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NP is known for trash maintenance, as far as i see NP is getting ahold of the rest of the novas with Chicago Ave. (bring 1589 back to F😏😏)2 points
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The original 1000 in the photograph had chassis number 28549 and was returned to New Flyer. The first 20 delivered (1001-1020) had chassis numbers 29081-29100. The current 1000 has chassis number 31602 which puts its delivery between 1429 (30731) and 1430 (31793) - 2nd 1000, 1429, 1430 chassis numbers from CTA official lists.2 points
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The Prudentual/Aon service was originally ran by a company called CSI ( Continental Shuttle Inc). They ran 8 MC -8 coaches. That company also had the Midway Parking Lot Shuttle. That portion of the operation and its buses were purchased from Continental Air Transport as Continental Air Transport was shifting away from buses and focusing more on Airport Express shuttle van service. In the mid 1990s, CSI was purchased by Sam Van Gander ( of Van Gander Bus in Janesville, WI) and the company was renamed Greatway. They purchased 8 Dina's to run the Prudential/Aon Service. Around 1999 Sam Van Gander sold Van Gander and Greatway to Coach USA. A roof collapse at its garage at 17th and Prairie forced the Greatway operation to move in with the Keeshin operation as Keeshin was already a Coach USA owned company. Eventually the Coach USA operation moved to 4400 S Racine . The Prudential/Aon contract led them to receive a contract from Michigan Plaza which operated 4 buses. Eventually the Prudential/ Aon Dina buses were replaced by MCI J coaches until about 2016 when Prudential/Aon people decided to go green and went electric. That is when Standard Parking got the electric buses. I also have to mention that Coach USA woynd down its Charter Operations in 2011 and wound down their contract operations in 2012 to focus on their Megabus operation. I don't recall who ran the service from 2012 to 2016. My first two guesses would be Free Enterprise and Aries Charter, but I can't recall who ran it.2 points
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Continuing with this one for 100 NFI XE60 delivery update including the new 4th bus division construction in Homestead, One of the other new units were delivered from few weeks ago at MDT bus yard; Photo credit belongs to John T. Gamble, used with his permission. Painted in CNG livery instead of Metro Express Livery from few months ago; Unit E24542 with 4-door configuration for South Dade BRT with clear frameless Thermoguard windows similar to Broward County Units. Numbers started at #E24539 and up. Part of 60 bus order for South Dade BRT numbered #E23500s, E24500s. And #E25518 with 2 door configuration assigned for local use in South Miami Dade with clear frameless Thermoguard windows similar to Broward County Units. Part of 40 bus order numbered in #E25500s. And the 4th new bus division will be completed by next year. Hope I can get some photos of new units when I go to Miami sometime this year.1 point
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For two days last week, I was in Boston fanning the MBTA system. As in typical summer it was steamy and sometime rainy but productive. Here are some photos and videos: Buses & Trackless Trolleys New Flyer DE60LFR #1220 at Mattapan Station. 1220 is one of 25 brand new Hybrids purchased by MBTA and used on Route 28 from Mattapan to Ruggles Orange Line Station: Sliver Line Routes 4 & 5 operate between Dudley Station and Downtown. Here is Neoplan CNG AN460LF #1013 inside the terminal. This is one of 44 buses added to the fleet in 2003 and is known as Neoplan's only CNG artic venture: Leaving Watertown Square is Neoplan AN440LF Trackless Trolley #4119 heading westbound to Harvard Station. 4119 is one of 28 purchased to retire the then 27 year old Flyer E800s. Side Note: The operator of this bus was awesomely nice to me and the other two fans, even stopping to talk to us while outside Harvard Station: Nova RTS-06 #0298 outside the Harvard Station Tunnel on a return trip on Route 73. 0298 is one of approx. 125 RTSs out of 400 purchased in 1994 & 1995 still in operation: New Flyer #0600, the first of 310 New Flyers purchased between 2006 & 2008 is seen taking layover at Wellington Orange Line Station: At Sullivan Square Station buses leave from a upper and lower section. Here is #0092 leaving from the lower while another RTS & New Flyer await passengers on the upper end: Neoplan AN460LF CNG #1033 is seen along Commonwealth Avenue on Route 39 near Northeastern University. 1033 is among 23 other 1000 series buses painted in the MBTA that serve Route 39 exclusively: NABI CNG 40LFW #2223 wrapped for Jet Blue on Route 66. 2223 is one of 299 NABI 40LFW CNG Buses MBTA purchased between 2000 & 2003 to retire their oldest GMC RTSs: Nova RTS #0388, seemingly freshly repainted and TMC RTS #0106 await to leave Haymarket with the former in Route to Salem Depot in Salem, Mass: A few minutes later, #1128 arrives on Route SL1 for passengers heading to Logan Airport. 1128 is one of eight buses purchased with Massport funds and are mainstays on the SL1: Videos: New Flyer DE60LFR #1220: Cummins ISL/Allison EP40 Hybrid Drive Neoplan AN460LF #1013: Detroit Diesel Series 50/Allison B500R Transmission Neoplan AN440LF #0453: Caterpillar C9/Allison B400R Transmission TMC RTS-06 #0092: Detroit Diesel Series 50/ Allison V731 Transmission NABI 40LFW CNG #2026: Cummins C Gas/Allison B400R Transmission New Flyer D40LF #0718: Cummins ISL/Allison B400R Transmission Neoplan AN460LF Dual Mode #1128: DD60 Engine/Skoda Electrical MBTA Bus System Video:1 point
