1000-series D40LF - Updates & Retirements

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

On 9/18/2024 at 2:15 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Here is the buses that aren’t confirmed on LTH or status is not known that have been out of service since August 31st.

if you have any info on those specific fleet numbers let me know I’ll update my list.

1637 (OOS since July, at SS, need to know if it’s awaiting repairs or is retired)

1667 (OOS since May, was spotted at SS in June with 1824, found 1824 is now on LTH in the boneyard)

1672 (OOS since July, supposedly retired as it’s on south fence with minor accident damage)

1675 (this is in the boneyard on LTH right?)

1687 (OOS Since late June, nearly 3 months now)

1700 (OOS since the end of April, Forest Glen unit, nearly 5 months OOS, any sighting of 1700?)

1709 (at SS, is this awaiting repairs or retired?)

1713 (on South fence, on LTH right?)

1723 (LTH?)

1729 (at SS, is this awaiting repairs or retired?)

1751 (is this at SS, and is this waiting for repairs or retired?)

1757 (spotted in the boneyard with no LTH stickers on it)

 1774 (not tracking since end of June)

1784 (at SS, status is unknown)

1791 (at SS since May)

1808 (out of service since end of July)

1834 (at SS Since April, not sure on status)

1849  and 1857 (are these still at SS?)

1866 (OOS since mid August)

1889 (at SS, status unknown)

1901 (spotted at boneyard in mid August. Is this on LTH now?)

1903 (OOS since early August, whereabouts unknown.)

1905 and 1907 (these are at SS, status unknown)

1910 (is this LTH?)

1918 (OOS since August 1st)

1927 (in same area as 1791)

1941 (at SS since late August)

1951 (OOS since mid June, once spotted at SS)

1955 (same as 1927 and 1791)

1976, 1977, 1991, 1992 (all at SS supposedly awaiting repair?)

1986, 1987 (possibly SS? Awaiting repairs? I saw 1987 at the end of July at SS)

1994 (OOS since late February, spotted at SS since late March)

1995 (OOS since mid February to June 1st, went OOS again mid July)

2014 (OOS since late August)

If any of you know where these are or their status, feel free to let me know!

1751 is at SS not far from 1955. 1751’s farebox appears to have been removed.

1729 and 1784 sit next to each other at SS

1941 has been placed back in service.

I believe I saw 1903 in the boneyard today but it’s not far from 1757 just a few buses down.

[YoungBusLover]

After doing a lot of heavy digging over the past month I've officially received confirmation on the retirement process of the following rolling stock slated for LTH/300 retirement status. #1010/#1011 being the only exceptions as they are WBs 1 & 2. Everything else listed below has been towed to SS or in the process of being towed and placed primarily in the boneyard awaiting there turn to be hauled off for scrap in the next several years.  

#1010, #1011, #1012, #1017, #1037 (Total: 5)

#1125, #1150, #1189 (Total: 1)

#1228 (Total: 1)

#1305, #1331, #1342, #1363, #1368 (Total: 5)

#1447 (Total: 1)

#1517, #1596 (Total: 2)

#1614, #1626, #1634, #1635, #1637, #1639, #1640,#1642, #1644, #1645, #1646, #1647, #1648 #1649, #1650, #1651, #1652, #1654, #1656, #1658, #1659, #1661, #1662, #1664, #1665, #1667, #1668, #1669, #1670, #1671, #1672, #1674, #1675, #1679, #1680, #1681, #1682, #1684, #1685, #1686, #1687, #1689, #1690, #1692, #1693, #1694, #1695, #1696 #1697 #1698 (Total: 50)

#1700, #1702, #1703, #1704, #1705, #1706 #1707, #1708, #1709, #1710, #1711, #1712,  #1713, #1717, #1723, #1728, #1729, #1730, #1731, #1732, #1733, #1737, #1738, #1739, #1740, #1741, #1742,  #1745, #1746, #1747, #1751, #1753, #1754, #1756, #1757, #1759, #1763, #1765, #1770, #1771, #1772 , #1773, #1774, #1775, #1778, #1779, #1781, #1782, #1784, #1785, #1786, #1790, #1791, #1792, #1794, #1799 (Total: 56)

#1800, #1805, #1808, #1810, #1811, #1812, #1813, #1814, #1815, #1816, #1817, #1819, #1820, #1821, #1823, #1824, #1825, #1827, #1828, #1829, #1831, #1833, #1834, #1836, #1837, #1840, #1841, #1842, #1844, #1845, #1847, #1848, #1849, #1850, #1852, #1856, #1857, #1858, #1859, #1861, #1864, #1866, #1868, #1869, #1870, #1876, #1882, #1883, #1885, #1886, #1887, #1888, #1889, #1890, #1892, #1894, #1899, (Total: 57)

