More Bus Moves

[ChicagoNova]

1529 maybe on loan to 74th because saw on #62 this morning and saw #4332 is on #136 this morning.

4332 is now on #147.

[ChicagoNova]

4330 and 4331 on 146.

[ChicagoNova]

4328 on #22.

[garmon757]

#1388 #1820 and #1905 are on #9

#1253 is on #49.

#1272 is on #59.

#1772 is on #62H

[garmon757]

Hmmm, #4177 and #4314 on #28.... Interesting.....

[jajuan]

Hmmm, #4177 and #4314 on #28.... Interesting.....

Well 103rd has enough artics now to make that happen from time to time on the 28 for those rush hour "express" runs*.

*I put the quotes because of the fact CTA no longer calls those rush hour downtown runs Stony Island Express.

[jajuan]

By the way, it looks like 26 isn't all artic. At least two 40 foot NFs are queued for service in the next 20 to 30 minutes. So it looks like buses on 26 will be deployed similar to how it operated when 103rd had at least half of the 4300s during Red Line South reconstruction.

22 does have artics in service during the rush period. At least 5 or 6 of them are either in service on the route right now or queued to enter northbound service at Harrison off an deadhead in to downtown to get into position for service.

[garmon757]

Well 103rd has enough artics now to make that happen from time to time on the 28 for those rush hour "express" runs*.

*I put the quotes because of the fact CTA no longer calls those rush hour downtown runs Stony Island Express.

True despite they weren't going downtown. Just probably school trips to 47th/Lake Park.

[garmon757]

By the way, it looks like 26 isn't all artic. At least two 40 foot NFs are queued for service in the next 20 to 30 minutes. So it looks like buses on 26 will be deployed similar to how it operated when 103rd had at least half of the 4300s during Red Line South reconstruction.

It's fair enough to say that any 103rd routes aren't going to be all artics including #6 and #14.

[jajuan]

It's fair enough to say that any 103rd routes aren't going to be all artics including #6 and #14.

Actually J14 is all artics at the present moment and all #6 buses except one, NF #1835, are artics. It's probably safer to say the rush hour only express runs 26 and 28 will be a mix of artics and 40 footers regularly while 6 and J14 operate primarily as close to all artic as possible with a stray 40 footer or two.

[ajm522]

6525 is on #24 right now and 4358 is on #3. I hope this isn't the start of another possible tracker glitch).

[jajuan]

I see part of how NP is getting artics on the 22 in PM rush instead of starting in very early evening as PM rush winds down. As the 4 PM hour starts they have artics enter service at Harrison off an apparent deadhead or maybe off an interline, and a number of the 40 NFs that were on the 22 during midday are on an interline with the 136 to make room for those artics. As those 40 footers reach downtown starting around 4:15 to 4:30 PM, they end their service on the 22 after the Van Buren stop on Clark and head over to Franklin to start service as a northbound 136. From the looks of it 135 kept its artics and only 136 gave up some artic usage in PM rush. 136 does still use artics on its first few trips during approximately its first hour of service from what I observed. After that it looks like most of the 136 trips are operated with 40 foot buses from earlier service on the 22.

[BusHunter]

#6525 is on the #24. What is 77th doing with an old nova that's against the rules. Lol!! (Thinking of demolition man) "They are fined 10 credits due to the no old nova bus statute at 77th!!"

[pete6125]

I am riding 4322 on 151 to Devon and Clark.

[BusHunter]

#1381 is sitting in front of me on the #2 and I saw that on the #152 yesterday.

[jajuan]

I am riding 4322 on 151 to Devon and Clark.

4322 already reported being at NP as of the new fall pick.

[jajuan]

Correction to an earlier post, #22 does have 40 foot buses interlined with the 135 as well, as artics take over #22 service during the PM rush. They happen to be interlined on 135 much later, during the 135's final hour of service. And apparently 4326 is in fact the lone child out of the former Kedzie hybrid 4300s. It's serving the 143 this evening. All the other Kedzie 4300s as sighted and reported are up at NP.

[BusHunter]

Even #4327?

[jajuan]

Even #4327?

Wait. Come to think of it 4327 has been missing in action still so far. I don't think anyone mentioned seeing that one either on a Kedzie route or NP route.

[wordguy]

Wait. Come to think of it 4327 has been missing in action still so far. I don't think anyone mentioned seeing that one either on a Kedzie route or NP route.

As of this evening, it's still keeping 4326 company at Kedzie. It did appear on BusTracker during the PM rush filling a K run on one of the lakefront routes.

[garmon757]

#1266 is on #47

#1353 #1679 and #1694 are on #67

#1820 and #1905 remains on #9 while having #1253 and #1272 on that route.

