Hello Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 22300 entered service on 8/31 (834) 22301 entered service on 9/14 (512) 22302 entered service on 10/26 (832) 22303 entered service on 10/29 (509) 22304 entered service on 8/31 (834) 22305 entered service on 9/9 (512) 22306 entered service on 10/25 (511) 22312 entered service on 11/12 (509) This is the order of the buses that are in service and what route and day they went into service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 On Pace Fox Valley Garage 2021 ElDorado axess #20300-#20323 On Pace Heritage 2022 ElDorado axess #22300-22330 Can someone update this on Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Gil said: On Pace Heritage 2022 ElDorado axess #22300-22330 Can someone update this on Wikipedia Unless you have some inside information, public sources indicate this isn't verified. Stuff like Wikipedia isn't authoritative (although I see that after 2 years, someone finally fixed CPTDB wiki, which had 20324-20399 and some as 20500s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policeman Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 22309 hit service on the 834 (12/1) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 22300 entered service on 8/31 (834) 22301 entered service on 9/14 (512) 22302 entered service on 10/26 (832) 22303 entered service on 10/29 (509) 22304 entered service on 8/31 (834) 22305 entered service on 9/9 (512) 22306 entered service on 10/25 (511) 22309 entered service on 12/1 (834) 22312 entered service on 11/12 (509) 22314 entered service on 12/21 (501) 22315 entered service on 12/20 (834) 22318 entered service on 12/22 (508) 22320 has entered service on 12/21 (507) 22322 entered service on 12/16 (511) Updated list as of December 22, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 CPTDB sent me to The Transit Camera's Flikr. 22300s are in the photosream that starts here. Strange that they have a rear door and apparently little seating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 9:01 PM, Busjack said: CPTDB sent me to The Transit Camera's Flikr. 22300s are in the photosream that starts here. Strange that they have a rear door and apparently little seating. OK so it wasn't just me that the back door on a 30-foot bus is strange. I saw one up close yesterday on the 834 and thought that was really odd. This picture show max seating accommodations of 18 people. Seems low to me, but maybe that's the new norm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, rotjohns said: OK so it wasn't just me that the back door on a 30-foot bus is strange. I saw one up close yesterday on the 834 and thought that was really odd. This picture show max seating accommodations of 18 people. Seems low to me, but maybe that's the new norm? CTA Optimas also had a back door, but I don't think that wide. I thought that when I personally saw 20300s in Naperville, they didn't, and the difference is confirmed in two of Chicagoland Transit's videos: 20300 22300 Update: It doesn't look like that, as of when the videos were taken, most of the signs were updated to reflect the Joliet TC (one was, but the others were Joliet/Webster). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, rotjohns said: OK so it wasn't just me that the back door on a 30-foot bus is strange. I saw one up close yesterday on the 834 and thought that was really odd. This picture show max seating accommodations of 18 people. Seems low to me, but maybe that's the new norm? There are 17 fixed seats in the rear section and 8 folding seats in the front low floor section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, busfan2847 said: There are 17 fixed seats in the rear section and 8 folding seats in the front low floor section. Not quite as bad as what it looked in the flikr picture, and compares to 27 in the others. But like the 35' NABIs, the front section is not worth much if the 2 wheelchair positions are used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Busjack said: Not quite as bad as what it looked in the flikr picture, and compares to 27 in the others. But like the 35' NABIs, the front section is not worth much if the 2 wheelchair positions are used. There are three wheelchair positions (2 x 3-seat tip up and 1 x 2 seat tip up.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 22300-22312, 22314-22322 are all in service with Heritage according to Bus Tracker. 22308, 22310 & 22316 were the last to enter service on 3/30. 22333 entered service with River on 3/28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 4/1/2023 at 12:38 PM, busfan2847 said: 22300-22312, 22314-22322 are all in service with Heritage according to Bus Tracker. 22308, 22310 & 22316 were the last to enter service on 3/30. 22333 entered service with River on 3/28 And there are no 2700s out as of right now. Unless any come out during the PM rush, I think we've seen the end of them at Heritage. It'll be interesting to see where 22323-22332 land as this report accounts for 22 buses, less than the 2700s they're replacing (2742-2764 and 2766). EDIT: 22331, 22334, and 22344 are out at River now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 1 hour ago, rotjohns said: And there are no 2700s out as of right now. Unless any come out during the PM rush, I think we've seen the end of them at Heritage. It'll be interesting to see where 22323-22332 land as this report accounts for 22 buses, less than the 2700s they're replacing (2742-2764 and 2766). EDIT: 22331, 22334, and 22344 are out at River now. Their buses have it's new garage in Plainfield, it's not in Joliet anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 6 hours ago, rotjohns said: And there are no 2700s out as of right now. Unless any come out during the PM rush, I think we've seen the end of them at Heritage. It'll be interesting to see where 22323-22332 land as this report accounts for 22 buses, less than the 2700s they're replacing (2742-2764 and 2766). EDIT: 22331, 22334, and 22344 are out at River now. The Transition