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[EasyMoney]

Not tryna start a debate but can somebody tell me why 77th gave up they Artics i just transferred over here and I been operating the 4 lately and everyday my bus been packed to capacity and every other bus I seen aslo I feel like the 8,3 needs them as well. I aslo heard the 77th might trade the 4 to 103rd in exchange for 29

[Bus1807]

4 minutes ago, EasyMoney said:

Not tryna start a debate but can somebody tell me why 77th gave up they Artics i just transferred over here and I been operating the 4 lately and everyday my bus been packed to capacity and every other bus I seen aslo I feel like the 8,3 needs them as well. I aslo heard the 77th might trade the 4 to 103rd in exchange for 29

The 29 has been at 77th before. Don’t know why it got changed to 103rd.

[Sam92]

30 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

The 29 has been at 77th before. Don’t know why it got changed to 103rd.

To balance swings and interline for more economical runs at 95th. All of this is detailed in the spring 2008 topic. 

[Sam92]

36 minutes ago, EasyMoney said:

Not tryna start a debate but can somebody tell me why 77th gave up they Artics i just transferred over here and I been operating the 4 lately and everyday my bus been packed to capacity and every other bus I seen aslo I feel like the 8,3 needs them as well. I aslo heard the 77th might trade the 4 to 103rd in exchange for 29

Going by the schedule changes back when they tried to convert 66 and 79 it seems they planned on cutting 3-5 buses off each route by using artics but the added run times didn't allow that meaning they ended up assigning 40 buses for routes that ended up needing 45

[Busjack]

33 minutes ago, Sam92 said:

Going by the schedule changes back when they tried to convert 66 and 79 it seems they planned on cutting 3-5 buses off each route by using artics but the added run times didn't allow that meaning they ended up assigning 40 buses for routes that ended up needing 45

That was more of a Huberman fraudulent idea to cover that the 4000s were needed because the 7500s were falling apart. Artics were used on 4 and 79 on and off, but didn't work mixed with 40' buses.

[Sam92]

50 minutes ago, Busjack said:

That was more of a Huberman fraudulent idea to cover that the 4000s were needed because the 7500s were falling apart. Artics were used on 4 and 79 on and off, but didn't work mixed with 40' buses.

Whatever showed up on 4 and 79 during the NABI and 4000s were probably extras that didn't get used on the 6 probably similar to them popping up frequently on 52 at K so those weren't officially artic routes. @jajuanalso noted that 148 used the same amount of buses after conversion along with the artic fiasco shooting down implementation of the 2-3 plan you're bringing up. However 79 became exclusively artic Oct. 2013. Using way back machine and archived schedules similarly scheduled periods went from "every 2-3 min...." (prior to conversion) to "every 3-5 min..." so a 2-3 cut wasn't made but a few buses were definitely removed; those slight increases along with the eventual split of roughly 40 to C for 66 and 40 to 77th for 79 look like they tried to go from maybe 45 buses for each with 40fts to and 40 each with artics but the dwell times and failure to account for extra running time as @andrethebusmannoted led to the failure. This just wasn't as extreme as Huberman's plan which turned out to be a cover up for the Nabi fluke. 

[Busjack]

2 hours ago, Sam92 said:

Whatever showed up on 4 and 79 during the NABI and 4000s were probably extras that didn't get used on the 6

At least with the diesel 4300s, they were regular, made available when the Dan Ryan Red Line closure ended.

[dailycommuter62]

With changing clocks time of the year how do ctas overnight schedules compensate for going back or forward a hour or essentially a 23 or 25 hour day?

[Bus1807]

39 minutes ago, dailycommuter62 said:

With changing clocks time of the year how do ctas overnight schedules compensate for going back or forward a hour or essentially a 23 or 25 hour day?

Schedules most likely stay the same since daylight savings start at 2am and most routes that run at that time are night owl services meaning only those operators get an extra hour to work.

[EasyMoney]

8 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Schedules most likely stay the same since daylight savings start at 2am and most routes that run at that time are night owl services meaning only those operators get an extra hour to work.

