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Clock is ticking to the arrival of XX00, the first of 300* Nova LFS Smart Buses arriving in 2014. Only 28 days in February... which day will the newest addition to the CTA fleet arrive for it's Press Release and first garage assignment???

*= Option for additional 150 Nova LFS Smart Buses available, but not yet exercised

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I don't know if this means anything but if you look under the vendors receiving CTA payments on the CTA website, CTA has started making payments on 1/31/14 to novabus on the nova smart lfs bus contract. Would they make payments on something that they don't have? Curious enough they have yet to make a payment on the all electric Excelsiors from New Flyer.

You are onto something. Invoices for $244K seem a bit low, but the contract number is correct.

The answer is in the solicitation, which says that 50% is payable when driveable at the manufacturer's plant. Therefore, that milestone has been met for two buses. They are almost complete, but still in Plattsburgh.

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You are onto something. Invoices for $244K seem a bit low, but the contract number is correct. The answer is in the solicitation, which says that 50% is payable when driveable at the manufacturer's plant. Therefore, that milestone has been met for two buses. They are almost complete, but still in Plattsburgh. attachicon.gifmilestones.jpg

So does this mean they are going to take shipment within 30 days as per the contract? It sounds like CTA inspectors have cleared the ok for a payment to be made. So shipment within 30 days is a reasonable assumption?

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So does this mean they are going to take shipment within 30 days as per the contract? It sounds like CTA inspectors have cleared the ok for a payment to be made. So shipment within 30 days is a reasonable assumption?

The wording of the excerpt indicates that CTA pays within 30 days of getting the invoice. So, they might have been driveable Dec. 31. However, only someone inside the Plattsburgh plant would know how long it would be to meet the second milestone, which would be the CTA inspector releasing it for delivery.

If you are using the Vendor Database to track delivery, milestone 3 is the one to track, which is 15% when the bus is conditionally put into service. At least then you know it is on the property. So, be on the lookout for payments of $73,200 and $14,640, and then you know they are on the property (at least for 30 days).

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But again to clarify, the 30 days are after invoice.

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At the moment, I don't think we have the space for artics. We currently have a stock of 308 artics system-wide, which is the most we've had since starting to use artics in 1979. We would've had 534 artics if the NABI's weren't such shoddy buses and forced into early retirement due to a negligent build job.

I believe the CTA was planning on working with NABI on shipping out the buses back to Anniston, AL to undergo emergency repairs with the 150 New Flyer DE60LF order piggybacked from Seattle. Of course that fell through

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At the moment, I don't think we have the space for artics. We currently have a stock of 308 artics system-wide, which is the most we've had since starting to use artics in 1979. We would've had 534 artics if the NABI's weren't such shoddy buses and forced into early retirement due to a negligent build job.

I believe the CTA was planning on working with NABI on shipping out the buses back to Anniston, AL to undergo emergency repairs with the 150 New Flyer DE60LF order piggybacked from Seattle. Of course that fell through

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Apparently you believed fraud, both on the part of the NABI press release and Huberman with his 3 for 4 PowerPoint, on the abject necessity of obtaining the 150 Seattle options. I believed that latter at the time, but not when it was said "don't worry about the NABIs being pulled; there is an adequate number of accordion buses from another manufacturer."

It was manifest when NABI posted that press release about the recall that CTA wasn't going to accept that "offer" to recall the buses, and Rodriguez blew the doors off of Huberman's deception by having said that Huberman had been in negotiations with the FTA to write off the FTA investment in the NABIs.

Of course, when these frauds were published, CTA still had the Archer garage.

BTW, don't forget that we still need hybrid artics for the Ashland BRT, which Streetsblog says is only days away. :rolleyes:

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On 1/13/2013 at 9:55 PM, sw4400 said:

 

 

So this would be an engine fire?

 

On 11/8/2013 at 11:13 AM, sw4400 said:

 

The model may vary based on this one here. ZF didn't meet CTA specs in New Flyer's questions for whatever reason, but we don't even know what their questions were. If the CTA is trying to save $$ here and there, I think ZF might be a less expensive, tried and true reliable transmission manufacturer for the buses. I don't know prices, but I'm sure that Allison Transmissions like on the New Flyer D40LF, DE60LF and DE60LFR and D60LFR(1930-2029, 4000-4207 and possibly 4300-4399?*) are more expensive to pair with the Cummins ISL9. CTA, to my knowledge, never used Voith transmissions, probably due to cost and/or reliability. I'll agree that the bus does seem noisy, but that could just be a badly torn up street the bus was driving on, hence the crashing. I've been on New Flyers that do the same on bad stretches of city streets myself.

I know this is a extremely old post but cta had voith transmission on 10 of the cummins powered 5740 series flxibles 

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