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Had 1589 Lastnight Broke Down While on Western This The 5th bus (flyer) That Broke Down On Me In The Lastweek CTA Needs To Get Rid Of The Flyers And Focus On Getting New Equipment1 point
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The oldest set still yet alive. CTA needs to do something soon, they should be added the heritage fleet, they’ve served their purpose.1 point
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We all know that delays caused artics to get pulled from certain routes... This link might give more details as far as how and why. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://tram.mcgill.ca/Research/Publications/Articulated_buses.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi-7JzH3cSOAxUstokEHSz8AOkQFnoECEkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1EceqYGY6oWaf2m8dg-y8b1 point
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Instead of being quick to cut supervisors in favor centralized dispatch/technology they need to redistribute some of these guys to repeat problem areas like 77, 22, 4 and other heavy routes. Seems like back in the day even though bus bunching was bad at least more supervisors were out on the street to redirect buses and fill in gaps quicker1 point
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from an industrial area to a mall back to an industrial area. What forward thinking planners we have. 😆1 point
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The others ones thats not 4300 the flex or the prototype 1000 & 8350 yea if they get sent back the garage1 point
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Why did you ask twice? They are there for mechanics' training purposes. As implied, that facility is the training center, until it moves to Lake and Pulaski.1 point
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Thats a good point but looking it up it's apparently still a BYD, just a different body style. If you look on BYD's website, the white one looks more like the K9M body style, while the others are K9MDs.1 point
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The white one appears to be a different model and does not have BYD plate on the front?1 point
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Maybe despite or spurred by my snide reply to "astute political analyst" @Glennwood Road Ent., 😁, the first Philadelphia Inquirer article does explain the situation. As I suspected, the situation is similar to that in Illinois, in that the transit advocates think "the Commonwealth has the money," but it doesn't, as indicated by the references to the state's structural deficit, and the scramble is about what to tax next. The article said one idea was to tax and regulate video gaming machines, which Illinois already does. The Pa difference is that July 1 was a hard deadline.1 point
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The Inquirer basically called it. The difference (now) is that the popular regional rail lines are cut due to funds owed to Amtrak ($65mil). This alone might pressure Shapiro to move the needle. Source (2) WHYY1 point
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That is correct, as 49 USC 5323(u) starts with "...financial assistance made available under this chapter shall not be used ...." JLL received a city environmental grant for the Proterras. but as far as I know, nothing has been said about these buses. As far as what RIDE's strategy might be, maybe it is heavy trucks and school buses (although Lion going bankrupt is a bad omen) or maybe it is looking for US capital to buy the spin-off (sort of like the Tik Tok situation), but if the article I cited above is correct that RIDE is a 100% owned subsidiary of BYD,* it still comes within 49 USC 5323(u) and is not eligible for federal transit funds. ------ *Note that ride.co repeatedly says it is a "spin off" but doesn't say who the current owner is.1 point
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They also have some buses on Manheim just north of the Tri State but south of Seymour Ave.1 point
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It's hard to tell how many buses they have as they don't publish a full roster. Approximately ~48 buses can be counted at their two storage lots at Grenshaw/Kolmar and Grenshaw/Kostner from aerials, but that wouldn't include any buses operating when the aerial was taken. They have a small garage also on Grenshaw, but I doubt they can do anything beyond basic maintenance there.1 point
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With regards to the BYD ban, what I could find seems to indicate it relates to public buses and public/federal funds. As such it would impose no barrier to a private operator like SP Plus operating a private corporate shuttle. They are technically "RIDE" buses, I just used BYD because it's the parent company and more known; the same way I still call them Dodge Rams even though "Ram" is technically a separate marquee now. I still suspect there's something odd with their registration, owing to the California manufacturer plates on two of the buses- notably, BYD's American factory is in California, so possibly there's some weird leasing or road-testing going on.1 point
