NYC TransitMan Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hello! I'm Ray from www.transitstuff.com I'm writing because I've been putting bus rosters up in our forum and I would like to recognize the Chicago Transit Authority (or in this case...this website). I've looked on your website and it lists the garage assignments BUT it does not list each bus by detail. Can someone provide that information to me? Of course, credit WILL be given to this website since I've discovered this. Check out www.transitstuff.com and click on the thread " Other U.S. Transit, Intercity & Charter Operations" and you guys will see what I mean. Also, can you guys provide a PACE bus Depot-by-Depot bus roster as well. I GREATLY appreciate it. Nice New Flyer D40LF you guys have out there. We have NOTHING but Orion Hybrids here. LOL! Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Considering that 550 buses are in the process of being received by CTA (New Flyer options 3, 4, and DE60LF), 600 retired, and such stuff as trying to consolidate makes at particular garages, plus then moving the buses around again, that's pretty much impossible (even if some claim to have lists, they can't be accurate under those circumstances). You can look at the futile efforts some have made to list how many 4400s are left; the only possibly accurate statement is that about half now, and none by the end of the year. Pace's situation isn't much better. There seems to be an ongoing effort to use 2600s to displace 6600s, which then go on to other garages to retire 2200 series Ikarus (and 2292 series Orions being advertised as no longer serviceable). Even without that, a bus could be at North, then North Shore, Northwest, and finally to Academy (a contractor) in a matter of a few months. Hence, even if someone could give you an accurate snapshot today, it would be no good tomorrow. Also, CTA has garages, not depots. Pace has divisions. But just a semantic quibble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 By the way www.transitstuff.com looks like one of those parked sites. Are you real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTA42 Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Ray is real; the site should be http://www.ttmg.org/phpbb/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Ray is real; the site should be http://www.ttmg.org/phpbb/index.phpO.K, but then he should use the correct URL. Also, I believe that "x68FloralPark" got the correct response, or at least a responsive enough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hello! I'm Ray from www.transitstuff.com I'm writing because I've been putting bus rosters up in our forum and I would like to recognize the Chicago Transit Authority (or in this case...this website). I've looked on your website and it lists the garage assignments BUT it does not list each bus by detail. Can someone provide that information to me? Of course, credit WILL be given to this website since I've discovered this. Check out www.transitstuff.com and click on the thread " Other U.S. Transit, Intercity & Charter Operations" and you guys will see what I mean. Also, can you guys provide a PACE bus Depot-by-Depot bus roster as well. I GREATLY appreciate it. Nice New Flyer D40LF you guys have out there. We have NOTHING but Orion Hybrids here. LOL! Ray I love your NYC RTS fleet, Green Lines and Triboro Coach buses. Last time i was in NY in 2004 I stood out on 34th across from the ESB (while the wife was kept busy inside one of NYC finest clothing stores!) I took the opportunity and filmed many buses passing in a 20 min span. I must have got about 30 or 40 buses running back and forth from NYC, Green and Triboro. I later spent some time at Times Square and got quite a few buses there too. I liked the old GMC RTSs from Triboro and their Classics. Also got a couple of Coach USA MCIs. One of the days I was there I was walking down West Side Hwy near Ground Zero and I spotted one of our exPace Orion I buses #8856. That was pretty cool to catch, it still had the "Fleet Watch" bumper sticker still displayed, the old Pace no. of course. I later found out that a lot of our exPace Orion I buses made their way to the NYC area. NYC is not only good to film subway and commuter trains but also buses of various models and companies. I was very impressed, cant wait to go back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTA42 Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I love your...Green Lines and Triboro Coach buses...I was very impressed, cant wait to go back!! You might be disappointed; those companies aren't around anymore. Some of their buses are still around, albeit repainted into MTA blue & white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 You might be disappointed; those companies aren't around anymore. Some of their buses are still around, albeit repainted into MTA blue & white. Did they consolidate into the MTA system? What about Long Island Bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Did they consolidate into the MTA system? What about Long Island Bus?It takes a lot of web following to try to figure out what happened. Mayor Bloomberg had the idea that NYC would save money and improve service if it bought out the private franchise carriers that NYC was subsidizing, and then turn the operation over to the MTA. However, it did not turn out as well as thought, as NYC still has to subsidize those operations and got stuck with leases on the depots and the like. Here is a reference to a NYT article. There was some talk (especially on Wikipedia, not known for its accuracy) about MTA reorganizing into Bus, Rapid Transit, Bridges and Tunnels, etc. divisions, rather than the current setup of NYCTA, MTA Bus (which contains the former franchise operations), and LI Bus, the various commuter railroads, etc. However, the MTA Home Page reflects the current organization structure, and the "Bus Company" menu provides some history about the merger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTA42 