constructed in Japan and shipped to Rochelle for completion. The remaining 80 will be entirely manufactured at the new plant.

There was a scheduled "time out" while the plant was assembling another order and for the Japanese to inspect the local workmanship on the new shells. NewsRadio 780 said:

The first half of the new cars will be fabricated in Japan but finished in a new plant 80 miles west of Chicago, in Rochelle, Ill. The second half of the order will be built from scratch in Rochelle — but only after Nippon-Sharyo is happy with what it sees.

“The first car that they build from scratch in the Rochelle plant they’re actually going to send back to Japan to make sure everything was done 100 percent the way they intended it to be,” Hardwidge said.

....

Delivery of the new cars will halt midway through the order so that Nippon-Sharyo can complete another, smaller order. That is expected to take three months. Final delivery of the new cars, and retirement of the last of the aging Highliners, is expected in May 2015.

A little different explanation, makes some sense. IIRC, all the initial hoopla was 2 cars a week until final delivery which was originally suppose to be sometime next year. So, as usual, someone laid out a lot of BS at the start. BTW, haven't been getting 2 per week, more like maybe 4 per month lately. They really are put together crappy...lots of little annoying problems.

[Busjack]

A little different explanation, makes some sense. IIRC, all the initial hoopla was 2 cars a week until final delivery which was originally suppose to be sometime next year. So, as usual, someone laid out a lot of BS at the start. BTW, haven't been getting 2 per week, more like maybe 4 per month lately. They really are put together crappy...lots of little annoying problems.

So, I guess WBBM/WCFS's point that this wasn't Bombardier didn't hold up.