Busjack Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 About the 140 additional, if you figured what each garage would have for artics based on a percentage of what they had before the NABI crisis... Subject to the caveat in my prior post, at this point I still think that NP has about what it will get. One might think that after 208 or 225, CTA would go back to the original rationales for the first 150 (3 for 4 replacement on heavy routes) or some express route substitute for BRT on 8, 66, and 79 (since 14 already has the hybrids and is not going to get the street furniture), which was the original rationale for the 58. K, under either theory dealing with 8, would get more hybrid artics and lose 40 footers. Sticking my head out further the original rationales might still indicate hybrids for 77th (definitely for 79, and probably for 3, 4, and 87, all of which at one time had NABIs), C for 66, and going further out probably 74th, A and FG for 9, X9, X49, 63, 77, and 81. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I wouldn't go as far to put artics at Fg. Perhaps a few at 74th, but originally the up to 900 were ordered most likely for BRT. With that up in the air I don't know if they would want more than 140 more anyway unless they use them for olympic service which is not set in stone. Speaking of Fg, with the demise of #173, #174 soon I wonder if they are due for more ice cream trucks soon. (#500's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 You are probably right. Kedzie and NP are practically the same now as before the NABI fiasco. No need to send more artics there, unless you want to convert the #151 to artics. Practically all the #125's are artic now and half the #157's are too in the rush hour. A few show up on the #122 now. Artic's are even showing up on the #10. Probably the rest will be headed SB, whether as transfers or new buses we'll have to see. About the 140 additional, if you figured what each garage would have for artics based on a percentage of what they had before the NABI crisis you would end up with 126 for NP (150 40 footers), 104 for Kedzie (196 40 footers) with #6000's being retired there totally, 40 for 77th and 78 for 103rd with about 100 40 footers. We'd have to be pretty much close to the end of Kedzie or NP getting more artics with the next order of 140 on hold for the time being. So I'm inclined to believe that it's about time for 77th and 103rd to start getting their share fairly soon. Remember until the state makes a move on funding on the transit side of the capital issue, CTA only gets 58 buses for now. As for 125 and 157, those two still get a fair amount of 1000 and 6000 coverage depending on the weekday involved. Heck, 12 Roosevelt still sees arctics here and then on weekdays though downtown events that draw more people are almost finished soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 4177 is at North Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 4177 is at North Park It was on yesterday's #135 in the PM. All #4170's have been in service up to #4178 so far except #4171. Also #4155 is missing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 4161.4166,4175, 4177 at North Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 #4179 is out on the #146 this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 #4179 is out on the #146 this morning. 4181 was on the #146 this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 4181 was on the #146 this morning. #4180 was on the #135 and #4182 was on the #147 also this morning. #4184 was on the #147 this evening too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 #4180 was on the #135 and #4182 was on the #147 also this morning. #4184 was on the #147 this evening too. 4186, 4187, and 4188 were on the 147 this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 4186, 4187, and 4188 were on the 147 this morning. It's really becoming a longitudinal palace up there. They should announce on the buses these buses are part of CTA's North Park stimulus project. :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 It's really becoming a longitudinal palace up there. They should announce on the buses these buses are part of CTA's North Park stimulus project. I know right! The 147 comes right by front door and its been kind of nice seeing these new buses pass by. Although so unfortunate for others, specifically out south. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 4168 was coming south on Halsted St. and eventually parked (completely turned off) at the Belmont & Halsted Terminal this evening. Is this a parking spot for buses during the Cubs games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudgym29 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 <br />4168 was coming south on Halsted St. and eventually parked (completely turned off) at the Belmont & Halsted Terminal this evening. Is this a parking spot for buses during the Cubs games?<br /><br /><br /><br /> I thought the holding | staging area for extra trips from Clark & Addison was Irving Park between the north side "L" structure and Clark St. Perhaps CTA doesn't want to take up that much space by holding an articulated bus there; so it will dispatch it to Belmont | Halsted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 4186, 4187, and 4188 were on the 147 this morning. #4189 was on yesterday's #135 and #4190 is on this morning's #146. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Im starting to see a lot of these excess 4000's at NP on Rush Hour 151's and 22's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Im starting to see a lot of these excess 4000's at NP on Rush Hour 151's and 22's. Yeah, there probably trying to relieve the crush of passengers who try to board the #22 North of the Chicago river in the PM and can't because of excess standing loads. Throw an artic in here and there and it relieves conjestion. #151's are bad too North of the river SB in the PM's. BTW, #4191 was on the #147 yesterday so another one hits service. #4155 and #4171 are listed as here like #4149. I haven't seen them though. Only 16 to go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Yeah, there probably trying to relieve the crush of passengers who try to board the #22 North of the Chicago river in the PM and can't because of excess standing loads. Throw an artic in here and there and it relieves conjestion. #151's are bad too North of the river SB in the PM's. BTW, #4191 was on the #147 yesterday so another one hits service. #4155 and #4171 are listed as here like #4149. I haven't seen them though. Only 16 to go!! Ive saw 4171 a couple of days ago. Cant remember if it was on the 146 or the 147. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Went to the Cubs game yesterday. Coming down from the upper deck I was looking down at the lashup of NF artics lined up for Addison. The roof numbers are placed laterally right behind the a/c unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Ive saw 4171 a couple of days ago. Cant remember if it was on the 146 or the 147. #4192 is on the #147 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofan78 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 #4192 is on the #147 now. #4196 is on the #146 today. Also, looks like some swapping took place between 103rd, 77th, and Kedzie. Kedzie has picked up 4033-4041 from 77th and 4049-4052 from 103rd. No telling what 103rd and 77th picked up because artics are rarely in service on the weekends at those garages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusExpert32 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 #4196 is on the #146 today. Also, looks like some swapping took place between 103rd, 77th, and Kedzie. Kedzie has picked up 4033-4041 from 77th and 4049-4052 from 103rd. No telling what 103rd and 77th picked up because artics are rarely in service on the weekends at those garages. 77th and 103rd must have gotten something, since 4033-4041 are 77th's entire artic fleet. We'll see on Monday. But then again, there was that time when the NABIs were sidelined that 77th had 0 artics, so anything's possible, but there are more artics to work with now then there were then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Flyer Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 4061,4067,4068,4070,4073,4075,4079 are now at 77th in bay 3. There were about 4 others inside but I couldn't get to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 #4196 is on the #146 today. Also, looks like some swapping took place between 103rd, 77th, and Kedzie. Kedzie has picked up 4033-4041 from 77th and 4049-4052 from 103rd. I predicted this would happen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 4061,4067,4068,4070,4073,4075,4079 are now at 77th in bay 3. There were about 4 others inside but I couldn't get to them. Most likely 4065, 4069, 4071, 4077. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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