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 There was some talk (especially on Wikipedia, not known for its accuracy) about MTA reorganizing into Bus, Rapid Transit, Bridges and Tunnels, etc. divisions, rather than the current setup of NYCTA, MTA Bus (which contains the former franchise operations), and LI Bus, the various commuter railroads, etc. However, the MTA Home Page reflects the current organization structure, and the "Bus Company" menu provides some history about the merger. There was a reorganization plan in 2002 (link to press release) to combine the LIRR and Metro North into MTA Rail Road, NYCTA Division of Subways and SIRTOA into MTA Subway, and NYCTA Division of Buses, MaBSTOA, and MSBA into MTA Bus. Bridges & Tunnels would remain unchanged (though possibly officially renamed from Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority to MTA Bridges & Tunnels), and capital construction for all four companies would be managed by MTA Capital. Note that this was prior to the absorption of the NYCDOT-subsidized private bus companies into today's MTA Bus. The just-announced plan to "streamline bus operations" (link to press release) appears to be the first step in the 2002 reorganiztion plan, merging NYCTA Division of Buses, MTA Bus Company, and MSBA into one entity. The press release doesn't mention MaBSTOA, but I'm guessing that "New York City Transit Bus" means both NYCTA and MaBSTOA. Rumors have abounded for several years that the ultimate goal is to create a Regional Bus Company, which would include Westchester County Bee-Line operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC TransitMan Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Considering that 550 buses are in the process of being received by CTA (New Flyer options 3, 4, and DE60LF), 600 retired, and such stuff as trying to consolidate makes at particular garages, plus then moving the buses around again, that's pretty much impossible (even if some claim to have lists, they can't be accurate under those circumstances). You can look at the futile efforts some have made to list how many 4400s are left; the only possibly accurate statement is that about half now, and none by the end of the year. Pace's situation isn't much better. There seems to be an ongoing effort to use 2600s to displace 6600s, which then go on to other garages to retire 2200 series Ikarus (and 2292 series Orions being advertised as no longer serviceable). Even without that, a bus could be at North, then North Shore, Northwest, and finally to Academy (a contractor) in a matter of a few months. Hence, even if someone could give you an accurate snapshot today, it would be no good tomorrow. Also, CTA has garages, not depots. Pace has divisions. But just a semantic quibble. Okay, NYC Transit has over 4500 buses that are constantly moving around as well AND I update the roster almost everyday...so I don't mind "keeping up with the Joneses". Thanks for your help though. It's appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC TransitMan Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 O.K, but then he should use the correct URL. Yes I am real and I'm sorry for not using the right URL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC TransitMan Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Just curious to know...how many Flxible Metro-B 40102 #5000s are left in service? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Just curious to know...how many Flxible Metro-B 40102 #5000s are left in service? Thanks in advance. Look at the What's left for #5300 Flxibles thread, and they are 5300s, not 5000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC TransitMan Posted April 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Considering that 550 buses are in the process of being received by CTA (New Flyer options 3, 4, and DE60LF), 600 retired, and such stuff as trying to consolidate makes at particular garages, plus then moving the buses around again, that's pretty much impossible (even if some claim to have lists, they can't be accurate under those circumstances). You can look at the futile efforts some have made to list how many 4400s are left; the only possibly accurate statement is that about half now, and none by the end of the year. Pace's situation isn't much better. There seems to be an ongoing effort to use 2600s to displace 6600s, which then go on to other garages to retire 2200 series Ikarus (and 2292 series Orions being advertised as no longer serviceable). Even without that, a bus could be at North, then North Shore, Northwest, and finally to Academy (a contractor) in a matter of a few months. Hence, even if someone could give you an accurate snapshot today, it would be no good tomorrow. Also, CTA has garages, not depots. Pace has divisions. But just a semantic quibble. Um...presenting the Chicago Transit Authority Depot-by-Depot By Roster. Enjoy guys and please post any changes on our forum at www.ttmg.org http://www.ttmg.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Rosters Follow the links and enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageSoul Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 And to add to Ray's post, the information on the roster is from Official CTA documents dated April 1st of this year. So its as accurate as its gonna get for right now. However we do appreciate that if you spot a movement or something that you let us know so that we CAN adjust it on the roster to keep as fresh as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 And to add to Ray's post, the information on the roster is from Official CTA documents dated April 1st of this year. So its as accurate as its gonna get for right now. However we do appreciate that if you spot a movement or something that you let us know so that we CAN adjust it on the roster to keep as fresh as possible. Here's a few to make it up to date. #1858 at Chicago, #1548 - #1550 at 77th not NP and 103rd, #1581 - #1603 odds are at 74th, #1580 - #1586 evens are at 74th, Up to #4135 at NP on