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On 10/22/2026 at 2:40 AM, Bus1883 said:

Yep, Chicago garage still has #1982 and #2019 since they’ve both entered service there in the early half of 2009. #1950 is also there as well, with them being the last 3 standing.

I remember seeing #1950 out of 77th when it first arrived, all buses numbered 1930-2029 are 2008 models and not 2009 as I always assumed. With #2029 being the last numbered in this series, it was delivered in June 2008. It was retired in 2023.

Yea most of those been retired by now its still a few left I saw 2006 rolling one time I was back outwest 

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On 10/30/2026 at 2:03 PM, Bus1807 said:

Ahhh so if maintenance gets too expensive to repair, it runs until it’s capable of not being safe to drive/ride OR it breaks down and can’t be repaired. That’s what happened with #2006.

But 2006 still running i saw it not too long ago when I was outwest at the barbershop 

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2 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

Looks brand new, can’t believe they were above to fix it.

I’m guessing they took the whole front frame of the bus off and then replaced it with a new frame because it looked like it had some frame damage in the accident. 

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11 hours ago, Sam92 said:

I wonder if the 6HP594C was a bad match up for the 1430-1630 range because they still had the heavier frames trying to use a smaller transmission. Seems like the 1630s handled it just fine 

It goes back to that is an 18-19 year old transmission. At the time, most bus transmissions were 3 speed, and we thought a 6-speed ZF was really fast. Now, it is worn out.

But I really wonder what CTA is going to do, with the rehab solicitation canceled, in light of the following in the NITA plan:

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2 hours ago, Busjack said:

It goes back to that is an 18-19 year old transmission. At the time, most bus transmissions were 3 speed, and we thought a 6-speed ZF was really fast. Now, it is worn out.

But I really wonder what CTA is going to do, with the rehab solicitation canceled, in light of the following in the NITA plan:

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Speaking of 3 speed, there are still some 3 speeder d40lf’s in the fleet, no?

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13 hours ago, Busjack said:

It goes back to that is an 18-19 year old transmission. At the time, most bus transmissions were 3 speed, and we thought a 6-speed ZF was really fast. Now, it is worn out.

But I really wonder what CTA is going to do, with the rehab solicitation canceled, in light of the following in the NITA plan:

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Well yeah now age would explain it but I remember issues similar to what @YoungBusLover brought up with that range happening on 95E and I haven't been on that route since 2013 so at 7 years old it's gotta be something else. Was a 15## something and once it got up to like 20-25 mph it got stuck on a gear and couldn't accelerate any further. Luckily it was evening so there wasn't much traffic to deal with trying to make the left at Cottage with a bus that can't match speed enough to change lanes. 1430-1929 share that same transmission but only 1630 and up got lighter frames if I remember correctly 🤔

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11 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Speaking of 3 speed, there are still some 3 speeder d40lf’s in the fleet, no?

I can't answer that one. Someone like @sw4400 kept track of that stuff. i was referring to buses of the 1990s (what I was riding were mostly Orions and Gilligs) that had compressed air control, and you could hear them fart, and downshift on braking. 

21 minutes ago, Sam92 said:

Well yeah now age would explain it but I remember issues similar to what @YoungBusLover brought up with that range happening on 95E and I haven't been on that route since 2013 so at 7 years old it's gotta be something else. Was a 15## something and once it got up to like 20-25 mph it got stuck on a gear and couldn't accelerate any further. Luckily it was evening so there wasn't much traffic to deal with trying to make the left at Cottage with a bus that can't match speed enough to change lanes. 1430-1929 share that same transmission but only 1630 and up got lighter frames if I remember correctly 🤔

1630 up got the lighter frames, and supposedly smaller engines, both in the name of fuel economy.

The transmissions stuck in gear sound similar to the posts about 4000s being stuck in gear. People thought it was the "CVT" emulation in the Allison hybrid, but it was just stuck in first.

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