YoungBusLover Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 23 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said: Has 1980 been seen out there? It's at SS under "HAS" which is short for Hold at Shop. The reasons can be a variety of things. Sourcing parts, inspections, preforming routine maintenance, prepping the bus for retirement etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 51 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said: It's at SS under "HAS" which is short for Hold at Shop. The reasons can be a variety of things. Sourcing parts, inspections, preforming routine maintenance, prepping the bus for retirement etc etc. Oh ok I see now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 1653 is successfully back in service. Are 1804 1726, or 1867 spotted at SS, boneyard, or FG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrussel Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 If cta doesn't get the state funding it needs, will this be the final nail in the coffin for the newflyers Without funding I don't think cta will put the money into those supposed 400+ newflyers. Kinda like the 2010 cuts when the flxibles were retired with many still having alot of life left in them due to having been refurbished a year or 2 prior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 7 hours ago, jtrussel said: If cta doesn't get the state funding it needs, will this be the final nail in the coffin for the newflyers Without funding I don't think cta will put the money into those supposed 400+ newflyers. Kinda like the 2010 cuts when the flxibles were retired with many still having alot of life left in them due to having been refurbished a year or 2 prior The difference is the #1000s and #4000s came in together between 2006-2009 to replace the entire fleet of #4400s, #5300s, #5800s and #6000s.#7500s saved the #6000s from getting knocked off sooner. The #6000s would of gotten retired initially by 2014 as the #7900s came in along with the first few batches of #6400s had the budget cuts not taken place. Fast forward to now the 600 #8350s were ordered to replace the last remaining #6400s which before the fall of 2019 was still around 70-75 or so and the first 500 or so #1000s depending on there condition because as always the worst buses get knocked off mixed in with mileage, warranty, and overall age. That process was fast tracked to the seemingly younger 3rd/ 4th option #1000s due to rotting of there carbonated steel frames. Currently about 320 #1000s have been retired with another 70 - 100 slated for retirement in the next 12 - 18 months. So long story short budget cuts would of sideline the oldest equipment anyway regardless if the funds were acquired for a 2nd overhaul of the #1000s. I wouldn't put it past CTA to sideline another 220 buses within the next 7 months barring the budget cuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Budget cuts or no, their consistent stated plan was to keep no more than 430 New Flyer D40s. I don't see how state funding from either side of the coin changes that by much. Plus folks keep pressing against that panic button regarding what the state might do when we don't even know what the veto session holds. Yes, it's going to be a bit tougher because of the higher vote threshold, but the Illinois legislature has still shown a willingness to address the issue. That's the huge difference between us and what's facing SEPTA and the other Pennsylvania TAs. PA's state senate is showing close to zero interest to even meet to address the transit shortfall there on the premise that SEPTA is bad with its money, when the truth of the matter is that agency is a hell of a lot better on that front than CTA, Metra and Pace when comparing the numbers. Now getting back to Illinois, the legislature's clear and consistent position has been that cracking down and reforming the governance of Chicago area transit had to be a part of any solution that they hash out. They've hammered out a direction on the governance part. They just need to get it passed into law. Now I'm ready to give them space to attempt to crack the financial part and see if they can accomplish it within the span of the veto session before I hit the panic button just yet. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 23 hours ago, jtrussel said: If cta doesn't get the state funding it needs, will this be the final nail in the coffin for the newflyers Without funding I don't think cta will put the money into those supposed 400+ newflyers. Kinda like the 2010 cuts when the flxibles were retired with many still having alot of life left in them due to having been refurbished a year or 2 prior I don’t think the budget shortfall will hinder the CTA from sinking money into rehabbing the 400 remaining 1000s they keep. But the upcoming cuts are way worse to ever imagine compared to how the cuts forced CTA to retire the 6000s 15 years ago along with eliminating a few bus routes and reducing train service by 25%. However there is a strong possibility that lawmakers will return for a special session in the summer or the fall veto session to address the issue but it will be much harder as it will require a 3/5ths vote instead of a majority. If they would had rushed to the table at the end of March after this was first issued, they could have had a higher chance of securing the funding by May 31st to defeat the fiscal cliff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 #1001 is now an Instruction bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1279 Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 #1073 is now a instruction bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 #1087 is now an instruction bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 How much instruction buses will there be once they finish adding everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 51 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said: How much instruction buses will there be once they finish adding everything? I believe back in 2019 each garage no more than 2 #6400 Instruction buses. So far we have about 8 - 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 If each garage does about 2 each, that should be about 14 of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 So then this means: Forest Glen: 1073, TBD North Park: 1002, 1587 Chicago: 1000, 1001 Kedzie: 1208, TBD 74th: 1024, TBD 77th: 1087, TBD 103rd: 1195, TBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 I've compiled a list of Flyers that were recently retired and or placed on the chopping block as of 6/19/25. Buses #s bolded are buses that have been taken off the active roster with retirement pending. #1701 #1743 #1769 Held at SS #1839 #1860 Held at SS (Pending work) #1880 Held at SS (Pending work) #1891 Held at SS (Pending work ) #1900 #1906 Held at C #1912 Held at C via SS #2000 Held at SS (Pending) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1279 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: I've compiled a list of Flyers that were recently retired and or placed on the chopping block as of 6/19/25. Buses #s bolded are buses that have been taken off the active roster with retirement pending. #1701 #1743 #1769 Held at SS #1839 #1860 Held at SS (Pending work) #1880 Held at SS (Pending work) #1891 Held at SS (Pending work ) #1900 #1906 Held at C #1912 Held at C via SS #2000 Held at SS (Pending) #1860, #1880, and #2000 are coming back soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 1880 has returned on the 148. based on buswatch, 1726 1804 1867 1914 and 1758 are officially retired but besides the last two they haven’t been spotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted Monday at 04:16 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:16 PM #2000 has been retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:48 PM This brings us down to 20 Allison's left if 1980 ends up being retired. If 1980 returns the number will be 21. 1932, 1941, 1950 1956 1957, 1962 1964 1966 1967 1968, 1970 1975 1979, 1982, 2001 2006(MIA) 2012 2019 2024 2025 is what's left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1279 Posted Monday at 04:55 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:55 PM 38 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said: #2000 has been retired. 🤧💔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted Wednesday at 01:43 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:43 AM On 6/23/2025 at 11:48 AM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said: This brings us down to 20 Allison's left if 1980 ends up being retired. If 1980 returns the number will be 21. 1932, 1941, 1950 1956 1957, 1962 1964 1966 1967 1968, 1970 1975 1979, 1982, 2001 2006(MIA) 2012 2019 2024 2025 is what's left #1701,#1743,#1839, #1900, and #1980 have also retired all within this month just to reiterate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted Wednesday at 03:13 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:13 AM 1 hour ago, YoungBusLover said: #1701,#1743,#1839, #1900, and #1980 have also retired all within this month just to reiterate. Got it now that 1980 is off the roster we're left to 20. 1912 has returned to service today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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