If anybody can check out #49 to see if any NP buses have 74th run numbers, that would be awesome.

[MTRSP1900-CTA3200]

A few nights ago I saw a line of rotating yellow beacon lights along the tracks of the Blue Line near Forest Park while heading out on the Eisenhower. I'm assuming they were the single/wrong way track beacon lights mentioned before (I think in the Your New Blue thread). Either way, they were a cool sight. I also had a dream last night where the Blue Line trains were single tracking around Oak Park and I was about to post about that on this forum (in the dream, but I guess in real life now too).

Also I've been noticing that there are more Blue Line trains getting stopped on the bridge over the Eisenhower while waiting for signal clearance. Does anyone know if this is because they're using the crossover before the station now? When I was a kid, the trains would always enter Forest Park on the north platform, then use a loop to turn around and board on the south platform. I haven't been to the actual station recently to see if this practice is still used 100% of the time.

[garmon757]

A few nights ago I saw a line of rotating yellow beacon lights along the tracks of the Blue Line near Forest Park while heading out on the Eisenhower. I'm assuming they were the single/wrong way track beacon lights mentioned before (I think in the Your New Blue thread). Either way, they were a cool sight. I also had a dream last night where the Blue Line trains were single tracking around Oak Park and I was about to post about that on this forum (in the dream, but I guess in real life now too).

Also I've been noticing that there are more Blue Line trains getting stopped on the bridge over the Eisenhower while waiting for signal clearance. Does anyone know if this is because they're using the crossover before the station now? When I was a kid, the trains would always enter Forest Park on the north platform, then use a loop to turn around and board on the south platform. I haven't been to the actual station recently to see if this practice is still used 100% of the time.

That's correct. It's weird though because when I began taking the Blue Line from Forest Park in 2005 they didn't use the crossover at all. They didn't start using it consistently until around 2008-09 after the new signals were installed between Division/Milwaukee and Forest Park. Now, they use it for a while then stop using it for a while and so on like a pattern. Blue Line trains be backed up because they take their sweet a$$ time to operate the other trains out the station and to the yard. Yeah that really annoys the crap out of me especially late nights because it put me at risk of missing my bus (#317) because it's a 45-60 wait for another one after 8:46pm on weekdays, 6:25pm on Saturdays, and all day on Sundays.

[artthouwill]

That's correct. It's weird though because when I began taking the Blue Line from Forest Park in 2005 they didn't use the crossover at all. They didn't start using it consistently until around 2008-09 after the new signals were installed between Division/Milwaukee and Forest Park. Now, they use it for a while then stop using it for a while and so on like a pattern. Blue Line trains be backed up because they take their sweet a$$ time to operate the other trains out the station and to the yard. Yeah that really annoys the crap out of me especially late nights because it put me at risk of missing my bus (#317) because it's a 45-60 wait for another one after 8:46pm on weekdays, 6:25pm on Saturdays, and all day on Sundays.

Recent history shows that they are not using the crossover. At one time they did because of the frequency of trains caused backups the old way. However, using the crossover didn't really alleviate that. When the Blue Line went to alternating trains ending at UIC-Halsted, not using the crossover made more sense. The operator, after unloading at Forest Park, had to walk the entire length of the train to check for passengers still on the train. Once they were sure that their train was empty, they were able to pull the train trhough the turnaround since their run didn't really end until they pulled into the EB berthing station. However most operators would not pull their train through unless the EB track was clear, or unless the station supervisor made them do it to allow another train to enter. Thus now the backups at Forest Park tend to be that the supervisor is lax in making the operators move their train or yard personnel is slow to pull trains into the yard. REally there should be no excuse for backups at Forest Park except for single tracking.

[garmon757]

Recent history shows that they are not using the crossover. At one time they did because of the frequency of trains caused backups the old way. However, using the crossover didn't really alleviate that. When the Blue Line went to alternating trains ending at UIC-Halsted, not using the crossover made more sense. The operator, after unloading at Forest Park, had to walk the entire length of the train to check for passengers still on the train. Once they were sure that their train was empty, they were able to pull the train trhough the turnaround since their run didn't really end until they pulled into the EB berthing station. However most operators would not pull their train through unless the EB track was clear, or unless the station supervisor made them do it to allow another train to enter. Thus now the backups at Forest Park tend to be that the supervisor is lax in making the operators move their train or yard personnel is slow to pull trains into the yard. REally there should be no excuse for backups at Forest Park except for single tracking.

They're still using the crossover no matter some ending at UIC-Halsted. That's causing issues all over Forest Park station. Even without the crossover being active, they're still issues especially trains being delayed. Also, it's extremely inexcusable for Blue Line trains being delayed during late nights! Thanks for the information about it!