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By this, I take it that should be no stops 11th to 47th at all times. I think someone got it confused with 2, which loops in different directions.

Error No stops between Columbus/11th and Stony Island/57th (AM) and Lake Park/47th (PM) Error Metra Rock Island Van Buren St Station Error Metra Rock Island Millennium Station

Spot the error

Maybe the last 100 Novas get split between 74th and 77th?

For some reason all of 74th 8350’s are sidelined. Not sure if it’s for new fare box installations cause we’re the next garage to get them or they’re about to go to another garage lol we’ll see.

Sounds like NP is having the same issues on 22 as 66 and 79 had with artics which I why they've been slowly pulled from 22. Starting some buses at Kinzie would probably save enough time to slightly bump the headways up with the same amount of buses. Seems to work with the 146 and 147. North of Lake gets some very heavy ridership so they could use a few empty buses put in.

@strictures can answer better, but it looks like with the schedule going from every 12 to 20 minutes from Howard as the evening goes on, one missed run would result in a 45 minute delay. Probably running about half artics and half 40' doesn't help.

Sounds like maybe some buses starting further up like Kinzie, llinois or maybe even Chicago could help that issue.

The issue with the 22 isn't that there aren't enough buses running on the route. The major problem affecting service is that the buses get hung up for various reasons coming back northbound out of downtown. In the warm weather months, it can be worse because Cubs home games and other Wrigley Field events as well as summertime special events that are downtown near the route get factored into those tie-ups. Service on the route have actually been increased in past picks, bringing headways and arrival times close to what I remember them being before the COVID reductions, and the issue with long wait times along the northern stretch still manage to creep up. As noted, the lane reductions along Clark between Edgewater and Arthur where Ashland merges with and breaks back off from Clark don't help. So adding buses would actually feed the problem instead of fixing it.

some 1200’s also made their way to 103rd

Apparently the guys in bus operations changed their minds about the lower 1000s that initially went from NP to 103rd. They operated out of 103rd during the weekend and Monday. Then from Christmas Eve on into this morning, those that have been on the road have been running out of 77th.

Has 1830 been spotted at SS too in a retirement area?

It's a total of 100 cars, but it isn't clear if those are multicar units. Doing a search for R211T, there seems to be some controversy about that they will only be used on local lines (e.g. NBC4; Secret NYC). This looks like a good video:

No, it doesn't. It only requires that if a TA wants a Low/No grant, it has to have a transition plan. Otherwise I agree with you and @jajuan. The 2025 Budget has: That comes out to $272,000 per bus, with an electric bus with charger (not to mention garage and other infrastructure) being about $1.5 million a bus, and even a hybrid being over $1 million (according to Pace). So, that's not too bad.

CTA has known for several years now that electric buses will cost billions of dollars in garage upgrades and haven't made much progress on that front. What's going to happen is that there will be hundreds of buses on the street that are 20+ years old until real money is put in place to make electric a reality.

The problem is that CTA is not in a position to order a large number of electric buses. They can't keep the few electrics they do have on the street consistently. I've been saying they should do one more diesel or hybrid bus order but they would need to do it quickly. Since federal law mandates zero emission fleets by 2040, it wouldn't make sense to buy diesel vehicles after 2026 because they would only get minimal use of of those vehicles Meantime stretching out the life of 400 vehicles gives them a chance to incrementally increase their electric fleet while the 7900s and 8350s will last until 2035 and up to 2039 before being retired. To add to @jajuan "s post, CTA and the State boxed themselves in by ordinances and state law making the 8350s the last diesel orders.

Ordinarily your comment would be true, but the 8350s are the last diesel bus order CTA is doing per its own ordinances and recently passed state law that came on the heels of those ordinances. All bus orders after this current one are to be for electric buses, and as we all can see CTA has run into plenty of kinks and bumps to iron out with the electric buses they've brought into the fleet so far. Even without the rough spots, they only brought a relatively small few online as they've yet to lock down a funding path for needed infrastructure to maintain electrics beyond what they already brought in. Given that, they still need something to keep the system running on the bus side until the transition begins progressing further. So under those dynamics they're currently working around, rebuilding older buses is a suitable solution.

As far as the 1000s new flyers go did has the process of rebuilding those select few hundred began. I see they want to keep those until 2029 the latest. My main question is it really worth putting a 100+ million dollars into busses that are already closing in on the 20 yr mark. CTA wanted to retire the first batch of 1000s (2006-7) models but those are the least affected by rust. We can all see the 2008-9 flyers are being retired due to rust. As much as I like the 1000s hey have served heir ime well and that money should go to new busses. I feel he cta just throws away money they did the 6000 flxibles he same most were only a couple years out of rehab and then was mothballed and retired. I could be wrong what are your guys thoughts

Forest Glen didn’t give anything up for the buses they got from 77th (yet)

This is some good info right here💯 I feel like they’ll get some modern new flyer buses that they should’ve been ordered 10 years ago.

So what did 74th get in exchange for losing 8000-8009?

That at least helps to understand what the next order may look like. Based on the capital plan, CTA is planning to replace the 2008 New Flyer articulateds with electric buses, so it will be interesting to see if the RFP includes 40', 60', or some combo of buses.

I wonder how serious this item is in the Buying Plan: Also the plan and 2025 Budget have references to Phase 2 of the Route 66 project; I wonder how that is distinguished from what came before:

NYC is also buying several hundred open gangway cars for their subway.

Another possible reason for so many moves to 103rd and K could be that a fair number of the medium and heavier routes out of the reported 19 overall seeing service increases come from those two garages.