cta5658 Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 when i ride a NF hybrid bus, i see a stop sign on the pole. i wonder what would happen if someone pressed the button? here's a pic... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE 834 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 when i ride a NF hybrid bus, i see a stop sign on the pole. i wonder what would happen if someone pressed the button? here's a pic... I believe that is the equivalent to the cord to request a stop.NABI's on PACE buses are set up that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE NORTHWEST Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 when i ride a NF hybrid bus, i see a stop sign on the pole. i wonder what would happen if someone pressed the button? here's a pic... Pushing the button will do the same thing as pulling the cord on a bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railwaymodeler Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 It is fairly common for a standee passenger to grab that button by mistake. All it does is request a stop. Of course, if the passenger grabs it by mistake, the driver still stops, which results in a slight delay. Other problem is, that if a passenger grabs it by mistake, and tells the driver it was hit by accident, the stop request bell will not ring again till the doors are opened. So let's say I hit the button by accident, if someone wants off a block or so later, it doesn't do anything if they pull the cord again. Not sure why they are placed where they are. One would think, as Pace's NABIs have been around since the late '90s, that in all this time, they would have found a better place for that button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Not sure why they are placed where they are. One would think, as Pace's NABIs have been around since the late '90s, that in all this time, they would have found a better place for that button. In the high floor buses, the button was over the door next to the green light. Obviously, most can't reach there from the low floor, while on a high floor, one could reach it before stepping down into the well. Of course, why they need a button near the door is beyond me. Even a person in a wheelchair position has a cord. (That is required by the ADA regulations.) However, maybe they were thinking that CTA (or some TA with a crush of passengers) would pack the bus to the gills and a standee can't get to the cord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railwaymodeler Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Even if the bus was that packed, usually standees will ask someone seated next a cord, to pull it for them. Works pretty well. I still believe that button is fairly useless, except for causing the occasional false stop request. To be honest, I have almost hit it by accident a few times myself. Almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 when i ride a NF hybrid bus, i see a stop sign on the pole. i wonder what would happen if someone pressed the button? here's a pic... I believe these are on all current stock... not 100% sure, but I think the NOVA LFS and Optimas have them. I know the New Flyer D40LF and DE40LF have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I actually think it is a great feature. I don't have to reach over someone, or someone doesn't have to lean on me to reach the pull cord if they are standing and I am sitting. I am also sure shorter riders appreciate it too. The only bad thing about the stop request signal is that it only rings once. The 9000 series (9000 - 9599) were the last buses that you could ring the bell multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 In the high floor buses, the button was over the door next to the green light. Obviously, most can't reach there from the low floor, while on a high floor, one could reach it before stepping down into the well. Of course, why they need a button near the door is beyond me. Even a person in a wheelchair position has a cord. (That is required by the ADA regulations.) However, maybe they were thinking that CTA (or some TA with a crush of passengers) would pack the bus to the gills and a standee can't get to the cord. Actually the button in question was found on the old MAN Americana 4000 series among the high floors. It was on the NABIs and is also found on the Novas. To answer cta5658's question, it's nothing more than a stop request button as mentioned. On the Americana's, if I remember correctly it was placed on the pole immediately preceding the two right side forward facing seats behind the rear door. It also was pretty redundant on the Americanas since they also had a button above the rear doors like the other high floors. On the 800s, 900s and 1000s it's similarly placed. On the Novas it's on the other pole at the rear door; if you were standing at the rear door you'd hit it with your left hand instead of your right. On the defunct NABIs and the current 4000 series NF artics, there's two of these buttons, one in the front section of the bus on the pole immediately before the umbilical as pictured in the starting post of this thread and one at the rear on that pole that divides the space at the rear exit doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmadisonwi Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 The Novas also have a stop request button above the back door, next to the green light. I don't recall if there is a label nearby indicating its use, or if it's just sitting there nondescript. It doesn't look like anything, just a little silver button. I'm probably the only person in the system that ever uses that button to request a stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwantae Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I believe these are on all current stock... not 100% sure, but I think the NOVA LFS and Optimas have them. I know the New Flyer D40LF and DE40LF have them. 5800s (1995 D40LFs) had them, And Pace Nova Classics 2379s also has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 To correct my post above, the artic 4000s have three of these buttons and not the two I said. There's one on both sides on each pole just before the articulation section of the bus and the one at the rear door that I mentioned. I spotted the third one when I was riding a 4000 on the 12 Roosevelt today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 To correct my post above, the artic 4000s have three of these buttons and not the two I said. There's one on both sides on each pole just before the articulation section of the bus and the one at the rear door that I mentioned. I spotted the third one when I was riding a 4000 on the 12 Roosevelt today. I used to use it on the MAN Americanas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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