Busjack Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, artthouwill said: As far as independence, I meant as a non-owned entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Busjack said: I meant as a non-owned entity. Keeshin sold to Coach USA and thus was an owned entity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus fanatic30 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 13 hours ago, artthouwill said: That's crazy. I guess the MV Transportations and the First Transits of the world laid a blueprint and a lot if small paratransit operators cashed in. This seems to be working better than private contractors for transit agencies and it didn't work as well for Coach USA and Travelways (Vector). Historically company owners that sell get contracts from the buyer to continue to run the company, hence CDT and SCR management still run the companies. Sam Van Galder still ran Van Galder Bus after he sold to Coach USA. From what I can tell considering these buyouts, I only know of one owner who sold, gor a contract to continue to run the company but was forced out before that contract expired These buyouts are putting the squeeze on DBE companies or the number of DBEs that can do business with Pace. Unless minority owned school bus companies can get in the game somehow, the big boys have the Pace contracts locked. Art's Transportation was the last (school bus) company to lise the Oace city paratransit contract. They also list the Board of Education contract which put them out of business He wasn't a minority owner, but the point is that school bus companies may be large enough to challenge the current companies for future contracts. That’s true, the original owners “still” run the company up until we( National Express)got the new pace contact. Once everything was final, National Express fully took over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 highest number I seen so far was 22077 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 7:16 PM, artthouwill said: Keeshin sold to Coach USA and thus was an owned entity CUSA bought out the various companies they took over, but would keep previous management in charge. If they took over several in an area, usually (but not always, like in NJ) they got consolidated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 6:46 AM, busfan2847 said: Yes that is it. RTA had C&E built buses many, many years ago (1970s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 Does anyone have any info on the RL1000, ML2000, CL3000, and FL4000 series mini buses that are roaming all around Chicago? And does anyone have current fleet locations of all the paratransit vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said: Does anyone have any info on the RL1000, ML2000, CL3000, and FL4000 series mini buses that are roaming all around Chicago? And does anyone have current fleet locations of all the paratransit vehicles? I'm sure this has been covered before, but CL vehicles are assigned to CDT, ML are assigned to MV Transit. RL are assigned to SCR . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, artthouwill said: I'm sure this has been covered before, but CL vehicles are assigned to CDT, ML are assigned to MV Transit. RL are assigned to SCR . Oh ok since I didn't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 hours ago, artthouwill said: I'm sure this has been covered before, but CL vehicles are assigned to CDT, ML are assigned to MV Transit. RL are assigned to SCR . If you read on the prior page, they are not only assigned to the contractors, but are owned by them; some have stickers so indicating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 Is there a listing providing how much vehicles each company has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said: Is there a listing providing how much vehicles each company has? I would imagine that you would have to study their individual fleets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, artthouwill said: I would imagine that you would have to study their individual fleets. I see now. These buses also replaced minivans and gray buses in 2020 or 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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