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True plus they charged a round trip fare, could this by how it doesn't fall into the charter category?

I thought about bloviating, but the regulation itself has the answer:

49 CFR 604.3(-c-)(2) defines "charter service" in part as: Transportation provided by a recipient to the public for events or functions that occur on an irregular basis or for a limited duration

and:

(i) A premium fare is charged that is greater than the usual or customary fixed route fare; or

(ii) The service is paid for in whole or in part by a third party.

In this case, it is event service, but the public pays the customary fixed route fare.

Thus, if anyone is to question anything, it would be Ravinia service, where Highland Park "pays the fares." On the other hand, they use depreciated buses, and arguably the service is run by Highland Park rather than Pace, taking it out of the "third party" category.

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40 buses and there was still a major backlog? Wow...

Did you read the article? Besides I called PACE North Shore and spoke to the safety manager and suggested that they barrow additional buses from PACE Northwest for next years show. He siad that he would bring it up when planning for next years show.

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Something I have always wondered is why Arlington Heights does not have a clue about the service? They know about every other event service.

Considering that every suburb has some sort of fireworks, Wilmette would seem to be the exception rather then the rule. For instance, I remember someone asking me to take them to the fireworks for DesPlaines at Oakton Community College, and there was no way to get into the parking lot, even though it was $5.00/car. I then figured the easiest place to see them was at the Glen Metra station, where one got at least the Glenview and Northbrook shows.

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Considering that every suburb has some sort of fireworks, Wilmette would seem to be the exception rather then the rule. For instance, I remember someone asking me to take them to the fireworks for DesPlaines at Oakton Community College, and there was no way to get into the parking lot, even though it was $5.00/car. I then figured the easiest place to see them was at the Glen Metra station, where one got at least the Glenview and Northbrook shows.

Makes sense, I have also wondered why PACE Northshore would sometimes hire Wilmette School bus drivers for the fireworks bus? Could they just be school drivers wanting to make extra money over the summer by working for PACE? I know regular PACE northshore operators also drive the firework shuttle would this be by pick?

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Well I talked to several North Shore operators who have done the Gilson Park fireworks shuttle and they say that it is chaos. The main reason most operators work the shuttle is for the overtime and it was mentioned that sometimes they do not get off work until midnight. Would it be safe to assume that every North Shore operator has worked the fireworks shuttle at least once? I know CTA5750 tried to get a job as a operator at PACE North Shore, if he did and had to work the Gilson Park Fireworks shuttle would this evoke memories of working the 152 Addison or 22 Clark during Baseball seasson? Thanks

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With PACE operating on a Sunday Schedule this year do you think its possible for PACE North Shore to put out almost the whole fleet of buses? Please let me know thanks.

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With PACE operating on a Sunday Schedule this year do you think its possible for PACE North Shore to put out almost the whole fleet of buses? Please let me know thanks.

I'm baffled as to why they're operating a Sunday schedule on Friday, July 3.

People will be working, shopping, going to the doctor that day.

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I'm baffled as to why they're operating a Sunday schedule on Friday, July 3.

People will be working, shopping, going to the doctor that day.

Same thing happened 6 years ago.

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Just got off the phone with PACE North Shore and this will be the only route that they are running on the 3rd, this leads to my original question of how the service is subsidized? Is it subsidized by what is being charged at the fair box? or something ells? 

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Just got off the phone with PACE North Shore and this will be the only route that they are running on the 3rd, this leads to my original question of how the service is subsidized? Is it subsidized by what is being charged at the fair box? or something ells? 

Your spelling aside, it is normal fare (2 times base fare), so since Pace still thinks it runs based on the recovery ratio, this more than meets it.

I don't have this contract, but the Niles and former Downers Grove contracts required a subsidy by the municipality of the first 36% of the cost (in the Niles case it assumed that the village "paid the fares").

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Your spelling aside, it is normal fare (2 times base fare), so since Pace still thinks it runs based on the recovery ratio, this more than meets it.

I don't have this contract, but the Niles and former Downers Grove contracts required a subsidy by the municipality of the first 36% of the cost (in the Niles case it assumed that the village "paid the fares").

Thanks, Plus I would it be safe to assume that this is "picked" work for the operators? Do you think that since no other North Shore Routes will be running that day most  if not all of North Shores fleet will be out for this service? Please let me know thanks 

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I'm baffled as to why they're operating a Sunday schedule on Friday, July 3.

People will be working, shopping, going to the doctor that day.

Just as an aside, while CTA and Pace will be operating holiday schedules, Metra will be operating their regular weekday schedules on Friday.  Also Metra will either hold the last train of the night or add an extra train between 1:15 am and 1:25 am on Friday and Saturday.

 

http://metrarail.com/metra/en/home/service_updates/july-3rd-early-quit-schedules.html

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You cannot view this on PACE web watc FYI. Just heard on the radio,"guys at the park tell me which loaders have left the park" What could he be talking about?

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While I was listing to my scanner I heard on the Radio that one of the buses went the wrong way. After dropping off passengers at Michigan and Washington they are supposed to go East on Washington, South on Sheridan, and east on Central. This bus went North on Centeral toward Lake why would this happen? Do they not have maps for this route? 

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1 hour ago, MRChiCity said:

how come they fare in now $4.00 for this year? Was this because of the PACE fare in-cress?

Yes. If it is a revenue run, you pay the cash fare.

1 hour ago, MRChiCity said:

And why do you think PACE North shore is  running the service this year even though the 3rd falls on a Sunday when the division is normally closed?

Somebody's entitled to the overtime.

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