7900-series Nova LFS - Updates

Dawnlight · June 22, 2016

Does Route 77 have the highest ridership out of all of the FG routes?

Busjack · June 22, 2016

12 minutes ago, Dawnlight said:

Does Route 77 have the highest ridership out of all of the FG routes?

According to the Ridership Report (Feb 2016) it looks that way, with daily ridership of 21.993. Diversey, Irving Park and Lawrence are about half that, although Lawrence is shorter.

BusHunter · June 22, 2016

11 minutes ago, Dawnlight said:

Does Route 77 have the highest ridership out of all of the FG routes?

Usually they average about 5th or 6th highest. It's the highest at FG. I believe the #9 has the highest bus ridership in the system.

Busjack · June 22, 2016

5 minutes ago, BusHunter said:

Usually they average about 5th or 6th highest. It's the highest at FG. I believe the #9 has the highest bus ridership in the system.

Yes, it does barely beat out 79 (combining 9 and X9).

Dawnlight · June 22, 2016

That could explain why the newer buses are primarily on the 77. Routes 76, 80, 81, and 152 are probably gonna next on the list once more buses get delivered.

BusHunter · June 22, 2016

#8226 is in the 3rd yard up here at the glen. Also new in the 3rd yard are #6558, #6871, #6689, #6695. I took some pics I'll upload later.

peter.pyterek · June 23, 2016

Saw 8227 on the 77 at Lockwood going west

BusHunter · June 23, 2016

Here's a shot of #8226 and other buses in the FG 3rd yard. i'll leave these full size so you can zoom them up.

patman119 · June 23, 2016

On 6/21/2016 at 0:27 PM, garmon757 said:

Obviously that guy doesn't know that they have to go past Ohio to get here........

There are a few tweets like that on Twitter. People often think the bus is lost. LOL.

Busjack · June 23, 2016

28 minutes ago, patman119 said:

There are a few tweets like that on Twitter. People often think the bus is lost. LOL.

There was a similar YouTube about a Pace bus that "looked newly painted" in a truck stop in Flagstaff AZ. After I left a comment that that was the most logical delivery route from the Riverside CA plant to South Holland, the video was deleted. I guess they found out what they wanted.

jajuan · June 23, 2016

These types of situations basically show that folks don't stop to realize that buses are basically never manufactured in the same city or metro area as the TA that they serve and therefore need to be driven the often times several hundred miles between the plant and the TA's home area. The exceptions to that dynamic of course are the rare cases of a manufacturer having a plant in a city with some form of bus transit service and having a contract with that TA.

Busjack · June 23, 2016

23 minutes ago, jajuan said:

These types of situations basically show that folks don't stop to realize that buses are basically never manufactured in the same city or metro area as the TA that they serve and therefore need to be driven the often times several hundred miles between the plant and the TA's home area. The exceptions to that dynamic of course are the rare cases of a manufacturer having a plant in a city with some form of bus transit service and having a contract with that TA.

Somehow, Plattsbirgh NY, St. Cloud Minn., and Anniston Ala.* don't hit me as big metropolises.

*Reference to a post on why a Detroit DOT X-60 was seen near Atlanta.

BusHunter · June 23, 2016

#8205 was on the #56 this morning, so I think the last route that runs 7 days a week out of FG that hasn't had an #8200 is the #90.

jajuan · June 23, 2016

1 hour ago, Busjack said:

Somehow, Plattsbirgh NY, St. Cloud Minn., and Anniston Ala.* don't hit me as big metropolises.

*Reference to a post on why a Detroit DOT X-60 was seen near Atlanta.

Well I was actually thinking more along the lines of the Canadian connection among the manufacturers.

Busjack · June 23, 2016

15 minutes ago, jajuan said:

Well I was actually thinking more along the lines of the Canadian connection among the manufacturers.

Yes, but there's still the Buy America Act, Final assembly has to be done in the U.S.

If you were making a point about TTC or STM, St. Eustache Quebec isn't that close to Toronto (is to Montreal).

jajuan · June 23, 2016

1 minute ago, Busjack said:

Yes, but there's still the Buy America Act, Final assembly has to be done in the U.S.

True, but to again clarify further I wasn't thinking strictly about US transit services in that part of the post.

Busjack · June 23, 2016

Just now, jajuan said:

True, but to again clarify further I wasn't thinking strictly about US transit services in that part of the post.

Amended by me above.

jajuan · June 23, 2016

Can't remember if 8081 was mentioned as being sidelined on the OOS list, but I found an ABC 7 Eyewitness News story from three weeks ago that gives some insight into what happened to it. It was shot at early that morning by some idiot near 85th Street while on an N9 run heading southbound on Ashland to the 95th Red Line station. No one was hurt thank goodness, but the bus came away with a hole at the landing by the door.

Busjack · June 23, 2016

31 minutes ago, jajuan said:

Can't remember if 8081 was mentioned as being sidelined on the OOS list, but I found an ABC 7 Eyewitness News story from three weeks ago that gives some insight into what happened to it. It was shot at early that morning by some idiot near 85th Street while on an N9 run heading southbound on Ashland to the 95th Red Line station. No one was hurt thank goodness, but the bus came away with a hole at the landing by the door.

Not sure I remember that one, but a bicyclist getting away seems kind of tough.

jajuan · June 23, 2016

45 minutes ago, Busjack said:

Not sure I remember that one, but a bicyclist getting away seems kind of tough.

I agree. It should be almost as tough as for those who try to get away on foot in similar events (firing guns at people or vehicles with people inside) and are reported as being caught by police somewhere nearby a short time later.

BusHunter · June 23, 2016

1 hour ago, jajuan said:

Can't remember if 8081 was mentioned as being sidelined on the OOS list, but I found an ABC 7 Eyewitness News story from three weeks ago that gives some insight into what happened to it. It was shot at early that morning by some idiot near 85th Street while on an N9 run heading southbound on Ashland to the 95th Red Line station. No one was hurt thank goodness, but the bus came away with a hole at the landing by the door.

That's nuts, that sounds like some kid screwing around. At least the shield is supposed to be bulletproof, can't say that for the riders though.

jajuan · June 23, 2016

Just now, BusHunter said:

That's nuts, that sounds like some kid screwing around. At least the shield is supposed to be bulletproof, can't say that for the riders though.

And from what I gathered from the story, fortunately no one was reported shot or otherwise injured from this unknown clown shooting at the bus.

BusHunter · June 23, 2016

Well #8226 is on the #77, where else would it be? #8227 must be a ghost bus, I haven't seen zip in two days from it on the tracker. Time to suit up and catch some ghosts!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byiGKBzIu-8

We got one!! (maybe)

BusHunter · June 23, 2016

Some ghost buses have spoofed us at SS and FG. Imagine my surprise when I saw #8224 just now on #77. Another ghost bus running with #8220 a harlem pullin. Yes #8227 is out here too It's a ghost bus too.

BusHunter · June 24, 2016

Ok here's a bunch of pictures of #8224, #8226 and #8227. Today for the first time, there seemed about 80 percent #8200's on the #77. According to what I figured looking at mathstracker and what I observed, I come up 22 #8200's and 6 #6400's on the #77 this afternoon. These #6400's are becoming an endangered species at least on the #77, I think soon like within a week we may not be seeing any #6400's on the #77. The buses they have at SS should easily cover what's left on #77. There's something wrong/defect with #8226 maybe our eagle eyed members can tell us what it is.

#8224: