8350-series Nova LFS - Updates

[RJL6000]

If you haven’t noticed:

8787 was transferred from 77th to Chicago (7 to C) this past Thursday after the morning rush.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

8800 is active at north park but the driver has it logged in with “P999”

[YoungBusLover]

Here are the newest arrivals at SS over that past couple of weeks are #8816, #8832, #8835 - #8839, #8847, #8849 - #8852, #8855, #8856, #8862, #8866, #8868 & #8869. (16 total) 

Other notes, #8813 entered service yesterday out of NP and 8798 has entered service this morning out of NP, #8786 and #8805 have also entered service earlier this week out of NP.

[YoungBusLover]

#8806 has entered service out of NP boosting there total up to 49.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Along with 8800, now that 8814 is in service, the total will now be 51 buses at north park, meaning some buses will be retiring from there.

[YoungBusLover]

#8840 and #8848 were delivered earlier this week to SS.

[YoungBusLover]

#8874 and #8877 are SS.

[YoungBusLover]

#8857 - 59, #8861, #8864 - 65, #8876, #8884, #8897 and #8899 have been delivered to SS.  (10 Total) 

[Policeman]

#8881-#8882 Delivered to SS

[Chammon Moore]

8812 had hit service earlier on the 120 PM rush at Chicago

[YoungBusLover]

#8889 is at SS.

[artthouwill]

53 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said:

#8889 is at SS.

The Novas are rolling in quickly but are very slow rolling out in service.   At least the Nova deliveries are faster than the 7000 series rail cars.

[YoungBusLover]

1 hour ago, artthouwill said:

The Novas are rolling in quickly but are very slow rolling out in service.   At least the Nova deliveries are faster than the 7000 series rail cars.

I hypothesize that may be due to installment of the new fareboxes across the remaining two garages in the system 74th/103rd. A lot of them have plates among other miscellaneous things done on them now. SS has about 55-60 awaiting various tasks as they prep them for service.   

[YoungBusLover]

Just got a headcount of #8350s down at SS and the total is up to 72 with the highest delivered so far being #8904. #8765 is the lowest still remaining at SS. #8893 is also at SS. I'll see if anymore deliveries will occur today and tomorrow.

[YoungBusLover]

#8871 - 72 are at SS.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

# 8660 is potentially retired after this bus went up in flames just after 3:00 PM this afternoon on the 66. The engine caught on fire on this cold day. If 8594 is being repaired then 8660 will be first to be retired.

Video of the firemen putting out the flames: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7R-5zOV-F1A

This happened on 8144, 8340, and now 8660. Something seems to be up with the Novas.

[jtrussel]

2 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

# 8660 is potentially retired after this bus went up in flames just after 3:00 PM this afternoon on the 66. The engine caught on fire on this cold day. If 8594 is being repaired then 8660 will be first to be retired.

Video of the firemen putting out the flames: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7R-5zOV-F1A

This happened on 8144, 8340, and now 8660. Something seems to be up with the Novas.

If it is retired l, it might still be under warranty. CTA might get another nova out of this, unless this fire is determined to be caused by lack of maintenance 

[Bus1883]

2 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

# 8660 is potentially retired after this bus went up in flames just after 3:00 PM this afternoon on the 66. The engine caught on fire on this cold day. If 8594 is being repaired then 8660 will be first to be retired.

Video of the firemen putting out the flames: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7R-5zOV-F1A

This happened on 8144, 8340, and now 8660. Something seems to be up with the Novas.

Every generation of novas we get have caught fire something isn’t adding up. Cold temperatures make it worse as fire spreads faster. 
 

6400s: #6503 in 2003, #6813 in 2015 and #6860 in 2021.

7900s: #8144 in 2022 and #8194 in 2016

8325: #8340 last year

8350s: #8660 just now

thanks for the heads up.

[Bus1883]

3 minutes ago, jtrussel said:

If it is retired l, it might still be under warranty. CTA might get another nova out of this, unless this fire is determined to be caused by lack of maintenance 

Buses are normally equipped with fire suppression systems if theres a fire detected there should be liquid to quickly put it out. This is about the third time a nova has caught fire in the cold

[jtrussel]

7 minutes ago, Bus1883 said:

Buses are normally equipped with fire suppression systems if theres a fire detected there should be liquid to quickly put it out. This is about the third time a nova has caught fire in the cold

Are those system automatic or does it require some sort of input from the operator? There must be some sort of flaw if even with the suppression system if it let's the bus go up in flames

[Shannon tahoeppv]

9 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

# 8660 is potentially retired after this bus went up in flames just after 3:00 PM this afternoon on the 66. The engine caught on fire on this cold day. If 8594 is being repaired then 8660 will be first to be retired.

Video of the firemen putting out the flames: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7R-5zOV-F1A

This happened on 8144, 8340, and now 8660. Something seems to be up with the Novas.

Yea 8660 done with

[artthouwill]

7 hours ago, jtrussel said:

Are those system automatic or does it require some sort of input from the operator? There must be some sort of flaw if even with the suppression system if it let's the bus go up in flames

I guess it depends on the system.   Fogmakrr has a system that requires nothing from the driver.  But since it is a water based system,  i think it's possible that if the water in the system does freeze,  it would make suppression nonexistent.   That could explain the damage done in the winter time, but it doesn't explain why the fire happened in the first place.   I don't know if the rest of the system worked properly where the engine would automatically shut down and the fuel supply automatically shuts off. 

Again,  I don't know what fire suppression system that is used for the Novas.

 

[jtrussel]

56 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

I guess it depends on the system.   Fogmakrr has a system that requires nothing from the driver.  But since it is a water based system,  i think it's possible that if the water in the system does freeze,  it would make suppression nonexistent.   That could explain the damage done in the winter time, but it doesn't explain why the fire happened in the first place.   I don't know if the rest of the system worked properly where the engine would automatically shut down and the fuel supply automatically shuts off. 

Again,  I don't know what fire suppression system that is used for the Novas.

 

Most likely a coolant leak or oil. lack maybe missed or not yet detected preventable maintenance  given the bus is only alittle over 1yr old. 

[Busjack]

13 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

# 8660 is potentially retired after this bus went up in flames just after 3:00 PM this afternoon on the 66. The engine caught on fire on this cold day. If 8594 is being repaired then 8660 will be first to be retired.

Video of the firemen putting out the flames: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7R-5zOV-F1A

 

Looks like the same kind of damage as on Pace 6574.

11 hours ago, jtrussel said:

If it is retired l, it might still be under warranty. CTA might get another nova out of this, unless this fire is determined to be caused by lack of maintenance 

Might get money from Volvo, but not another Nova Bus as the plant is being shut down.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

14 minutes ago, Busjack said:

Looks like the same kind of damage as on Pace 6574.

Crazy that fire actually happened the same day the aftermath damage picture was posted just hours before this fire happened. Talk about a bad week for the CTA, starting with the derailment on the Green Line on Monday morning, followed by Loop Delays on Tuesday, then ending the week with a bus on fire.