#1901, #1903, #1905, #1907, #1908, #1910, #1916, #1918, #1921, #1922, #1924, #1925, #1926, #1927, #1928, #1930, #1931, #1933, #1934, #1935, #1936, #1937, #1940, #1943, #1944, #1945, #1946, #1947, #1948, #1949, #1951, #1952, #1953, #1955, #1958, #1959, #1960, #1961, #1963, #1965, #1969, #1971, #1972, #1973, #1974, #1976, #1977, #1978, #1981, #1983, #1984, #1985, #1986, #1987, #1988, #1989, #1990, #1991, #1992, #1993, #1994, #1995, #1996, #1997, #1998, #1999 (Total: 66)

#2003, #2004, #2005, 2008, #2013, #2014, #2015, #2016, #2017, #2018, #2022, #2023, #2026, #2027, #2028, #2029 (Total: 16)

(Total: 260) Placed on LTH/300

(Total: 770) Left in active revenue service

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

21 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

After doing a lot of heavy digging over the past month I've officially received confirmation on the retirement process of the following rolling stock slated for LTH/300 retirement status. #1010/#1011 being the only exceptions as they are WBs 1 & 2. Everything else listed below has been towed to SS or in the process of being towed and placed primarily in the boneyard awaiting there turn to be hauled off for scrap in the next several years.  

#1010, #1011, #1012, #1017, #1037 (Total: 5)

#1125, #1150, #1189 (Total: 1)

#1228 (Total: 1)

#1305, #1331, #1342, #1363, #1368 (Total: 5)

#1447 (Total: 1)

#1517, #1596 (Total: 2)

#1614, #1626, #1634, #1635, #1637, #1639, #1640,#1642, #1644, #1645, #1646, #1647, #1648 #1649, #1650, #1651, #1652, #1654, #1656, #1658, #1659, #1661, #1662, #1664, #1665, #1667, #1668, #1669, #1670, #1671, #1672, #1674, #1675, #1679, #1680, #1681, #1682, #1684, #1685, #1686, #1687, #1689, #1690, #1692, #1693, #1694, #1695, #1696 #1697 #1698 (Total: 50)

#1700, #1702, #1703, #1704, #1705, #1706 #1707, #1708, #1709, #1710, #1711, #1712,  #1713, #1717, #1723, #1728, #1729, #1730, #1731, #1732, #1733, #1737, #1738, #1739, #1740, #1741, #1742,  #1745, #1746, #1747, #1751, #1753, #1754, #1756, #1757, #1759, #1763, #1765, #1770, #1771, #1772 , #1773, #1774, #1775, #1778, #1779, #1781, #1782, #1784, #1785, #1786, #1790, #1791, #1792, #1794, #1799 (Total: 56)

#1800, #1805, #1808, #1810, #1811, #1812, #1813, #1814, #1815, #1816, #1817, #1819, #1820, #1821, #1823, #1824, #1825, #1827, #1828, #1829, #1831, #1833, #1834, #1836, #1837, #1840, #1841, #1842, #1844, #1845, #1847, #1848, #1849, #1850, #1852, #1854, #1856, #1857, #1858, #1859, #1861, #1864, #1866, #1868, #1869, #1870, #1876, #1882, #1883, #1885, #1886, #1887, #1888, #1889, #1890, #1892, #1894, #1899, (Total: 58)

#1901, #1903, #1905, #1907, #1908, #1910, #1916, #1918, #1921, #1922, #1924, #1925, #1926, #1927, #1928, #1930, #1931, #1933, #1934, #1935, #1936, #1937, #1940, #1943, #1944, #1945, #1946, #1947, #1948, #1949, #1951, #1952, #1953, #1955, #1958, #1959, #1960, #1961, #1963, #1965, #1969, #1971, #1972, #1973, #1974, #1976, #1977, #1978, #1981, #1983, #1984, #1985, #1986, #1987, #1988, #1989, #1990, #1991, #1992, #1993, #1994, #1995, #1996, #1997, #1998, #1999 (Total: 66)

#2003, #2004, #2005, 2008, #2013, #2014, #2015, #2016, #2017, #2018, #2022, #2023, #2026, #2027, #2028, #2029 (Total: 16)

(Total: 261) Placed on LTH/300

(Total: 769) Left in active revenue service

You missed 1731 and 1854 both of which are in the boneyard and have junk titles on them

also 1368 has a junk title too

[Busjack]

11 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

I've officially received confirmation on the retirement process of the following rolling stock

Considering that there's something like 70 to 90 in NP's range, its not surprising that its fleet looks like old 103rd's and 74th's.