567 Sends Updated run paddles for overnight runs just a extra hour we gotta work basically add a half a trip To the run paddles. when I first started I had to work during this 

[Bus1807]

8 hours ago, EasyMoney said:

567 Sends Updated run paddles for overnight runs just a extra hour we gotta work basically add a half a trip To the run paddles. when I first started I had to work during this 

That makes sense. I figured most schedules would remain the same, but I didn’t realize the overnight operators would need updated run paddles to account for the extra hour. Thanks for explaining that.

[Sam92]

29 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

That makes sense. I figured most schedules would remain the same, but I didn’t realize the overnight operators would need updated run paddles to account for the extra hour. Thanks for explaining that.

 

8 hours ago, EasyMoney said:

567 Sends Updated run paddles for overnight runs just a extra hour we gotta work basically add a half a trip To the run paddles. when I first started I had to work during this 

So does that mean you guys get lucky on spring forward and get off earlier?

[Bus1807]

25 minutes ago, Sam92 said:

 

So does that mean you guys get lucky on spring forward and get off earlier?

Most likely.

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, Sam92 said:

 

So does that mean you guys get lucky on spring forward and get off earlier?

 

1 hour ago, Bus1807 said:

Most likely.

But probably lose an hour of pay.

[EasyMoney]

On 10/31/2026 at 9:44 AM, Busjack said:

 

But probably lose an hour of pay.

You know that cta ant giving out free money 😂

[Bus1807]

#1525 has a really weird block id on the 134. I never see Kedzie buses that have 50 block ids. I usually only see artics with it.

[Sam92]

5 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

#1525 has a really weird block id on the 134. I never see Kedzie buses that have 50 block ids. I usually only see artics with it.

I've been seeing that K run for a couple years but I think it's usually an artic. Idk K has been funny acting with its artics lately. I don't think they use them on weekends anymore 

[Sam92]

Speaking of artics at K is this the first time they stopped running artics on weekends? Or did they originally do this before 12 and 151 became artic routes?

[Busjack]

7 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

#1525 has a really weird block id on the 134. I never see Kedzie buses that have 50 block ids. I usually only see artics with it.

With my apologies to @EasyMoney (I admit I'm not on the inside), the listing is mathematically screwy, because 50 is a NP route, but this is a K bus, as indicated by other blocks on 21 and other K routes.

[Bus1807]

1 hour ago, Busjack said:

With my apologies to @EasyMoney (I admit I'm not on the inside), the listing is mathematically screwy, because 50 is a NP route, but this is a K bus, as indicated by other blocks on 21 and other K routes.

Is that why it never went to the 50 afterwards? Even if it did, kedzie 40 ft new flyers are rare.

[EasyMoney]

4 hours ago, Busjack said:

With my apologies to @EasyMoney (I admit I'm not on the inside), the listing is mathematically screwy, because 50 is a NP route, but this is a K bus, as indicated by other blocks on 21 and other K routes.

You know the (50 damen) is shared by Kedzie and north park with kedzie particularly doing the school runs for damen  as well with the 82 is shared by both garages but Np Doing the school runs for the 82 only we never did a regular run on the 82 while I was at north park @Busjack

[Busjack]

44 minutes ago, EasyMoney said:

You know the (50 damen) is shared by Kedzie and north park with kedzie particularly doing the school runs for damen  as well with the 82 is shared by both garages but Np Doing the school runs for the 82 only we never did a regular run on the 82 while I was at north park @Busjack

So you figure this was a school run, and then interlined with 143?

[EasyMoney]

32 minutes ago, Busjack said:

So you figure this was a school run, and then interlined with 143?

Yeah most likely it was 

[EasyMoney]

Let me ask y'all A serious Question Y'all think by Nita combining CTA,Pace,Metra Under One Umbrella a good thing? .Thats means cta cant do anything without getting approval from nita first correct ? Or everything goes nita and cta got to listen to them no matter what ? how this works 

[Sam92]

5 minutes ago, EasyMoney said:

Let me ask y'all A serious Question Y'all think by Nita combining CTA,Pace,Metra Under One Umbrella a good thing? .Thats means cta cant do anything without getting approval from nita first correct ? Or everything goes nita and cta got to listen to them no matter what ? how this works 

Seems like NITA is in charge of planning service and the agencies under them supply the service based on how NITA determines is best. Based off what's going on so far it looks like NITA is starting with cleaning up messes in the overlapping areas that CTA/ pace couldn't get right in last restructurings and RTA pretty much let happen.