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If you think you have news, you don't. @Busjack has been reading all the bankruptcy court legal papers for several years, including the sale of the Proterra transit assets to Phoenix Motorcars, and the papers indicating that CTA had its contract disaffirmed but then assigned it to Phoenix. I know you didn't read any of that, and I know you never took a bankruptcy course. You didn't even read up the thread, where this is all documented. Since you are relying on "rumor" and "unreliable transit forum" (your words) you don't know if PhoenixEV is actually delivering buses or parts. All you proved is that it has a website (which I just posted and you didn't). The only thing you demonstrated is that you know how to take a screenshot on your phone.1 point
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What if it is due to something else? Maybe you should read some reliable Pa news sources.1 point
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Related to your first question, were there issues with those buses? Compared to CTA. they ran successfully. The question is what's in the SP/Prudential/Aon contract? Some contracts have stipulations regarding equipment age. It's possible that newer equipment was a stipulation for renewing the contract, though from past experiences that's usually 12 years, not 8. But perhaps the reliability of the Proterras was getting bad enough that getting new buses was seen as a better solution than trying to repair the older buses. The sale of Proterra could have factored in as well.1 point
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Applicable to several recent posts, someone said to me today: “The past is in your head. The future is in your hands.” Besides that, the questions are (1) why were the Proterras retired after only at most 8 years, and (2) when were the BYDs acquired, which is relevant to (3) how did JLL get them, when Congress barred BYD? I was going to say that we won't get answers unless someone from JLL posts here, but clicking links brought up that RIDE is an American spin-off of BYD. So, maybe it's a RIDE bus. But the House Homeland Security Committee is still investigating.1 point
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Besides that, there's I also wonder about the status of the 22 Proterra-PhoenixEV buses on the Georgia contract that are loooong overdue, and if these procurements are in lieu of that, or for additional deliveries waaaay down the road Also, Pace must be satisfied with the 2 demonstrators, although they don't seem to have been on the road lately (last time 20700 was on @maths22's tracker was 5/28). Should be an interesting Board meeting. 🙃😄😁1 point
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I could see a plot twist coming where someone is going to lose a bunch of 8350s for 74ths 7900s more in the fashion of a milage swap. It’s been almost a year since the FG and 7 swap with the Novas, 74ths Novas are at their 10 year mark now.1 point
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Bumping as this seems to be "the thread" for Aries Charter buses. I've been able to photograph a fair number running routes in The Loop, a bunch seem to be running from 300 E Randolph, which makes Randolph & Michigan a great bus-spotting corner, as you can see a nice mixed fleet between CTA buses, the Aon-Pru BYDs, and Aries' Gilligs. I've included 302 here as an example, it's a 2007 Gillig BRT, secondhand from LYNX in Orlando, FL1 point
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Copy that, I had rode 3128 as headcar to O’Hare today with the rest of the train consisted of all 3200s. 3089-90 is still there along with two more 2600s didn’t get the numbers as the set was bound for Forest Park as it passed me at a fast speed when leaving Cumberland. 3099-3100 were parked in the yard for the night at Rosemont. The yard is inches away from becoming 100% 3200s and 7000s with a few work motors, even the shop itself. On the eastbound track side, 3181-82 is chocked while put on LTH either possibly awaiting to enter service or transfer off the line. Going to take a look at Desplaines and see what’s there, I believe it’s probably more 2600s over there than Rosemont.1 point
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I wouldn't say they're done for, C still has them on the active roster. However they're currently housed at 77th awaiting materials (Parts/other Miscellaneous) to be delivered. The ZX5s for whatever reason seem to be easier to work on and maintain than the BE40s. I dont know why that is though. HFE and HFM is what they're being held for. (Hold for Materials - Hold For Engineering). Every now and then they'll move them out of the bays to other parts of SS.1 point
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Today 3135 and 3136 are part of an 8 car consist being led by 3348 on the Blue Line.1 point
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Based on the drone shots posted in another thread, it has been revealed that these DE60LF buses are permanently retired and are on LTH in the boneyard: 4114, 4141, 4159, 4161, and 4202.1 point
