1000-series D40LF - Updates & Retirements

[ItzLogan1958]

On 3/6/2013 at 9:32 PM, BusHunter said:

I don't know if this was mentioned before, but I spotted #1005 tonight on the #29 and it had the new LED headlights on it, like the #4300 series currently has. I wonder if this bus has already been rehabbed or is it the pilot bus for the rehabs.

I currently went on #2001 on the #72.

[ItzLogan1958]

On 5/3/2025 at 7:13 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Whoever does buswatch add these buses under retired: 1796, 1898, 1795, 1636, 1427, 1272, 1423

Now we have a start for retiring. I saw 1272 once.

[ItzLogan1958]

These buses will be replaced by the 8350s.

[ItzLogan1958]

On 3/6/2013 at 9:50 PM, Busjack said:

Thanks. Since the contracts have been let, I suppose that it should get going. Obviously, being in the garage, you are in the best position to say when, and 103rd does have the ones at the bottom of the fleet order.

I think #2001 will be retired due to the handicap ramp issue.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

6 hours ago, ItzLogan1958 said:

These buses will be replaced by the 8350s.

We already knew that for many years.

[Bus1883]

7 hours ago, ItzLogan1958 said:

Now we have a start for retiring. I saw 1272 once.

Retirement has been started. Do some research

[ItzLogan1958]

On 4/11/2025 at 7:09 PM, jajuan said:

If I remember correctly, I think I tracked what appeared to be 1781, on the 22 Clark as a matter of fact while on the commute home one evening. Obviously it wasn't 1781 that showed up, based on your reporting it being in the boneyard and likely never to return to service, but an artic instead. If that's the case, I thought CTA would have gotten around to reprogramming the Clever Device unit already. 

Did you look at the bus number? That’s 4153.

[jajuan]

On 5/18/2025 at 8:29 AM, ItzLogan1958 said:

These buses will be replaced by the 8350s.

Those that are retired yes. But not all of them. CTA stated numerous times that up to 430 of the D40LFs were staying in service and getting a second rehab. 

On 5/18/2025 at 8:00 PM, ItzLogan1958 said:

Did you look at the bus number? That’s 4153.

It's possible. It's been a while now to remember for sure. 

[Adam Hubbard]

After the second rebuild,  are the 430 D40LF's will remain in service until 2040 or sooner?

[jajuan]

9 minutes ago, Adam Hubbard said:

After the second rebuild,  are the 430 D40LF's will remain in service until 2040 or sooner?

The implication was more they last the few more years it may take before CTA really gets electrification of the fleet moving at a strong enough level to have bus fleet contracts that are more on par with what current diesel bus orders have been. Basically getting electric bus orders to the point of being a couple hundred or more plus options on a contract as opposed to the current roughly 25 or so plus options.

[Bus1883]

3 hours ago, Adam Hubbard said:

After the second rebuild,  are the 430 D40LF's will remain in service until 2040 or sooner?

They definitely not getting past 2030. 2029 is mostly the deadline

[Tcmetro]

The rehab program is estimated to add 5 to 7 years to the life of each bus, so retirements could be in 2033 if the work begins in 2026.

[Busjack]

16 hours ago, Adam Hubbard said:

After the second rebuild,  are the 430 D40LF's will remain in service until 2040 or sooner?

In addition to what everyone else said above, you are apparently assuming that CTA will keep 1480 diesel buses until 2040 and then instantly replace them with 1480 BEBs. That isn't the Charging Forward transition plan. That plan assumes a useful life of 14 years. The rehabs are pushing that, but the only diesel buses contemplated to last to 2040 are the Novas being put in service now.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

On 3/22/2025 at 1:03 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

For 5/21/2025, not counting what is missing for at least 4 days, this is an idea of what is still left in service.