[YoungBusLover]

46 minutes ago, Busjack said:

Considering that there's something like 70 to 90 in NP's range, its not surprising that its fleet looks like old 103rd's and 74th's.

Indeed, At some point though the new arrivals of #8700s along with overhauled #4300s should lower the average fleet age a bit. Hopefully the more at risk #1630 - #2029 Flyers can be monitored better as time progress over the next several months. A majority of the 260 retired are related to rusting. 

[Busjack]

13 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said:

Indeed, At some point though the new arrivals of #8700s along with overhauled #4300s should lower the average fleet age a bit. Hopefully the more at risk #1630 - #2029 Flyers can be monitored better as time progress over the next several months. A majority of the 260 retired are related to rusting. 

In that the approximately 170 Novas to come are supposed to complete the retirement of approx. 550 NFs, the rust buckets shouldn't be around much longer. All that should be left is 450 of 5he under 1630 range..

[jajuan]

On 10/13/2024 at 11:13 PM, YoungBusLover said:

After doing a lot of heavy digging over the past month I've officially received confirmation on the retirement process of the following rolling stock slated for LTH/300 retirement status. #1010/#1011 being the only exceptions as they are WBs 1 & 2. Everything else listed below has been towed to SS or in the process of being towed and placed primarily in the boneyard awaiting there turn to be hauled off for scrap in the next several years.  

#1010, #1011, #1012, #1017, #1037 (Total: 5)

#1125, #1150, #1189 (Total: 1)

#1228 (Total: 1)

#1305, #1331, #1342, #1363, #1368 (Total: 5)

#1447 (Total: 1)

#1517, #1596 (Total: 2)

#1614, #1626, #1634, #1635, #1637, #1639, #1640,#1642, #1644, #1645, #1646, #1647, #1648 #1649, #1650, #1651, #1652, #1654, #1656, #1658, #1659, #1661, #1662, #1664, #1665, #1667, #1668, #1669, #1670, #1671, #1672, #1674, #1675, #1679, #1680, #1681, #1682, #1684, #1685, #1686, #1687, #1689, #1690, #1692, #1693, #1694, #1695, #1696 #1697 #1698 (Total: 50)

#1700, #1702, #1703, #1704, #1705, #1706 #1707, #1708, #1709, #1710, #1711, #1712,  #1713, #1717, #1723, #1728, #1729, #1730, #1731, #1732, #1733, #1737, #1738, #1739, #1740, #1741, #1742,  #1745, #1746, #1747, #1751, #1753, #1754, #1756, #1757, #1759, #1763, #1765, #1770, #1771, #1772 , #1773, #1774, #1775, #1778, #1779, #1781, #1782, #1784, #1785, #1786, #1790, #1791, #1792, #1794, #1799 (Total: 56)

#1800, #1805, #1808, #1810, #1811, #1812, #1813, #1814, #1815, #1816, #1817, #1819, #1820, #1821, #1823, #1824, #1825, #1827, #1828, #1829, #1831, #1833, #1834, #1836, #1837, #1840, #1841, #1842, #1844, #1845, #1847, #1848, #1849, #1850, #1852, #1856, #1857, #1858, #1859, #1861, #1864, #1866, #1868, #1869, #1870, #1876, #1882, #1883, #1885, #1886, #1887, #1888, #1889, #1890, #1892, #1894, #1899, (Total: 57)

#1901, #1903, #1905, #1907, #1908, #1910, #1916, #1918, #1921, #1922, #1924, #1925, #1926, #1927, #1928, #1930, #1931, #1933, #1934, #1935, #1936, #1937, #1940, #1943, #1944, #1945, #1946, #1947, #1948, #1949, #1951, #1952, #1953, #1955, #1958, #1959, #1960, #1961, #1963, #1965, #1969, #1971, #1972, #1973, #1974, #1976, #1977, #1978, #1981, #1983, #1984, #1985, #1986, #1987, #1988, #1989, #1990, #1991, #1992, #1993, #1994, #1995, #1996, #1997, #1998, #1999 (Total: 66)

#2003, #2004, #2005, 2008, #2013, #2014, #2015, #2016, #2017, #2018, #2022, #2023, #2026, #2027, #2028, #2029 (Total: 16)

(Total: 260) Placed on LTH/300

(Total: 770) Left in active revenue service

A number of these I thought were already retired ages ago because even with accounting for seasonal garage moves and moves done due to displacement by incoming 8350s, I hadn't seen them for at least a couple of years. Also looking at how half the 16xx buses are FG buses from after the big NF for Nova swap between K and FG and the other half were from the remaining K 16xx's, it's clearer why both still got further additional NFs from other garages following that swap. The number ranges from C also helps explain why it got such a huge majority of the 8350s that were coming in at the time K finally started getting 8350s.