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Question 2:

How come the 7000s had such a shorter life than the 7100s?

The 7000s were in service from 1979 to 1994 (15 years) and the 7100s were in service from 1982 to 2001 (19 years). The 7000s were only retired 4 years behind the 7100s, what are you talking about when you say "How come the 7000s had such a shorter life than the 7100s?". I don't get it.

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The 7000s were in service from 1979 to 1994 (15 years) and the 7100s were in service from 1982 to 2001 (19 years). The 7000s were only retired 4 years behind the 7100s, what are you talking about when you say "How come the 7000s had such a shorter life than the 7100s?". I don't get it.
Also, you have to consider that most of the 7100s were taken out of service fairly early; does anyone have any idea how many lasted until the 7300s were received from Seattle? Only one survived after that.

Posters on other boards (I don't vouch for them any more) indicate that after the accident when a Jeffrey artic hit a car that cut in front of it, CTA did something to the transmissions to slow them down, and that tended to make the buses burn up. Again, I don't know if that applied to the 7000s or 7100s.

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The Bus was 7219. It was involved in an accident with a Cadillac by Soldier Field. The bus was on top of the car, six people were killed. I think they were going or leaving a Bruce Springsteen concert.

I still have the Channel 7 news clip from I believe it was 1985 of that accident on tape involving #7219. It also included an incident involving a MAN Artic where the middle tires came off the bus while in transit along Lake Shore Dr. And also a bus fire at 99th/Vincennes involving CTA GMC #7875. That time was not a good one for CTA, It had encountered many incidents where maintenance procedures were in question. Drivers and mechanics were going on record about CTA maintenance practices. The late Michael Cardilli was at the helm back then. I also have a tape of the CTA accident from 1991 involving TMC RTS #4683 where it crashed into a building on Jackson. And I have the 1995 accident of a Flxible Metro #5530 when it crashed into the bridge pillar on Addison st.

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I still have the Channel 7 news clip from I believe it was 1985 of that accident on tape involving #7219. It also included an incident involving a MAN Artic where the middle tires came off the bus while in transit along Lake Shore Dr. And also a bus fire at 99th/Vincennes involving CTA GMC #7875. That time was not a good one for CTA, It had encountered many incidents where maintenance procedures were in question. Drivers and mechanics were going on record about CTA maintenance practices. The late Michael Cardilli was at the helm back then. I also have a tape of the CTA accident from 1991 involving TMC RTS #4683 where it crashed into a building on Jackson. And I have the 1995 accident of a Flxible Metro #5530 when it crashed into the bridge pillar on Addison st.

Could you please post them online?

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Also, you have to consider that most of the 7100s were taken out of service fairly early; does anyone have any idea how many lasted until the 7300s were received from Seattle? Only one survived after that.

Back in early 2004, When I was camping out at 103rd Garage for over an hour a for MAN Artic to take a ride on, I did caught that only one remained 71--, couldnt remember exactly the last 2 digit. But it was an 1983 MAN. I liked those 7100s better than Seattle's. Does anyone know that 1987 MAN Artic Trolley buses still operating for Seattle KC Metro or did it retired?

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The 7000s were in service from 1979 to 1994 (15 years) and the 7100s were in service from 1982 to 2001 (19 years). The 7000s were only retired 4 years behind the 7100s, what are you talking about when you say "How come the 7000s had such a shorter life than the 7100s?". I don't get it.

Well, the 7000s did have a shorter life by only four years than the 7100s, but four years still counts as four years.

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Does anyone know that 1987 MAN Artic Trolley buses still operating for Seattle KC Metro or did it retired?

If I'm reading your question correctly, you're asking whether or not Seattle still has MAN articulated trolleys. The answer would be no.

The last one was retired either this year or last year. The have all been replaced with the converted Breda artics (former dual-mode buses).

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I still have the Channel 7 news clip from I believe it was 1985 of that accident on tape involving #7219. It also included an incident involving a MAN Artic where the middle tires came off the bus while in transit along Lake Shore Dr. And also a bus fire at 99th/Vincennes involving CTA GMC #7875. That time was not a good one for CTA, It had encountered many incidents where maintenance procedures were in question. Drivers and mechanics were going on record about CTA maintenance practices. The late Michael Cardilli was at the helm back then. I also have a tape of the CTA accident from 1991 involving TMC RTS #4683 where it crashed into a building on Jackson. And I have the 1995 accident of a Flxible Metro #5530 when it crashed into the bridge pillar on Addison st.

I remember the 1991 accident. I was a junior in high school at the time and I was on the way to class. And yes it was serving 126 Jackson. I actually would have been on that bus if I didn't decide to wait for the Americana right behind it because there were already a lot of kids waiting at my stop. The accident happened on Jackson a little distance east of Kostner. I remember my bus getting to Kostner and having to be rerouted because of an accident. We didn't know what kind of accident until seeing the news later that day. My enthusiasm for Americanas saved me from that accident that day.

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The Bus was 7219. It was involved in an accident with a Cadillac by Soldier Field. The bus was on top of the car, six people were killed. I think they were going or leaving a Bruce Springsteen concert.

That bus sat at the Ashland / Archer auto dump, near the Ashland I-55 ramps for several years, along with several old Illinois State Trooper car before it was removed sometime in the 90s.

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I might have miss this somewhere in the forum, but are there any CTA 7000 series Man Buses that is still sitting somewhere, or have they met scrapper heaven. The reason, I ask, the engine on these bus have an unique sound, and I recalled riding them when they were on Archer Route, damn, missed that 62 Archer Express.

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