Garage route bus assignments

[pudgym29]

I searched and searched. I still expect to see a response subsequently reading, "Why didn't you just...". I (and likely you) know there are Authority bus routes where it wants to assign its newest buses (the #8350+ new Nova buses). What I've been led to believe is that certain routes like #56 Milwaukee, #54 Cicero, and #53 Pulaski have codicils to run only the 8350+ vehicles. But - Tuesday night, I was out-&-about @ Hopewell Brwg. on N. Milwaukee Ave., and I definitely viewed two New Flyer buses running on #56 Milwaukee. (Do not DARE to give me snark, "Are you sure they weren't on #76 Diversey?" They were not.)  Anyhow, I go through all this preconditioning to query, "Is this Authority codicil now outdated? Can formerly-preferred "Nova-only" bus routes now get assigned New Flyers?" Members currently at Authority garages, please respond affirmatively or negatively.

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

5 hours ago, pudgym29 said:

I searched and searched. I still expect to see a response subsequently reading, "Why didn't you just...". I (and likely you) know there are Authority bus routes where it wants to assign its newest buses (the #8350+ new Nova buses). What I've been led to believe is that certain routes like #56 Milwaukee, #54 Cicero, and #53 Pulaski have codicils to run only the 8350+ vehicles. But - Tuesday night, I was out-&-about @ Hopewell Brwg. on N. Milwaukee Ave., and I definitely viewed two New Flyer buses running on #56 Milwaukee. (Do not DARE to give me snark, "Are you sure they weren't on #76 Diversey?" They were not.)  Anyhow, I go through all this preconditioning to query, "Is this Authority codicil now outdated? Can formerly-preferred "Nova-only" bus routes now get assigned New Flyers?" Members currently at Authority garages, please respond affirmatively or negatively.

56: they only want new buses out on that street because primarily it passes right next to 567, so they don’t want flyers out there BUT you’ll see one here and there on the 56 since some run paddles have other streets mixed in with milwaukee and the operator is scheduled to keep their buses for 2nd half if it’s a pull out/pull in run, the same thing goes for 91 Austin…..”Flyer Only” route after last years many incidents involved kids throwing boulders off the over pass between cortland and dickens damn near killing a operator, management and management from the maintenance side made it a permanent thing to make that route all flyers since all the incidents happened to the novas 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Now that makes sense and explains why there’s a flyer on the 85A every morning with the 91 block. Now what’s the reason for putting the 90 and the rest of the 88/68/81W/85A all novas (except 68 school runs which often uses flyers that move to other routes)?

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

49 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Now that makes sense and explains why there’s a flyer on the 85A every morning with the 91 block. Now what’s the reason for putting the 90 and the rest of the 88/68/81W/85A all novas (except 68 school runs which often uses flyers that move to other routes)?

90: due to the blue line construction, once that is done flyers will be back out there, the feeder streets are considered “priority” so they want new buses out there that breakdown less

[Busjack]

8 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

56: they only want new buses out on that street because primarily it passes right next to 567

It's probably more that 56 is the only FG route that goes downtown. Way before HQ was at 567, albino New Looks did not run on 56.

[Newflyer1056]

7 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

90: due to the blue line construction, once that is done flyers will be back out there, the feeder streets are considered “priority” so they want new buses out there that breakdown less

The reason is that the turn on Harlem and talcott is considered a risk for the flyers due to the bad turning radius. lol I made it every time without hitting the curb but management decided it would be safer to use novas only because of their turn radius. I tried pulling out a flyer on a Saturday morning and did one full trip before a supervisor stopped me and made me switch with a Addison pull out.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1 hour ago, Newflyer1056 said:

The reason is that the turn on Harlem and talcott is considered a risk for the flyers due to the bad turning radius. lol I made it every time without hitting the curb but management decided it would be safer to use novas only because of their turn radius. I tried pulling out a flyer on a Saturday morning and did one full trip before a supervisor stopped me and made me switch with an Addison pull out.

What’s crazy is that this is actually running on Harlem right now

[artthouwill]

1 hour ago, Newflyer1056 said:

The reason is that the turn on Harlem and talcott is considered a risk for the flyers due to the bad turning radius. lol I made it every time without hitting the curb but management decided it would be safer to use novas only because of their turn radius. I tried pulling out a flyer on a Saturday morning and did one full trip before a supervisor stopped me and made me switch with a Addison pull out.

From motorcoach experience,  Prevost had better turning radius than MCIs.  In fact,  Eagles and VanHools do too .  It would be reasonable to expect Novas to turn tighter than New Flyers.  The sad part is that these New Flyers predate NFI's ownership of MCI..   NEITHER company was known for making very tight turns unless you first swung out.  Eagles had the best turn radius ever.

[Newflyer1056]

1 hour ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

What’s crazy is that this is actually running on Harlem right now

lol if it was me I wouldn’t have made it to fallback with this. But I love flyers on Harlem you can make up time easily on that route with a flyer 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1 hour ago, Newflyer1056 said:

lol if it was me I wouldn’t have made it to fallback with this. But I love flyers on Harlem you can make up time easily on that route with a flyer 

Yeah I prefer riding flyers over novas anyway plus this driver was on his second half so he actually pulled in 1600, and he pulled it out as well.