Nitro Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 4/19/2013 at 9:19 PM, BusHunter said: They should just bring back the x routes. Is it a realistic assumption that CTA is going to find the cash for several BRT routes? Why have rapid transit service coming in 2020 or later when they could have it now. What's wrong with building your way up? As far as Cicero, just a few years ago the CTA proposed the mid city transitway two blocks away. If they went as far as a rapid transit "L" line proposal, it's mind boggling why they wouldn't pursue a BRT corridor there. In time they probably will get one there but who knows how many years from now that will be. I mean Chicagoians have been waiting 30 years so far for some form of transportation to develop in that corridor. (going back to the crosstown expressway) We're still waiting!! http://forum.chicagobus.org/uploads/default_rolleyes.gif Why would they support BRT? If they didn't want rapid transit they could easily go with LRT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Nitro said: Why would they support BRT? If they didn't want rapid transit they could easily go with LRT. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about Chicago. I don't think you know how transit funding works in the U.S either. This isn't fantasyland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Nitro said: Why would they support BRT? If they didn't want rapid transit they could easily go with LRT. Please pass the pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Nitro said: Why would they support BRT? If they didn't want rapid transit they could easily go with LRT. Why does MTA have SBS? By your logic, shouldn't MTA bring back the BQT Trolley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Busjack said: Why does MTA have SBS? By your logic, shouldn't MTA bring back the BQT Trolley? The reason why the MTA has SBS because the bus ridership is high enough to justify it. Light Rail is different because it has to have a separate ROW away from traffic like the Hudson Bergen Light Rail and the Newark City Subway in New Jersey. Trolleys also have additional capacity than buses. Buses have their corridors they should be used in lower dense areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Nitro said: The reason why the MTA has SBS because the bus ridership is high enough to justify it. Light Rail is different because it has to have a separate ROW away from traffic like the Hudson Bergen Light Rail and the Newark City Subway in New Jersey. Trolleys also have additional capacity than buses. Buses have their corridors they should be used in lower dense areas. So how doesn't that apply to Chicago? Or are you schizophrenic? Is there separate ROW on Ashland, Western, or Cottage Grove? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Busjack said: So how doesn't that apply to Chicago? Or are you schizophrenic? Is there separate ROW on Ashland, Western, or Cottage Grove? Ashland has enough space for BRT. Western does not. It's about how the streets are designed which ironically more lanes is induced demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nitro said: Ashland has enough space for BRT. Western does not. It's about how the streets are designed which ironically more lanes is induced demand. Ashland has BRT. Have you reached 5000 misstatements yet? Also, there were the consultants who sucked up about $5 million in federal money to propose a center lane BRT on Ashland, and would bar left turns on most cross-streets (not all) from Irving Park to 95th. That engendered immediate community protest and was dropped, Again, you could have looked it up, but refused to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 12:30 PM, Busjack said: Ashland has BRT. Have you reached 5000 misstatements yet? Also, there were the consultants who sucked up about $5 million in federal money to propose a center lane BRT on Ashland, and would bar left turns on most cross-streets (not all) from Irving Park to 95th. That engendered immediate community protest and was dropped, Again, you could have looked it up, but refused to do so. 100% agreed. @Busjack hit it right on the head On 10/8/2023 at 1:00 AM, Nitro said: Why would they support BRT? If they didn't want rapid transit they could easily go with LRT. Why did you resurrect a decade old thread comment to question something that could very easily have been looked up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 hours ago, jajuan said: 100% agreed. @Busjack hit it right on the head Why did you resurrect a decade old thread comment to question something that could very easily have been looked up? I just wanted to know if BRT will be helpful to Chicago or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Nitro said: I just wanted to know if BRT will be helpful to Chicago or not. Well, you didn't phrase it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, Busjack said: Well, you didn't phrase it that way. 4 hours ago, Nitro said: I just wanted to know if BRT will be helpful to Chicago or not. To answer your question, Yes Loop Link will be useful in time square. Can make a circulator to replace the 42nd Street shuttle and free those subway trains for a longer main line route and reduce transfers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sam92 said: To answer your question, Yes Loop Link will be useful in time square. Can make a circulator to replace the 42nd Street shuttle and free those subway trains for a longer main line route and reduce transfers ? Unfortunately, that wasn't his question. NYC has SBS which is BRT. Apparently, though, on his brief appearance in Chicago, he didn't ride the Loop Link, X4, X9, J14, or X49, which are versions of BRT, but, as @jajuan pointed out, were covered in this necrotopic, if he had read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Busjack said: Unfortunately, that wasn't his question. NYC has SBS which is BRT. Apparently, though, on his brief appearance in Chicago, he didn't ride the Loop Link, X4, X9, J14, or X49, which are versions of BRT, but, as @jajuan pointed out, were covered in this necrotopic, if he had read it. Damn guess I should've read before replying ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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