New Eldorados?

[Gil]

3 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Did u capture a photo of it

I forgot bro but soon I will, they look as different as the harvey buses but now it's Eldorado national axess 30ft that has similarities to a new flyer. 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Just now, Gil said:

I forgot bro but soon I will, they look as different as the harvey buses but now it's Eldorado national axess 30ft that has similarities to a new flyer. 

Oh ok.

[Gil]

Just now, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Oh ok.

Yea 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Just now, Gil said:

Yea 

Do they have the pace logos on them around it or is it like the 20500's without logos

[Gil]

1 minute ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Do they have the pace logos on them around it or is it like the 20500's without logos

They have a logo it looks awesome, as much as the 20500s series is concerned, it should have a pulse Halsted wrap soon.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Just now, Gil said:

They have a logo it looks awesome, as much as the 20500s series is concerned, it should have a pulse Halsted wrap soon.

Coool.  ?

[Gil]

2 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Coool.  ?

I saw on Wikipedia and I'm right, the new buses are remaining at the Pace Fox Valley Garage for #20300-#20399.

I hope New routes are coming soon 

[ycu2455]

Today’s 20315 at Naperville.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

7 minutes ago, ycu2455 said:

Today’s 20315 at Naperville.

So these are 30 foot Eldorado National Axess BRT buses. Are they diesel or CNG or hybrid?

[Gil]

7 minutes ago, ycu2455 said:

Today’s 20315 at Naperville.

Awesome view #20315 Welcome to Pace Fox Valley Garage, they look kinda similar to #2826, #2827, #2828, And #2829.

[Gil]

Just now, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

So these are 30 foot Eldorado National Axess BRT buses. Are they diesel or CNG or hybrid?

It's diesel

[Gil]

The 20500s series is GNC 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Just now, Gil said:

It's diesel

Oh. Do u know which engine/transmission they got

[Gil]

Just now, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Oh. Do u know which engine/transmission they got

Cummins L9 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Just now, Gil said:

Cummins L9 

Cool. I think they got Allison B400R. Now in service we got 20300 20302(training) 20303 20305 20315 20316

[Gil]

2 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Cool. I think they got Allison B400R. Now in service we got 20300 20302(training) 20303 20305 20315 20316

Soon #20301, #20304,#20306,#20307,#20308,#20309

#20310,#20311,#20312,#20314 will be debuting

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1 hour ago, Gil said:

Soon #20301, #20304,#20306,#20307,#20308,#20309

#20310,#20311,#20312,#20314 will be debuting

So will 20317+

[Gil]

3 minutes ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

So will 20317+

Yes then #20318,#20319,#20320

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

5 minutes ago, Gil said:

Yes then #20318,#20319,#20320

Correct u are 

[Gil]

The 2 of them are debuting 

#20312 is on Pacebus Route 530 West Galena/Fox Valley Mall/Naperville Metra Station to Galena/Constitution

#20319 is on Route 524 West Aurora to Aurora Transportation Center

[Gil]

Another bus is making its debut.

#20310 is on 802 Departing Geneva Metra Station going to the Aurora Transportation Center

 

[jesi2282]

So it looks like Pace is going with high-mounted driver mirrors on all future orders. ???

[artthouwill]

3 minutes ago, jesi2282 said:

So it looks like Pace is going with high-mounted driver mirrors on all future orders. ???

What makes you say that?

[jesi2282]

58 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

What makes you say that?

As someone whose operated buses before, I just prefer low-mounted mirrors over high-mounted. First they did it on the Xcelsiors, and now these new ElDorados. If you look at the older buses like the NABIs, Orion VI and 2600-series ElDorados they all have low-mounted mirrors. Even buses from way back then like the Fishbowls and Grummans had low-mounted mirrors.

[RJL6000]

Actually, the transit agencies have absolutely no say whatsoever about the positioning of the outside mirror height. The sloping front end that modern buses are designed with leave no choice but to position the outside mirrors high up. Otherwise, the low-positioned mirrors would have been too far away from the driver to be of much use.

In order to accommodate the low-mounted outside mirrors, bus manufacturers would have to ditch the modern styling completely and revert back to the old box-shaped styling - one which nobody outside of former Soviet-bloc countries would want to manufacture any more.

And yes, all of the 40-foot ENC Axess buses have those high-mounted mirrors.

By the way, the 30-foot Axess BRT buses are actually a special order from Pace. The Axess BRT remains officially available only in the 35- and 40-foot lengths.