busfan2847 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yesterday I saw Nippon-Sharyo car with advertisements on the side it was numbered 6194. I thought these cars were 6001-6192? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yesterday I saw Nippon-Sharyo car with advertisements on the side it was numbered 6194. I thought these cars were 6001-6192?6001-6194. 6001-6183 are on Union Pacific and Milwaukee District Lines and 6184-6194 are on BNSF Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twyztdmynd Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 At 2014 trainday... I spotted a car with, what I assume, mounts/holders for a future advertisement... Was sitting on the BN side - track 4 - at Union Station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 6001-6194. 6001-6183 are on Union Pacific and Milwaukee District Lines and 6184-6194 are on BNSF Line. Thanks. Everything I have looked at say there are 192 of them! 6194 with a filled advertizing frame is on UP-W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Thanks. Everything I have looked at say there are 192 of them! 6194 with a filled advertizing frame is on UP-WYeah I saw that myself. I remembered riding 6194 about 3 years ago coming from Aurora. It's interesting how it moved to Union Pacific. Other than that, you're very welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Rode on 6194 this week on UP-NW. The builders plate is 2008, also checked 6191 which is 2005. Looks like 6193 and 6194 were built later than the other 192. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Here is an interesting problem. Metra in 2013 APTA fleet book shows following:2002 1 cab (8501), 1 trailer (6001)2003 27 cabs (8502-8528). 59 trailers (6002-6060)2004 48 cabs (8529-8576), 72 trailers (6061-6132)2005 32 cabs (8577-8608), 60 trailers (6133-6192)Nothing later, and this is a 2013 list. Obviously 6193 and 6194 exist. But what are they? I have a suspicion they are rebuilds of wreck victims that got renumbered. Edited October 15, 2015 by andrethebusman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted October 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Here is an interesting problem. Metra in 2013 APTA fleet book shows following:2002 1 cab (8501), 1 trailer (6001)2003 27 cabs (8502-8528). 59 trailers (6002-6060)2004 48 cabs (8529-8576), 72 trailers (6061-6132)2005 32 cabs (8577-8608), 60 trailers (6133-6192)Nothing later, and this is a 2013 list. Obviously 6193 and 6194 exist. But what are they? I have a suspicion they are rebuilds of wreck victims that got renumbered.Andre6194 has a 2008 builders plate as I mentioned above.Interestingly the 2016 Metra budget says "The 2016 Budget includes funds to start purchasing supplies for the renovation of two more groups of railcars – the first 30 of 302 Nippon Sharyo cars built in the 2000s, and 26 Metra Electric Highliners, also built in the 2000s."This is consistent with the cabs being 8501-8608 and the trailers 6001-6194.Alan Edited October 16, 2015 by busfan2847 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Here is the Metra June 2015 fleet inventory book, acquired via FOIA. 6193-6194 appear to be "penalty cars" that Nippon-Sharyo had to build to cover late penalties. This is becoming a rather common practice - instead of money changing hands, an extra car or two gets produced. Happened with Northstar commuter rail in Minneapolis - Bombardier built an extra coach. Quarterly Rolling Stock Report 06_30_15.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metx161 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Here is the Metra June 2015 fleet inventory book, acquired via FOIA. 6193-6194 appear to be "penalty cars" that Nippon-Sharyo had to build to cover late penalties. This is becoming a rather common practice - instead of money changing hands, an extra car or two gets produced. Happened with Northstar commuter rail in Minneapolis - Bombardier built an extra coach.Quarterly Rolling Stock Report 06_30_15.pdfThanks for posting this report and sharing it with us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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