Busjack Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, MRChiCity said: In other words the drivers union has something to with it? I wonder if this is "picked" work? Thanks Don't know about picked, but there is an issue that North Shore is part of ATU 241, while Northwest belongs to the Teamsters. While some of the garages represented by the ATU have consolidated locals, it would take a representation election to get all garages under one union.I'm pretty sure one union is not going to give its work to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I get that but the Wilmette Fireworks shuttle is run completely by PACE North Shore. Northwest has nothing to do with the service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 22 minutes ago, MRChiCity said: I get that but the Wilmette Fireworks shuttle is run completely by PACE North Shore. Northwest has nothing to do with the service. That was in response to your first point that NS is ordinarily closed on Sunday. Not that Sunday, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I should have been more specific, I was wondering if local 241 had something to do with someone being entitled to the overtime you mentioned? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 7 hours ago, MRChiCity said: I should have been more specific, I was wondering if local 241 had something to do with someone being entitled to the overtime you mentioned? Thanks It would depend on their contract, which the members would have, but only an out of date version is on the 241 site. As I said before, I don't know what the pick process is, and that version is vague (only essentially says what the work week and holiday pay are and that a union rep. has to be present) but there would be grievances if whatever procedure in the contract or "the law of the shop" is not followed. For instance Issue 1 of their Newsletter (I can't find a date) states that an arbitration is pending on violation of the contract with respect to CTA's use of PTOs. If you back to 2010, part of the 20% cutback in service was that there were layoffs from the full time board instead of the part time board. An arbitrator upheld that, but the union now claims there were other violations of the contract. Same thing would happen if the wrong employees were given the opportunity for overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 More information http://www.wilmettepark.org/sites/default/files/FIREWORKS_CelebrationMap%26PACE BUS INFO_2016.pdf I asked PACE HQ why they raised the fair to $4.00 and the Customer service rep didn't have a good answer. In fact I had to explain that this route does not have a route number, and she put on her supervisor who did know about the Fireworks shuttle service. Now why in the world would a PACE CS rep have no idea about this service expect for the CS supervisor? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 14 hours ago, MRChiCity said: Now why in the world would a PACE CS rep have no idea about this service expect for the CS supervisor? Because it is not a regular route, and certainly not on the Pace computer feeding the website.* The $4 was explained before as being 2 cash fares. _________ *Do a search on pacebus.com's route finder for Ravinia Festival. Only thing that comes up there is 213, not 475. A search for Wilmette only yields 213, 421-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Well I just heard on my scanner that four more buses are now leaving the garage and were two were told to go VIA McCormick,Greenbay, and then hang a right at Central to Gilson, now why would they have buses go directly to the park instead of Edens Plaza? Since apparently six o'clock is a pullout time for some of the Buses what time do you think the the pull out time was for the ones that had to be at Edens Plaza at four o'clock? Thank you, oh and not related to buses but Wilmette uses School Crossing Guards to help with traffic control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted July 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Well they just made the announcement that all Wilmette Firework operators can return to the garage after completing there trips. See you in 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I do have a question how common is it for PACE supervisors names over the radio? I ask this because the PACE supervisors at the Wilmette fireworks were doing this. Thank's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Info for 2017 http://www.wilmette.com/download/communicator/2017/Jun-Sept-2017-Communicator.pdf something I have wondered is why they route the bus VIA Lake to 12th to Central instead of Lake to Greenbay, to Central? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, MRChiCity said: Info for 2017 http://www.wilmette.com/download/communicator/2017/Jun-Sept-2017-Communicator.pdf something I have wondered is why they route the bus VIA Lake to 12th to Central instead of Lake to Greenbay, to Central? Thanks Probably avoids some traffic, but not the railroad crossing. That isn't an easy right turn, and traffic could be stuck both approaching Green Bay and then trying to make the left turn off Green Bay to Central. Also, the link says to park free in the Metra lot; it may be an easier bus stop on Lake east of the tracks, instead of either having to cross the tracks to get to Green Bay Road or cross to the south side of Central. That is even though the 422 route is Lake/Green Bay/Central. While it has a couple of meets with Metra, it isn't a feeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Interesting how come they Don't route the 422 down 12th street instead of Green Bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 12 hours ago, MRChiCity said: Interesting how come they Don't route the 422 down 12th street instead of Green Bay? Inertia, not a feeder, and no fireworks traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 How come sometimes they deadhead buses to the park? Instead of to Edens Plaza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 http://www.wilmettepark.org/sites/default/files/Indep. Day POSTER-FLYER_2-sided.pdf the official flyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Infor for 2018 http://www.wilmettepark.org/upload/2018_IndependenceDayBash_handout.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 This year I decided to go to Wilmette to see the buses, and also some fireworks. I took a 422 to Edens Plaza, getting there around 8:35. While pulling in I counted 14 buses lined up. After taking a few pictures I got in line to board. A supervisor who was talking to a passenger mentioned that North Shore and another division were both running buses this year. I thought she said North division, but I didn't see any N buses. I did see 6410, which is (was?) a NW bus, so maybe I misheard "North" instead of "Northwest". All the other buses I remember seeing were from NS. I got on 6724 which left Edens Plaza with about 15 empty seats. That turned out to be the perfect amount for a full seated load after picking up local passengers. Once at the park I walked around taking bus pictures until it was time for fireworks. I found a decent spot to watch that was slightly obscured by trees but away from most of the crowds. Afterward I walked to the purple line instead of getting back on the bus, as I had no need to go back to Edens Plaza. That means I can now add the ticket to my collection of transit memorabilia. It still looks the same as the one @Zol87 posted on page 1 of this thread. Line of buses at Edens Plaza: Bus stop sign at Edens Plaza: Riding 6724: Unloading at Gillson Park: Buses parked on the street during the show: Found an OK spot to watch fireworks: Community vehicle 16407 was parked here: Lots of people packing the buses after the show: Police directing buses and pedestrians: Loaded buses leaving the park: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Nice, and just like I mentioned in another thread the run numbers had a 5 and 3 other numbers wonder if this has to do with operators working OT? Glad you enjoined it, I remember growing up in Wilmette and ridding the old Orion's to Gilson. Have a good night and Happy Independence day!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 How many years has there been a bus shuttle for the fireworks? Did it exist prior to being operated by Pace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 This also illustrates the chasing buses in North Cook is no fun; they're all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Pace831 said: How many years has there been a bus shuttle for the fireworks? Did it exist prior to being operated by Pace? I think it might be a hold over from the WIL-bus days, there has always been a bus shuttle for as long as I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 BTW, @BusHunter says Pace buses are pink with yellow polka dots. Edited to reflect the following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, Busjack said: BTW, @BusHunter says Pace buses are pink with yellow polka dots. Keep me out of your stupid argument, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRChiCity Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Info for 2019 https://www.wilmettepark.org/upload/Fireworks-poster_PROOF.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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