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Pace Winter Pick December 8th, 2024


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Good afternoon. At today's October Pace Board Meeting, it was revealed that several bus routes will have expanded service during this upcoming pick. Effective Sunday 12/8/24 or Monday 12/9/24, Pace routes 301, 322, 350, 364, 563 and 564 will have some form of earlier and/or later service on weekdays and/or weekends/Holidays.Β 

Below are the slides from the meeting with the current and new service times for the affected routes.

301 Roosevelt Road: Effective Sunday 12/8/24, expanded & extended weekend service hours, frequency and additional trips between Forest Park CTA Blue Line Terminal πŸŸ¦πŸš‰ & Oak Brook Shopping Center πŸ›πŸš.

322 Cermak Road 22nd Street: Effective Sunday 12/8/24, expanded and extended daily service hours, frequency and additional trips between 54th/Cermak Pink Line Terminal πŸ©·πŸš‰πŸš & Yorktown Center, Oak Brook Center & North Riverside Mall πŸ›πŸš.

350 Sibley: Effective Sunday 12/8/24, expanded and extended daily service hours, frequency and additional trips between Harvey Transportation Center πŸš‰πŸš & Morton/Willow in Hammond, IN 🚍.

364 159th Street: Effective Sunday, expanded & extended daily service hours, frequency & additional trips between Orland Park Shopping Center πŸ›πŸš & Morton/Willow in Hammond, IN 🚍. All Weekend/Holiday trips will serve Morton/Willow in Hammond, IN 🚍.

563 Great Lakes Naval Station: Effective Sunday 12/8/24, new weekend service between Waukegan Metra πŸš‰ and Great Lakes Navy Exchange/Commissary βš“οΈ.

564 Jackson/14th: Effective Monday 12/9/24, Improved weekday hours, additional trips and minor Saturday schedule adjustments between Waukegan πŸš‰πŸš & Fountain Square πŸ›πŸš.Β 

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Why did I think that the 564 was a 7-day-a-week route? (I got it confused with 568)

2 hours ago, Busjack said:

I'm somewhat surprised Pace is extending all weekend 364 service to Hammond. Apparently Calumet City east of Torrence needed it.

One could hope the eventual plan is to move it to Gateway with the GPTC (less mileage and more demand at the State Line than Hegewisch, for now).Β 

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I'm surprised that Pace didn't consider extending the 301 weekend service to Roosevelt/Ardmore.Β  Weekdays that portion of the route operates at 30 ninute frequencies organically ( though weekdays every other trip goes to/from Wheaton between 840a and 237p).Β  There's a residential area along Ardmore that could probably use the service.Β  Otherwise it's a long walk to Meyers for the 313 or to 22nd for the 322.

It looks like the Hegewisch station service on the 364 on weekends is going away.Β  I wonder if the 350/364 might eventually make an adjustment to service the new Hammond Station?Β  Maybe, maybe not.

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On 10/16/2024 at 6:12 PM, MetroShadow said:

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One could hope the eventual plan is to move it to Gateway with the GPTC (less mileage and more demand at the State Line than Hegewisch, for now).Β 

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean 364? On the GPTC routes page, the only route that goes to the South Shore Hammond Gateway Station is R6 Lakeshore North (Hammond-Whiting); allΒ  3 Hammond routes (R1, R4, and R6) stop at Morton-Willow.

On 10/16/2024 at 6:29 PM, artthouwill said:

...It looks like the Hegewisch station service on the 364 on weekends is going away.Β  I wonder if the 350/364 might eventually make an adjustment to service the new Hammond Station?Β  Maybe, maybe not.

  1. Nope. Hegewisch weekend service stays the same or better. Change is that other trips don't end at Ring Road, but go through to Morton-Willow (see below clip from today's schedule, which shows very sketchy service east of Ring Road in the p.m.).
  2. This, however, raises the question why there is still weekend service to Hegewisch. This is a remnant from when there was a 350-355-364 interline at Hammond, as 355 didn't run on weekends. Considering. though, that 355 was suspended weekdays when COVID hit, is there a reason for this remnant, or is Pace just waiting for ReVision to kill it?
  3. On whether Pace wants to connect with the South Shore, the more interesting question is whether the Lansing On Demand will connect to the Munster-Ridge station, which is due to open in May, but it's 1/4 mile outside RTA territory and probably would need RTA permission. Any extension into Indiana would need that authority, while 350 and 364 were established by the RTA.before Pace.

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BTW, someone should tell Pace graphics that despite what the new schedule denotes, Franciscan Health Hammond is no longer there.

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The Downtown Hammond South Shore Monan Line station is expected to open in 2026 between Fayette and Russell Sts and would make a good replacement for the current Hammond bus terminal. Hammond Gateway would be even better, so that riders could connect to the existing "Lakeshore" line as well, but it would add quite a bit of operating costs for Pace.

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5 hours ago, Tcmetro said:

The Downtown Hammond South Shore Monan Line station is expected to open in 2026 between Fayette and Russell Sts and would make a good replacement for the current Hammond bus terminal. Hammond Gateway would be even better, so that riders could connect to the existing "Lakeshore" line as well, but it would add quite a bit of operating costs for Pace.

Official website makes no mention of one; I alsoΒ  didn't see anything on mysouthshoreline.com, and Google turns up nothing. So, what's your source?

There are some news articles about revitalization around Hohman at Rimbach/Fayette, but no train station. Having grown up there, I can now say there is no Downtown Hammond.

Again, with respect to Pace extending further into Indiana, there's no indication that the RTA would authorize it.

I'm not clear why the Dan Rabin transit center had to close when the RBA fell apart, but that's why Pace [to get back to the topic] and GPTC moved to Morton/Willow.

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