Forest Glen: 1630, 1631, 1632, 1633, 1641, 1655, 1657, 1660, 1663, 1735 (10)

Kedzie: 1673, 1676, 1677, 1678, 1683, 1688, 1691, 1701, 1714, 1715, 1721, 1724, 1736, 1743, 1750, 1755, 1760, 1783, 1803, 1809, 1843, 1846, 1895, and 1920 (24)

North Park: 1719, 1720, 1725, 1744, 1762, 1764, 1767, 1768, 1769, 1780, 1787, 1788, 1789, 1793, 1801, 1806, 1807, 1818, 1822, 1826, 1830, 1832, 1839, 1853, 1855, 1860, 1862, 1863, 1865, 1872, 1873, 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1891, 1932 (37)

Chicago: 1900, 1902, 1904, 1906, 1909, 1912, 1913, 1914, 1915, 1917, 1919, 1929, 1941, 1950, 1956, 1957, 1962, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1975, 1979, 1982, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2012, 2024, 2025 (29)

Not counting the units listed below (which have not been confirmed retired, if they are, yet) as more retirements have loomed in that have not been reported yet or some of these buses are awaiting work, there are 100 active buses within the last 4 days that is listed up on the roster above. Not all of the buses mentioned below are retired, but from what it looks like I'd say about a third of these are for sure retired.

These units are inactive from F: 1653 (1)

These units are inactive from K: 1726, 1734, 1758, 1835, 1874. (5)

These units are inactive from P: 1718, 1798, 1804, 1867. (4)

These units are inactive from Chicago: 1954, 1964 1966, 1980, 2009. (5)

Total Missing: 15

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

On 5/21/2025 at 10:11 AM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

These units are inactive from P: 1718, 1789, 1804, 1867, 1873. (5)

1789 is ghosting on the 93 with “Not In Service” on the signs 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

2 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

1789 is ghosting on the 93 with “Not In Service” on the signs 

That makes sense, north park isn’t good with staying on top of buses with broken trackers. Examples of buses with bad trackers that go off include 1547, 4031, and 4015, which been like this for months and they didn’t wanna fix it.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1873 is back on the 49 after its second trip to south shops this spring and 1873 has a new drivers shield installed on it.

Edited Friday at 12:03 AM by Erin Mishkin Jr.
Confirmed that 1873 has a new shield

[Shannon tahoeppv]

On 5/15/2025 at 9:08 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

2009 has been OOS at the south fence awaiting work since the end of April.

1835 OOS since 5/13, 1789 OOS since 5/13, 1653 OOS since 5/9 in FG trouble lot, 1980 OOS since 5/13, 1966 OOS since 5/15, 1962 OOS since 5/17, 1660 OOS since 5/17 (breakdown), 1718 OOS since 5/15, 1873 OOS since 5/16, 1736 OOS since 5/15, 1734 OOS since 5/17

1720,1783,1843 is back in service, 1872 is in service with a brand new shield.

Missing from P: 1718, 1789, 1804, 1867, 1873. (5)

Missing from F: 1653, 1660. (2)

Missing from K: 1726, 1734, 1736 1758, 1835. (5)

Missing from 😄 1954, 1962, 1966, 1980, 2009. (5)

Total Missing: 17

1653 is at C sitting in the back where they put maintenance buses at behind the shop

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

5 hours ago, Shannon tahoeppv said:

1653 is at C sitting in the back where they put maintenance buses at behind the shop

got a pic?

[Shannon tahoeppv]

14 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said:

got a pic?

Nah I didn't get one when i drove past it after I got off 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1002 is now an instruction bus

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Yesterday I saw 1914 and 1758 have appeared in the boneyard, most likely for retirement but no LTH stickers around either buses. 1752 and 2009 remain at south fence with everything still intact and no LTH stickers or parts removed off either bus. 2009 is supposedly waiting for repairs and 1752 is retired but they are slow on 1752 taking anything off or putting LTH on it. 1795 got decommissioned faster than 1752 which is quite interesting. Apart from that nothing new from sidewalk view.