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That was quick: 7227, 7228, 7229, 7230 are already in service, run 130.1 point
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#7157-58 (about damn time with those units), #7227-28, #7229-30, and #7233-34 were the rail cars.1 point
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Here's the updates: https://www.miamitimesonline.com/news/local/miami-dade-eyes-replacing-metromover-system-amid-rising-costs-frequent-shutdowns/article_3295ef32-7fe7-4425-b4e1-4e8149a487c1.html Metromover systems soon to be replaced https://floridapolitics.com/archives/743060-another-delay-miami-dades-upgraded-south-corridor-service-now-expected-to-roll-in-late-summer/ South Dade BRT pushed back this coming fall https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/video/tri-rail-train-collides-with-miami-dade-transit-bus-in-opa-locka/ And one unit was involved in accident by tri rail train in Opa Locka.1 point
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In that there is a turnaround in Columbus Park (Central-Harrison), and this is 2 miles from that,I doubt that's the reason. From the sign, it looks like the bus has prostate cancer.1 point
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Me niether I can't wait till they get rid of them completely I drove that bus once in training and thank God that was the only time lol.1 point
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To see so many Nova RTS buses still running and looking like they are in good shape is great! Great pics! I have always loved the Nova RTS buses.1 point
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Others: The Massachusetts Port Authority operates a shuttle service in and out of Logan Airport using Neoplan CNG AN440s from 1993. Here is #520 photographed at the Blue Line Station: Boston University also operates a shuttle service for students in and around the campus contracted out to Peter Pan. Here is Nova 40 foot RTS #3034, formerly of PVTA: Paul Revere Transportation Services runs various shuttle lines between Harvard, Northeastern University and other colleges that connect to several MBTA rail Stations. Here is New Flyer D40LF #9616, a second hand bus from an unknown Transit system at Northeastern Univ.: Neoplan AN440LF #559, a clone of Baltimore’s Neoplans is operating across Commonwealth Avenue between colleges. There are approx. 10-15 buses of this model in service: Crystal Transport operates two Routes to the University of Massachusetts using a assortment of first and second hand Transit and Coach Buses. New Flyer D40LF #631 is pictured leaving the main building on its way back to JFK UMASS Red Line Station: New Flyer D40LF #632, an Ex-Houston MTA Demo with a scrolling Balios sign awaits passengers: MCI 102DL3 #5537 on a shuttle service from Cambridge to UMASS: New Flyer DE40LF #638 seen on Route 2 that operates between the Subway Station and the JFK Library via the main building before returning to the Station: Two of the newest buses in the fleet are LFRs. 660 is a DE60LFR, possibly a demo from CATA in Lansing, Michigan. The second is 661, which has suburban seating and maybe a fresh purchase. 660: 661: Videos: Massport Shuttle CNG Neoplan AN440 #520: Cummins L10G/Allison B400R Transmission CNG Neoplan AN440 #533 (Without A/C) Crystal Transport D40LF #631: Detroit Diesel Series 50/Allison B400R Transmission Crystal Transport DE40LF #638: Cummins ISL/Allison EP40 Hybrid Drive Crystal Transport DE60LFR #660: Cummins ISL/Allison EP40Hybrid Drive Crystal Transport DE40LFR #661: Cummins ISL/Allison EP40 Hybrid Drive (Without A/C)1 point
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Subways & Trolleys: Green Line Breda Type 8 #3851 leads a two pack of cars heading outbound on Branch B to Boston College. 3851 is one of 100 Type 8s purchased by MBTA between 1999 & 2008: Green Line Kinki Sharyo Type 7 #3709 had just completed boarding passengers at Park Street Station. 3709 is one of twenty Type 7s purchased by MBTA in 1997 to retire the last of the Boeings: Kinki Sharyo Type 7 #3688 trails the end of a two car train leaving Haymarket Station. 3688 is one of 100 original Type 7s purchased between 1986 & 1988: Breda Type 8 #3880 seen on Commonwealth Avenue on the E Branch inbound to Lechmere Station: Type 7 #3620 returns inbound from the Heath Street Terminal of the E Branch Kinki Sharyo #3604 ascends the hill on Beacon Street on the C Branch to Cleveland Circle: Type 8 #3853 on the C Branch private right of way heading inbound towards North Station: Type 8 #3828 with all lights activated a mere three blocks from the tunnel taking C Branch trains into Downtown Boston: Historic PCC #3254 at Mattapan Station at the end of the Mattapan-Ashmont High Speed Line: In this second photo, a alternative destination sign adorns #3238, also photographed at Mattapan: Videos: Bombardier Red Line Car #01847: Hawker Siddley Orange Line Car #01233: Siemens Blue Line Car #0782 Kinki Sharyo Type 7 #3644 on the E Branch inside the tunnel: Breda Type 8 #3882 on the B Branch to Boston University Mattapan-Ashmont PCC #3238: Full Route Ride Green Line Trolley System Video: MBTA Subway System Video:1 point
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These buses will last until the 2030s and receive a rebuild rather than getting replacements for those 2600s by Pace.0 points
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