4000-series DE60LF - Updates - Rehabs

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

And to add on to that, is there a updated list of all DE60LF's that are permanently retired from service?

[Bus1807]

1 minute ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

And to add on to that, is there a updated list of all DE60LF's that are permanently retired from service?

Yeah because buswatch doesn’t list any 4000’s that are retired.

[Busjack]

2 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Yeah because buswatch doesn’t list any 4000’s that are retired.

As I noted when the 8-year old was relying on Buswatch, it doesn't establish that any bus is retired, but only the last day it tracked.

Based on experience on this forum, the only was to get this information is an official roster, either internally or through an FOIA request.

[Bus1807]

4 minutes ago, Busjack said:

As I noted when the 8-year old was relying on Buswatch, it doesn't establish that any bus is retired, but only the last day it tracked.

Based on experience on this forum, the only was to get this information is an official roster, either internally or through an FOIA request.

Eh, you’re right. I shouldn’t be relying on buswatch for information, that app doesn’t automatically settle when a bus retires anyway.

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

so they might be digging out a possible 4xxx out of retirement with that being #4178, saw it on hoists getting worked on which surprised me considering its rusted by the rear door 

[Bus1807]

5 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

so they might be digging out a possible 4xxx out of retirement with that being #4178, saw it on hoists getting worked on which surprised me considering its rusted by the rear door 

Yeah I heard they are dragging a lot of 4000’s out of retirement, most haven't returned to service yet.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

33 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

Yeah I heard they are dragging a lot of 4000’s out of retirement, most haven't returned to service yet.

they should actually fix 4151 and get that back on the road

[Bus1807]

43 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

they should actually fix 4151 and get that back on the road

Didn’t that bus have severe rust and mechanical issues?

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

6 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Yeah I heard they are dragging a lot of 4000’s out of retirement, most haven't returned to service yet.

so far it’s 4178 and 4186 being worked on

[Bus1807]

1 hour ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

so far it’s 4178 and 4186 being worked on

I remember #4186, forgot what garage it was apart of though.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

7 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Didn’t that bus have severe rust and mechanical issues?

#4190 was actually worse but they fix that up

[Bus1807]

4 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

#4190 was actually worse but they fix that up

I think I rode #4190 when it broke down at one point on the 6.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1 minute ago, Bus1807 said:

I think I rode #4190 when it broke down at one point on the 6.

#4190 appears to be in bad shape, it was taken out of retirement just to come back to service in early 2025.

[Master58]

I don't know why they don't just bring back #4105, #4181 and #4192 back in service.  Those don't appear to have any rust or frame damage the last time I saw them.  

[Bus1807]

7 minutes ago, Master58 said:

I don't know why they don't just bring back #4105, #4181 and #4192 back in service.  Those don't appear to have any rust or frame damage the last time I saw them.  

They had bad mechanical issues.

[Bus1807]

#4016 has gone MIA.

[Bus1807]

I just saw #4061 getting towed somewhere, that bus retired like 3 years ago on the 21??

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

On 10/17/2026 at 10:58 AM, Bus1807 said:

Does anyone know if #4199 retired? It was last seen on the 36 a couple months ago.

#4199 on 147 not tracking

[Bus1807]

Just now, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

#4199 on 147 not tracking

Thanks!

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

16 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

#4016 has gone MIA.

4016 is on the apron at SS, sits next to 1386 and 8711 and 1657

[Bus1807]

52 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

4016 is on the apron at SS, sits next to 1386 and 8711 and 1657

So it’s back at SS after returning to service for only a few days? 😂 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

On 10/26/2026 at 2:56 PM, Bus1807 said:

I just saw #4061 getting towed somewhere, that bus retired like 3 years ago on the 21??

Not too positive if you saw #4061 on a tow, it’s still sitting at the same spot on the south fence that I saw it in september

[Bus1807]

1 hour ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Not too positive if you saw #4061 on a tow, it’s still sitting at the same spot on the south fence that I saw it in september

Hm yeah maybe you’re right. It was a bus that definitely started with #40XX. I probably mistook it for #4061.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

#4003 may no longer be seeing service, it's at SS, and it has a similar rust spot to #4002.

[Bus1807]

1 hour ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

#4003 may no longer be seeing service, it's at SS, and it has a similar rust spot to #4002.

Damn I thought #4002 was returning. Also #4003 is one of my favorite Kedzie buses, sad to see it go.