Brown line Flyover breaking ground

[andrethebusman]

On 3/3/2022 at 3:45 PM, artthouwill said:

From what I remember,  Dan Ryan service operated between 95th and 35th.  I believe people were encouraged to walk and transfer to the SSM to finish the trip into the Loop.  I think there might've been shuttle service to Cermak but not downtown.   They would rectify the problem and service eventually returned to normal.   

At least CTA kept the Clark Junction crossover in the event trains need to use it while this program gets fixed.  This won't be the crack found over the IC tracks on the Jackson Park branch which caused the bridge tand the Jackson Park station to never be used again.  Both were eventually demolished 

The next question will be how long it takes CTA to address its structural and falling concrete issues on the Purple Line?

Ryan ran 35 to 95. Several trains of 2000s and 2200s were moved to Englewood/Howard service. Harvard was busier than it had been since at least the 1950s.

[artthouwill]

46 minutes ago, andrethebusman said:

Ryan ran 35 to 95. Several trains of 2000s and 2200s were moved to Englewood/Howard service. Harvard was busier than it had been since at least the 1950s.

There was a station at Harvard.  Though the walking distance between the stations was short, the climb up to the Harvard platform was not.  In fact all of the Englewood branch stations were hikes with Harvard and Wentworth being the worst.  To be sure. 35th is no picnic either, but it's better than Indiana which will test your conditioning.   While Harvard was a shorter walking distance,  it only had A trains while Tech -35th had the benefit of AB srrvice.  The original Cermak station on the SSM (which was a B station just like the Chinatown station) was closed in 1973.

[cta5658]

38 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

There was a station at Harvard.  Though the walking distance between the stations was short, the climb up to the Harvard platform was not.  In fact all of the Englewood branch stations were hikes with Harvard and Wentworth being the worst.  To be sure. 35th is no picnic either, but it's better than Indiana which will test your conditioning.   While Harvard was a shorter walking distance,  it only had A trains while Tech -35th had the benefit of AB srrvice.  The original Cermak station on the SSM (which was a B station just like the Chinatown station) was closed in 1973.

Actually, the original Cermak on the SSM closed in 1977 and was demolished in 1978 until the new station (Cermak-McCormick Place) was built in 2015.

[artthouwill]

24 minutes ago, cta5658 said:

Actually, the original Cermak on the SSM closed in 1977 and was demolished in 1978 until the new station (Cermak-McCormick Place) was built in 2015.

Thanks.   That makes sense.   I don't remember the exact timeline, but Harrison was changed from an AB station to a B station and North/Clybourn changed from a B station to an A sration..  I know when the Jackson Park branch was truncated to 61st that Garfield was changed from a B station to an AB station and remained that way until the Howard and Dan Ryan realugnment.

[strictures]

9 hours ago, artthouwill said:

There was a station at Harvard.  Though the walking distance between the stations was short, the climb up to the Harvard platform was not.  In fact all of the Englewood branch stations were hikes with Harvard and Wentworth being the worst.  To be sure. 35th is no picnic either, but it's better than Indiana which will test your conditioning.   While Harvard was a shorter walking distance,  it only had A trains while Tech -35th had the benefit of AB srrvice.  The original Cermak station on the SSM (which was a B station just like the Chinatown station) was closed in 1973.

There wasn't any reason for Indiana to be this high, after the rebuild into the Green Line.  The freight RR was totally abandoned by then & there was also sufficient empty land there to have gotten rid of the 90 degree S-turn & made it into a easier 45 degree S-turn with a single island platform there.  The CTA has a lack of imagination when it comes to rebuilding the L.  At least the new Red Line is going to be several feet higher on the North Side when it's finished, so no more trucks hitting the 12' high bridges there.

18th St., Cicero/Lake & Paulina are also real climbs, because they're so close to railroads they have to cross.