plan says that 25 22300s were delivered and 25 are still on order (page 35). So maybe it gets to 22350, although RevGroup announced 44. It also indicates that the fleet will decrease by about 130 buses. It also says that 38 30' buses will have to be replaced by BEBs. 38 buses now to R seems like too much considering the BEB schedule, and we would already be up to 60. (38 might include the 7 Schaumburg Trolleys). Also, the question would be what Pace intends to do with Niles (11 buses) and MV routes 711 and 715 (6 buses), not to mention that FV is still running a couple of old 30' buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 Here is the list of all of the 2022 and anything after 8/31 was in 2022 on to 2023 22300 entered service on 8/31 (834) 22301 entered service on 9/14 (512) 22302 entered service on 10/26 (832) 22303 entered service on 10/29 (509) 22304 entered service on 8/31 (834) 22305 entered service on 9/9 (512) 22306 entered service on 10/25 (511) 22307 entered service on 2/22 (508) 22308 entered service on 3/30 (508) 22309 entered service on 12/1 (834) 22310 entered service on 3/30 (505) 22311 entered service on 3/9 (507) 22312 entered service on 11/12 (509) 22314 entered service on 12/21 (501) 22315 entered service on 12/20 (834) 22316 entered service on 3/30 (834) 22317 entered service on 3/15 (509) 22318 entered service on 12/22 (508) 22320 entered service on 12/21 (507) 22321 entered service on 3/8 (501) 22322 entered service on 12/16 (511) 22325 entered service on 4/6 (543) 22331 entered service on 4/5 (547) 22333 entered service on 3/28 (549) 22334 entered service on 4/5 (550) 22335 entered service on 4/6 (550) 22336 entered service on 4/6 (543) 22341 entered service on 4/6 (554) 22344 entered service on 4/5 (543) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Busjack said: The Transition plan says that 25 22300s were delivered and 25 are still on order (page 35). So maybe it gets to 22350, although RevGroup announced 44. It also indicates that the fleet will decrease by about 130 buses. It also says that 38 30' buses will have to be replaced by BEBs. 38 buses now to R seems like too much considering the BEB schedule, and we would already be up to 60. (38 might include the 7 Schaumburg Trolleys). Also, the question would be what Pace intends to do with Niles (11 buses) and MV routes 711 and 715 (6 buses), not to mention that FV is still running a couple of old 30' buses. And don't forget Bridgeview and NW still has a handful of them. Will they stick around after all this? MV has that 12000 El Dorado from Dekalb running too (not on Bustracker, but it was at Brookhaven Plaza yesterday). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 hours ago, rotjohns said: And don't forget Bridgeview and NW still has a handful of them. Will they stick around after all this? But it's not like NW & SW need them. By contrast, the trend doesn't seem like local service out of H, FV, and R are going to run 40' buses, and Niles certainly isn't either. And, to get even more afield, there are still the more than 40 buses that are sitting around after the feeders were pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 3:16 AM, Hello said: Here is the list of all of the 2022 and anything after 8/31 was in 2022 on to 2023 @maths22's tracker has everything between 22323-22344 except 22329 and 22343 at R. As I noted above, the questions are whether that's essentially it, and whether that's consistent with the consultant's report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 4:16 PM, Busjack said: @maths22's tracker has everything between 22323-22344 except 22329 and 22343 at R. As I noted above, the questions are whether that's essentially it, and whether that's consistent with the consultant's report. 22329 on @maths22's tracker as of 4/22. 22343 as of 4/21. That seems to be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 Pace is going to make the 2600s run as long as humanly possible, might as well. They have so many out there from the feeder cuts still that they're not utilizing and it sounds like some of the former Heritage buses are still in good enough shape to move them instead of the scraper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, rotjohns said: Pace is going to make the 2600s run as long as humanly possible, might as well. They have so many out there from the feeder cuts still that they're not utilizing and it sounds like some of the former Heritage buses are still in good enough shape to move them instead of the scraper. #2752 is at Fox Valley Garage which will replace the 2600s Series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, rotjohns said: Pace is going to make the 2600s run as long as humanly possible, might as well. They have so many out there from the feeder cuts still that they're not utilizing and it sounds like some of the former Heritage buses are still in good enough shape to move them instead of the scraper. It looks like MV's 2726-2735 are OOS. Tracker indicates substitutes are 2744, 2747, 2762 (plus 2808, 2812 that it had from the Westmont contract). 2743, 2751, 2764 are still on H routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Busjack said: It looks like MV's 2726-2735 are OOS. Tracker indicates substitutes are 2744, 2747, 2762 (plus 2808, 2812 that it had from the Westmont contract). 2743, 2751, 2764 are still on H routes. Plus MV has 2697/2698 as well as the Green El Dorado that isn't on the tracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotjohns Posted April 26, 2023 Report Share Posted April 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Gil said: #2752 is at Fox Valley Garage which will replace the 2600s Series 2621 and 2627 are currently still out there. How long is anybody's guess. The late 2600 are also still there. Don't expect 2676 to be gone too quickly, that bus was OOS for months during it's rehab. If anything, it could get moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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