New Eldorados?

[artthouwill]

26 minutes ago, Pace831 said:

The difference is that starting the latest series with 6576 would overlap with 6600s, whereas the 6162s and 6323s were just continuing where they left off.

I could see starting or continuing with 6700 AFTER 6599.  Why jump from 6575?

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, Pace831 said:

CPTDB says 2378 was a replacement for 8800, which was destroyed in a fire. Since you say it "could not have been unplanned", are you rejecting that explanation?

Only comparing what Pace saiid it was  getting and what it got.But:

• 8800 would have  been a 40 foot bus,,  so why replace  it with a 35 foot bus?
• At least in the past couple of years, CPTDB has demonstrated on its face that it is not maintained by Pace insiders (such as the statement for about a year that 6485+  were going to be the same as 6484, and were to be delivered immediately after  it). In short, just another wiki. 

[Pace831]

29 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

I could see starting or continuing with 6700 AFTER 6599.  Why jump from 6575?

6575 was the end of the last order, and they want to keep the next order of buses in a consecutive number block.

[BusHunter]

I would wonder if the new buses aren't for dempster Pulse as its coming soon but 2 years away sounds a little far away for new buses now. My hunch says maybe North might finally get some Axess unless there are some real north haters out there. So if the CNGs can replace the orions and some nabis what then these replace the rest of the nabis? Sounds possible....

[Busjack]

13 hours ago, BusHunter said:

I would wonder if the new buses aren't for dempster Pulse as its coming soon but 2 years away sounds a little far away for new buses now.

Also, they have transit windows and Pace logos, and since you mention 2 years out, the grant hasn't been approved yet.

[artthouwill]

17540 currently on 877 with padded blue seats.  Mrs Pace  sounds normal.

[rotjohns]

19 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

17540 currently on 877 with padded blue seats.  Mrs Pace  sounds normal.

Looks like right now, they are up to 17543.  Would imagine 17544 on up will be out next week.

[artthouwill]

2 hours ago, rotjohns said:

Looks like right now, they are up to 17543.  Would imagine 17544 on up will be out next week.

Under 30 to go, then S should be 100 percent  CNG.

[artthouwill]

6175 broke down at St Charles  and Manheiim with hot brakes.  Will be glad and sad when the Eldos retire the NABIs.  The NABIs are nice buses but the suspension  is absolutely  atrocius.  Wonder how high the 6700s will go.

[ethan2226]

6 hours ago, artthouwill said:

6175 broke down at St Charles  and Manheiim with hot brakes.  Will be glad and sad when the Eldos retire the NABIs.  The NABIs are nice buses but the suspension  is absolutely  atrocius.  Wonder how high the 6700s will go.

What about the suspension on the Orions?

[rotjohns]

6 hours ago, artthouwill said:

6175 broke down at St Charles  and Manheiim with hot brakes.  Will be glad and sad when the Eldos retire the NABIs.  The NABIs are nice buses but the suspension  is absolutely  atrocius.  Wonder how high the 6700s will go.

Probably the end of that bus.  I was surprised it was moved from South in the first place.

[artthouwill]

43 minutes ago, rotjohns said:

Probably the end of that bus.  I was surprised it was moved from South in the first place.

The bus didn't  catch fire so I don't  think its the end yet. 

[Pace831]

Here are a bunch of pictures from last week.

Tuesday at Chandler: 2710, 6712, 17544, 17547, 17557, 17558, 17563

Wednesday at South Holland: 2696, 2766, 17505, 17508, 17545, 17546, 17548, 17549

Friday at South Holland: 2696, 6574, 6705, 6706, 6707, 6710, 17544

[Busjack]

Obviously, 2696 and 2766 are there to be reassigned.

The minivans used to be stored at HQTs (Arlington Heights) I thought FCA quit making Dodge Caravans, but maybe it quit advertising them. Also appearing new are the zero series and the Community Workplace license plates.

[ethan2226]

#6574 is at NW. It's on the 226

[Pace831]

51 minutes ago, ethan2226 said:

#6574 is at NW. It's on the 226

Also, 6573 on 422:

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, ethan2226 said:

#6574 is at NW. It's on the 226

 

48 minutes ago, Pace831 said:

Also, 6573 on 422:

First sightings.The inventory indicating that they were assigned to SW must not have been firm.

Since the 422 is now heading westbound from Glenview, it is on a NW trip and hence both are at NW, which now has 6566-6574 (as well as 6392-6476 and 6510-6512--total of 105).

 

[Pace831]

1 hour ago, Busjack said:

First sightings.The inventory indicating that they were assigned to SW must not have been firm.

6574 was at South Holland on Friday morning (in garage in front of 16414, look closely). They must have moved it Friday afternoon or some time during the weekend. I wonder what the delay was for they are just now going in service.

[Busjack]

8 minutes ago, Pace831 said:

6574 was at South Holland on Friday morning (in garage in front of 16414, look closely). They must have moved it Friday afternoon or some time during the weekend. I wonder what the delay was for they are just now going in service.

Don't know, maybe they were waiting for an Orion to die.

Just physically confirmed 6573 on 422 southbound. Fortunately, it was the one that leaves Northbrook Court at :45 instead of :30.

[Busjack]

2 hours ago, Pace831 said:

6574 was at South Holland on Friday morning (in garage in front of 16414, look closely).

Clicking twice on the magnifying glass, yes.

[ethan2226]

The 6700s are at River Division.

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, ethan2226 said:

The 6700s are at River Division.

At least preemptively. They must have decided to get the remaining 6600s off 606 and 616, but it shouldn't take too many to do that.

[Busjack]

The imponderables raised here:

• 6573 and 6574 showed up about 10 months after 6575, which showed up at SW about when the 654xs were being put into service.
• We don't know how many 6700s. Just a small order to take care of immediate needs (such as 6392-6399) or the full approx. 76 in the budget?
• We don't really know about what takes care of the Orions and 2003 NABIs at West.
• Sort of like SW a year and a half ago, we don't know what takes care of N and about half of NS, but I am still assuming that the reference to 35 foot buses applied to N. Also, we don't know if the Pace/CTA study and Edens BOS project require more buses at NS.

[rotjohns]

Well, there goes the idea of the 6700s going to West. 

So as usual, West is the final resting place for the older buses as it was for NW and SW and so far for S.  And at this point, they'd have to be ran to the ground for them to be taken from there.  As Busjack stated, who knows what buses head to W, N, and NS, if at all, until we know how many 6700s come.  We don't know if the 6600s taken from River are heading for retirement, or given new life somewhere else.  We also don't know when, if at all, the small buses that were supposed to handle the feeder routes will come and replace the 2600s.

The blue 2006 Nabis are starting to show their age too, I saw one on 95th/Halsted about 2 weeks ago (probably was 352, but I couldn't catch it to be sure) and it was rusted pretty good around the back door area.  They are eligible for retirement next year and it could be one reason why they haven't been moving from South back to West with the 17500s coming in more frequently. 

[Busjack]

6704 now on 606, along with 6703 and 6705

I see @Pace831 had 6705 at South Holland last Friday, but also numbers up to 6710 there and 6712 at Chandler. I doubt that more are going to River.