street, but up to #4141 at NP Garage will most likely go out early next week, Chicago also has #1981 - #2017, 103rd has #2018 - #2020. Also you list #6312 twice and the numbers are a bit out of sequence there under the 74th tab. You seem to have a nice site, I like the way the roster page is set up. It would be even nicer if there were a "L" roster too, but with your site being bus affiliated maybe you are not interested in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nflyer22 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Here's a few to make it up to date. #1858 at Chicago, #1548 - #1550 at 77th not NP and 103rd, #1581 - #1603 odds are at 74th, #1580 - #1586 evens are at 74th, Up to #4135 at NP on street, but up to #4141 at NP Garage will most likely go out early next week, Chicago also has #1981 - #2017, 103rd has #2018 - #2020. Also you list #6312 twice and the numbers are a bit out of sequence there under the 74th tab. You seem to have a nice site, I like the way the roster page is set up. It would be even nicer if there were a "L" roster too, but with your site being bus affiliated maybe you are not interested in this. Here's a little more accuracy thrown into the heap #1160 and #1161 are at Kedzie; #1160 is currently on the 52 right now, and I saw #1161 yesterday on the 8 quite a few times while I was at the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC TransitMan Posted April 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 It would be even nicer if there were a "L" roster too, but with your site being bus affiliated maybe you are not interested in this. Th website is not just buses only. We have an extensive rail section and such. Maybe the rail depot-by-depot roster was not available so that why the bus roster was put up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctafan630 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Th website is not just buses only. We have an extensive rail section and such. Maybe the rail depot-by-depot roster was not available so that why the bus roster was put up. What happened to the CTA Green line? There are L cars listed for all lines but the green line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageSoul Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah, that was a error in rushing, I meant to put Green under the Boeings. The roster will be adjusted immediately with the above post corrections in the next 20-30 minutes, keep up the info like this and we can continually maintain a correct roster at the Transitwiki Roster Page of www.ttmg.org. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordguy Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah, that was a error in rushing, I meant to put Green under the Boeings. The roster will be adjusted immediately with the above post corrections in the next 20-30 minutes, keep up the info like this and we can continually maintain a correct roster at the Transitwiki Roster Page of www.ttmg.org. Thanks Great roster on every level, guys: graphics, presentation, accuracy of information. I enjoy the rest of the site too. Couple more items to add: A large group of Flxibles at 74th was overlooked in the posting: 6236-6275. The garage tally looks okay though. Also: Novabus #6708 was transferred from Archer to Forest Glen about six weeks ago. In the meantime, for the next few months, there are likely to be plenty of bus moves. The odd-even split assignments are likely to be gradually eliminated, so there'll probably be a fair amount of swapping --- just like New York. All but a handful of buses numbered from 1000-2029 and 4000-4149 have been delivered. According to a report posted by Kevin, this site's webmaster, New Flyer artics 4150-4207 should begin arriving sometime in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah, for some reason #6236 - #6275 were posted as Cummins diesels. Only #6305 - #6329 minus retirements are Cummins. Also the even group #1912 - #1928 evens are totally missing. they are assigned to Chicago now. Another thing the #10 is now assigned to Chicago garage. Also certain L cars have been retired. There's a 2007 roster here For instance for the #2200's #2257 -58 ( #2258 burned at Kedzie/Congress #2257 retained as a non revenue car),#2289 -90 (Damaged beyond repair after falling off the "L" structure at Lake/wabash in 1977) #2307 -08, #2315- 16 ( burned at Skokie shops in seperate incident after failed suicide attempt damaged train.) and #2341 -42 have been retired. There have been a few changes to pink line and blue line assignments since then like all #2200's are on the blue now and #3200 - #3160? have moved to pink line service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Yeah, for some reason #6236 - #6275 were posted as Cummins diesels. Only #6305 - #6329 minus retirements are Cummins. Also the even group #1912 - #1928 evens are totally missing. they are assigned to Chicago now. Another thing the #10 is now assigned to Chicago garage. Also certain L cars have been retired. There's a 2007 roster here For instance for the #2200's #2257 -58 ( #2258 burned at Kedzie/Congress #2257 retained as a non revenue car),#2289 -90 (Damaged beyond repair after falling off the "L" structure at Lake/wabash in 1977) #2307 -08, #2315- 16 ( burned at Skokie shops in seperate incident after failed suicide attempt damaged train.) and #2341 -42 have been retired. There have been a few changes to pink line and blue line assignments since then like all #2200's are on the blue now and #3200 - #3160? have moved to pink line service. The number 10 is completely assigned at Kedzie since 3/23 of last year per this site's garage section, unless you discovered something recent that Kevin missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santran Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 The 10 has been rolling with "5" in the run box. Not sure if it is the xtra spring break service or a permanent change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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