North Park New Flyers

[sw4400]

Check "New Flyer D40LF Thread" for lists...

[jacksone44]

Using the Bus Tracker program, I'm going to attempt to get as close to 100% the numbers, New Flyer D40LF-wise, that North Park has from smallest to largest. Here goes:

#1381, #1391, #1402, #1406, #1405, #1407, #1409, #1414, #1416, #1427, #1553, #1569, #1571, #1575, #1605, #1607, #1617, #1623, #1627, #1629, #1751, #1773, #1795, #1859, #1877, #1885, #1889, #1891, #1901, #1905, #1909, #1911, #1915, #1919, #1923, #1936, #1940, #1944, #1952, #1962, #1964, #1976, #1978,

Updated: 4-4-09

Im almost positive (not 100%) they have the following:

1365-1429, 1550-1579 odds, 1600-1629 odds, 1751-1761, 1762-1798 odds (in the process of receiving the evens from 03), 1850-1925 odds, 1930-1980 evens (in the process of receiving the rest of the evens from 03) and I think thats about it.

As for 4000's they have 4025-4095 odds, and 4096- on all.

[Busjack]

Of course, some 1600s are showing up on BusTracker at 74th, but don't know if that is evens only.

[Busjack]

1601 showed up on 47, so it must be both.

Also, 1603 on 75.

[sw4400]

Check my updates... I just seen some LOW numbers on #151 today.

[BusExpert32]

Low numbered New Flyers on the #151 are from Kedzie Garage.

[jajuan]

Right. NFs numbered 1161-1233, and it was forgotten to be mentioned 1622, 1624, 1626, 1628 and 1630-1724, seen on any day on 151 are Kedzie operated.

[jajuan]

Using the Bus Tracker program*, I'm going to attempt to get as close to 100% the numbers, New Flyer D40LF-wise, that North Park has from smallest to largest. Here goes:

#1181, #1198, #1232, #1370, #1371, #1373, #1374, #1376, #1378, #1379, #1381, #1383, #1385, #1386, #1390, #1391, #1392, #1393, #1394, #1396, #1401, #1402, #1405, #1406, #1407, #1409, #1414, #1416, #1423, #1426, #1427, #1428, #1429, #1551, #1553, #1555, #1557, #1569, #1571, #1575, #1605, #1607, #1613, #1615, #1617, #1619, #1621, #1623, #1627, #1629, #1676, #1720, #1751, #1752, #1753, #1758, #1761, #1763, #1764, #1765, #1767, #1768, #1772, #1773, #1774, #1775, #1776, #1779, #1781, #1785, #1793, #1795, #1859, #1865, #1877, #1861, #1863, #1885, #1889, #1891, #1893, #1895, #1899, #1901, #1903, #1905, #1909, #1911, #1915, #1917, #1919, #1923, #1925, #1936, #1940, #1944, #1950, #1952, #1954, #1962, #1964, #1968, #1970, #1976, #1978, #1980,

Updated: 4-5-09

*Some North Park Routes are still not on Bus Tracker(X98,135,136,144,155,200,201,205,206)

Bold Text Indicates Buses from another Garage on assigned shared routes

The bold in your update are Kedzie buses not North Park. 1676 and 1720 also belong to Kedzie. See my other post immediately before this one.

[jacksone44]

Right. NFs numbered 1161-1233, an it was forgotten to be mentioned 1622, 1624, 1626, 1628 and 1630-1724, seen on any day on 151 are Kedzie operated.

Ive seen a good number of NF 4000's lately on the 151 as well, so 4000-4022 and 4024-4048 evens as well could end up on the 151.

[sw4400]

Why would #4104 be on Rt. #97? It seems like too small of a route to have articulated buses(ridership-wise and maybe road-wise), isn't it?

[MetroShadow]

Why would #4104 be on Rt. #97? It seems like too small of a route to have articulated buses, isn't it?

I've seen 7100's and 7500's pull into Howard with at least 60% load in past experiences. It is possible to achieve such a load on that route, let alone an artic.

[Tamir4317]

Wow, so much swapping going on lately.

Here's my .02. After 2029 is delivered, then the Allison NF's should be spread among 4 garages. 1930-1979 should be split between North Park/77th, and 1980-2029 should be Chicago/103rd. I feel that 103rd should have some new equipment too. I mean come on, sending the oldest of the NF fleet to the southside? Not cool at all. And I say this also because I love the way the new deliveries sound and move. Don't they have that Americana feel to them? If 103rd were to get some of those buses back, then half of 1000-10?? should go to Forest Glen or Archer in exchange for some Novas or Flxible 95's.

I dunno, I just want some of those buses back damit! It's unfair that people who ride the 65/66/72/74, etc... are able to look on the tracker and find buses like #1982 & 1990 everyday. Arrggghh!

Okay, rant over.

[Tamir4317]

Oh yeah, and if Chicago is short on buses by giving us 25 of the new NF's, then Chicago could have some of the the next order (4150-4207) of articulated hybrids.

[sw4400]

Wow, so much swapping going on lately.

