sw4400 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Let's see what you guys think about this... a stroller of I'm guessing average size(pic #1) gets caught in the sliding doors of a Red Line train(pic #2) and is dragged for 5 stops!?! Does anyone think this might've been possible, or is this lady just trying to scam/sue the CTA??? I was thinking this was possible, but since all doors were functioning properly on this train, I'm more thinking possible scam, as the train cannot move with a door open, due to safety constraints.Baby_Stroller.bmpcta2903-VMAs01.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I can't believe no one else was on that car. If the stroller was there the doors would keep bouncing open and closed until the obstruction is removed it's very strange. We all no how something is working one minute and not the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cta_44499_FG Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Let's see what you guys think about this... a stroller of I'm guessing average size(pic #1) gets caught in the sliding doors of a Red Line train(pic #2) and is dragged for 5 stops!?! Does anyone think this might've been possible, or is this lady just trying to scam/sue the CTA??? I was thinking this was possible, but since all doors were functioning properly on this train, I'm more thinking possible scam, as the train cannot move with a door open, due to safety constraints. This entire situation is not making any sense to me. Either she's lying about what happened...or the CTA is lying about the door functioning properly. Just like a bus....the train should not and can not move unless all doors are properly closed. Something smells fishy here...and it's not the tilaphia in my refridgerator, either! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 This could probably go either way. First, as we all know everyone knows its easy to sue and get money out of the CTA. All it takes is one minor mishap. Or second, those of us who have worked at CTA know that theres always an employee who bends the rules a bit that cause an accident. There are some very arrogant, cocky employees who like to showoff behind the controls. Bus drivers, we see this all the time. Im leaning more towards the lady probably trying to get money out of the CTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 This could probably go either way. The way this is developing, the circumstantial evidence points to it going either way. This was debated in a more spirited manner on the CTA Tattler, but basically what you have now is what the mother said, plus a couple of witnesses who said the mother screamed and one of them pulled the baby from the tracks. So, unless the mother intentionally threw her baby on the tracks and confederated with someone else to unload the stroller 4 stops south, at least something happened. On the other hand, CTA is saying that the doors had obstruction sensors to avoid another Rachel Barton incident, and they were working. So, I guess the only thing one can say is that this needs more investigation. Also, if the mother is doing it "to get money from the CTA," she has the burden of proof. BTW, unless it is assumed that we don't know what a stroller or a CTA train is, the attachments in the first post are irrelevant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcherRider Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 The newspaper saying the stroller and the guard rail at Morse were not damaged and they said someone turn in the stroller at Berwyn and the read The CTA Tattler and they say a "witness" saw the driver of the red line train dump the "stroller" at Thorndale and now who I believe now because they were no witness to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Why did the mother go to the hospital yesterday saying she was in pain. There is also a backlash from the public. They don't like the fact that the motorman has been suspended without pay, channel 2 and 5 were debating this last night and took a poll the public is not happy with the decision. I bet she gets paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 The newspaper saying the stroller and the guard rail at Morse were not damaged and they said someone turn in the stroller at Berwyn and the read The CTA Tattler and they say a "witness" saw the driver of the red line train dump the "stroller" at Thorndale and now who I believe now because they were no witness to this. According to yesterday's Red eye newspaper, the stroller was left at Berwyn on the following train. From what I've heard this kind of sounds like a scam because things just don't add up. If a stroller were hanging out a train door it would never make the clearances at Loyola. The only way I see this incident happening is if the stroller somehow got caught on the outside landing (the metal one) and was dragged until it had no more platform and fell. Even then it would be a miracle that the back wheels somehow didn't get caught between the platform and train and be torn to shreds. If it did happen that way most likely the stroller would've fell and got run over by the train. Too many miracles for me to believe. Also with current events lately on the news (Balloon Boy and the australian stroller falling on the tracks) it's might be possible someone was trying to copycat that. Ultimately a lawyer will have to prove this case and show how it happened to win a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted November 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 BTW, unless it is assumed that we don't know what a stroller or a CTA train is, the attachments in the first post are irrelevant. I apologize to the other members reading this if you have been insulted by Busjack's remarks above... I have in no way meant anything negative to any of you by these photos... these are visuals for you to see and formulate your own decision on what might've happened at the Morse Red Line stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 The newspaper saying the stroller and the guard rail at Morse were not damaged and they said someone turn in the stroller at Berwyn and the read The CTA Tattler and they say a "witness" saw the driver of the red line train dump the "stroller" at Thorndale and now who I believe now because they were no witness to this. In the Red eye they stated at Granville the train was turned over to a supervisor to drive. The person who said that the stroller was dumped at Thorndale would be saying a Supervisor was party to that. That's highly unlikely. Most likely the stroller traveled on the next train to Berwyn from Morse. That would explain why there was no stroller on the train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctafan630 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Has the CTA tried to do a re-enactment of this incident to see how plausible it is? Like others have suggested. I find it difficult for the stroller to be in one piece if it did in fact get caught in the doors. How did it no break at the end of the Morse platform or when it arrived at the next station? How did no one on the train car see what took place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 How did no one on the train car [saw] what took place? Certainly, no one has all the answers to this. However, based on my experience, the train isn't too full at Morse (near the end of the line) when not going in the rush direction, and there probably is a "no talking" attitude among passengers. I'm taking the position (1) this needs more investigation, and (2) Homeland Security money should be sought to get cameras on all trains, and not wait 15 years until the fleet is all 5000s. Also, the cameras on the platform project should be accelerated. This is necessary not only for the obvious homeland security reasons, but to resolve investigations such as this. For instance, it was reported yesterday that the bus driver who claimed that the bicycling cop beat him was charged with obstruction of justice, because bus video backed up witnesses' accounts that he was not beaten (although the Tribune seems to side with the driver). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Certainly, no one has all the answers to this. However, based on my experience, the train isn't too full at Morse (near the end of the line) when not going in the rush direction, and there probably is a "no talking" attitude among passengers. I'm taking the position (1) this needs more investigation, and (2) Homeland Security money should be sought to get cameras on all trains, and not wait 15 years until the fleet is all 5000s. Also, the cameras on the platform project should be accelerated. This is necessary not only for the obvious homeland security reasons, but to resolve investigations such as this. For instance, it was reported yesterday that the bus driver who claimed that the bicycling cop beat him was charged with obstruction of justice, because bus video backed up witnesses' accounts that he was not beaten (although the Tribune seems to side with the driver). I second that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Surprised it took almost a year, but the Stroller Mom finally got around to suing the CTA over an incident that continues to have about as much mystery as an episode of Lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Surprised it took almost a year, but the Stroller Mom finally got around to suing the CTA over an incident that continues to have about as much mystery as an episode of Lost. Actually, the statute of limitations against the CTA is one year (70 ILCS 3605/41) , so this is to be expected. Maybe the the lawyer investigated the mystery before filing, although that is usually pretty unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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