Here's my .02. After 2029 is delivered, then the Allison NF's should be spread among 4 garages. 1930-1979 should be split between North Park/77th, and 1980-2029 should be Chicago/103rd. I feel that 103rd should have some new equipment too. I mean come on, sending the oldest of the NF fleet to the southside? Not cool at all. And I say this also because I love the way the new deliveries sound and move. Don't they have that Americana feel to them? If 103rd were to get some of those buses back, then half of 1000-10?? should go to Forest Glen or Archer in exchange for some Novas or Flxible 95's.

I dunno, I just want some of those buses back damit! It's unfair that people who ride the 65/66/72/74, etc... are able to look on the tracker and find buses like #1982 & 1990 everyday. Arrggghh!

Okay, rant over.

I want to see and perhaps ride#1982(my birth-year), if it ever makes at the very least a temporary stop at NP or FG(which are garages I ride stock out of most often). That 1980-Series bus has been elusive!!! I've heard people seeing, riding, or bus tracking #1981, #1983, #1984. #1985, #1986, #1987, #1988, and #1989. But where's #1982?!?

[BusHunter]

I want to see and perhaps ride#1982(my birth-year), if it ever makes at the very least a temporary stop at NP or FG(which are garages I ride stock out of most often). That 1980-Series bus has been elusive!!! I've heard people seeing, riding, or bus tracking #1981, #1983, #1984. #1985, #1986, #1987, #1988, and #1989. But where's #1982?!?

It's around. The #1900 that seemed hardest to spot was #1977. But it since about 2 or 3 weeks ago it appears quite a bit. #4033 is the most elusive to me so far. I've only seen it out twice and now it has body damage according to Santran. I never did find out how bad it was, but it's probably waiting on parts now. #4133 will probably pass it up for mileage in a few days.

[dann]

I want to see and perhaps ride#1982(my birth-year), if it ever makes at the very least a temporary stop at NP or FG(which are garages I ride stock out of most often). That 1980-Series bus has been elusive!!! I've heard people seeing, riding, or bus tracking #1981, #1983, #1984. #1985, #1986, #1987, #1988, and #1989. But where's #1982?!?

I've seen 1970 (my birth year) several times along Michigan Avenue, unfortunately it's on route 151, 146 or 147. Hopefully there'll be a shortage on route 56, the one I always use, and I can see 1970 on that route....

[sw4400]

If buses should get ads based on numbers, then #1701 should get ads for the new "Star Trek" movie coming out in May. :)

[geneking7320]

If buses should get ads based on numbers, then #1701 should get ads for the new "Star Trek" movie coming out in May.

I like that idea!

Why not write CTA and pitch it to them. :lol:

[Buslover88]

1930-1979 should be split between North Park/77th, and 1980-2029 should be Chicago/103rd. I feel that 103rd should have some new equipment too. I mean come on, sending the oldest of the NF fleet to the southside? Not cool at all. And I say this also because I love the way the new deliveries sound and move. Don't they have that Americana feel to them? If 103rd were to get some of those buses back, then half of 1000-10?? should go to Forest Glen or Archer in exchange for some Novas or Flxible 95's.

I dunno, I just want some of those buses back damit! It's unfair that people who ride the 65/66/72/74, etc... are able to look on the tracker and find buses like #1982 & 1990 everyday. Arrggghh!

I feel the same way, Tamir4317. While I may like Chicago having new equipment, they should give some of those buses to 103rd. It's not fair to 103rd. Why don't they send the oldest stuff to NP?

[Busjack]

I feel the same way, Tamir4317. While I may like Chicago having new equipment, they should give some of those buses to 103rd. It's not fair to 103rd. Why don't they send the oldest stuff to NP?

To put this in perspective, 103 may have (at the moment, subject to change at any moment) the oldest and newest 1000s, but not the oldest buses. A, F, and 6 have them. C and K apparently have a few of them.

This is all relative. Why the 1000s are not fungible is certainly beyond me, although, for that reason, there should be little reason to shift them around.

And what will CTA do when it gets the projected 225 stimulus and capital bill buses (estimated)? Probably just more transfers with little rationale.

[santran]

4141 is on property now, almost done with the first round. 4124 was hit on the left side on Saturday on the outer drive. The rear ad rack was torn off and lots of body. Hope they actualy fix it nice, we do not need a new bus out there looking like a NABI.

[Busjack]

Less than 10 remaining of either the 1000s or 4000s. Any contest on which will be completed first? I'm betting on 4149.

[jacksone44]

Less than 10 remaining of either the 1000s or 4000s. Any contest on which will be completed first? I'm betting on 4149.

im betting on 2029 because they don't take as long to build as the 4000's.

[Busjack]

im betting on 2029 because they don't take as long to build as the 4000's.

You can base your bet on what you want, but there is nothing establishing that. What probably controls is what the New Flyer production scheduling department decides.

I'm basing my bet on (1) the 4000s came much quicker than what the CEO of CPS said, and (2) I believe that there was a speed up order given when the apparent retirement of the NABIs became imminent (several months before they were taken off the streets). You can certainly reply that there is nothing establishing either of those premises, either. That's why I said it was a contest.

Maybe they will both show up on the same day, and neither of us will win.

[BusHunter]

If buses should get ads based on numbers, then #1701 should get ads for the new "Star Trek" movie coming out in May.

Yeah, they could have bus #2001 with HAL making the Clever Device announcements for the stops.