2200-series - Updates (Retired)

[BusHunter]

With the arrival of the #5000's, around the end of 2011, we will start retiring #2200's. Here is a list of their service dates and retirement dates so far. I am missing a few dates mainly with retired cars service dates. If anyone can add to the list it is greatly appreciated. Here is a list of dates in service and retirement dates for the #2200's. All cars scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap were processed at their Chicago Heights Processing facility unless otherwise mentioned. Thanks to Graham Garfield (Chicago-l.org) and Andrethebusman (member here) for their assistance with the scrap dates. (last updated 4/21/14)

#2201-02 in service 9/28/69; on long term hold by 12/12/11; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2201 sent on 8/14/12, car #2202 sent on 8/13/12

#2203-04 in service 9/28/69; on long term hold by 2/7/13; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2203 sent on 3/13/13, car #2204 sent on 3/14/13

#2205-06 in service 9/28/69; on long term hold by 8/19/11; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2205 sent on 6/29/12; car #2206 sent on 7/2/12

#2207-08 in service 9/28/69; on long term hold by 5/26/12; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2207 sent on 8/1/12, car #2208 sent on 8/3/12

#2209-10 in service 9/28/69; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont yard to Skokie Shops overnight on 12/11-12/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2209 sent on 3/24/2014, car #2210 sent on 3/25/2014

#2211-12 in service 9/28/69; moved to the long-term hold list and stored in Rosemont yard by 6/5/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 7/23-24/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2211 sent on 8/9/2013, car #2212 sent on 8/8/2013.

#2213-14 in service 9/28/69; on long term hold by 8/19/12; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2213 on 2/8/13, car #2214 on 2/11/13

#2215-16 in service 9/28/69; on long term hold 5/26/12; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2215 sent on 3/21/2013, car #2216 sent on 3/22/2013

#2217-18 in service 9/13/69; moved to the long term hold list and stored in Rosemont yard by 6/5/13; sent to Skokie Shops overnight on 7/15-16/13 for scrapping; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2217 sent on 7/19/2013, car #2218 sent on 7/22/2013

#2219-20 in service 9/30/69; stored in Rosemont yard since 6/27/13; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 10/23-24/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2219 sent on 11/8/2013, car #2220 sent on 11/7/2013

#2221-22 in service 10/16/69; stored in Rosemont yard since 5/13 awaiting scrapping; sent to Skokie Shops overnight on 7/15-16/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2221 sent on 7/24/2013, car #2222 sent on 7/23/2013

#2223-24 in service 10/9/69; one of the final 10 cars that went out of revenue service 7/31/13; was modified to a farewell old friends car for a final trip and was ran 8/8/13; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 9/5/2013; moved from rosemont yard to skokie shops overnight on 11/26-27; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2223 sent on 12/9/13, car #2224 sent on 12/6/2013

#2225-26 in service 12/12/69; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2225 3/19/13, car #2226 3/20/13

#2227-28 in service 10/17/69; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; sent to Skokie Shops overnight on 8/1-2/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2227 sent on 8/12/2013, car #2228 sent on 8/13/2013

#2229-30 in service 10/10/69; stored in Rosemont yard since 7/14/13; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 10/24-25/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2229 sent on 11/5/2013, car #2230 sent on 11/6/2013

#2231-32 in service 12/16/69; sold to the US Government and sent to Fort Mccoy, Wisconsin for training purposes; car #2231 listed as scrapped on 2/1/12; car #2232 listed as scrapped 1/31/12, but unit remained on long term hold list up until 5/10/12

#2233-34 in service 12/19/69; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 2/7/13; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 11/6-7/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2233 sent on 12/13/2013, car #2234 sent on 12/16/2013

#2235-36 in service 12/16/69; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 7/23-24/13; scrapped by 4/14

#2237-38 in service 12/16/69; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 8/2-3/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2237 sent on 8/14/2013; car #2238 sold to Joe Cacciatore, Catchmo Media, sent on 11/7/2013

#2239-40 in service 12/16/69; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 8/8-9/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2239 sent on 10/24/2013, car #2240 sent on 10/23/2013

#2241-42 in service 12/16/69; on long term hold 2/7/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2241 on 3/11/13; car #2242 on 3/12/13

#2243-44 in service 12/20/69; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; bought by the Illinois Railway Museum for preservation 6/7/13; sent to Skokie Shops yard 6/14/13; car #2243 was delivered to IRM on 7/10/13, car #2244 was delivered on 7/11/13 (pictures on the IRM blog) "http://www2.irm.org/blogs/archives/1522-2200s-Arrive.html"

#2245-46 in service 12/22/69; on long term hold 5/26/12; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2245 on 5/26/12; car #2246 on 5/30/12

#2247-48 in service 1/3/70; on long term hold 2/22/12, scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2247 on 7/24/12, car #2248 on 7/23/12

#2249-50 in service 1/5/70; was one of the final 10 cars that went out of revenue service 7/31/13; was modified to a farewell old friends car for a final trip and was ran 8/8/13; unit moved from active service to the long term hold list 9/5/13; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 11/13-14/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2249 sent on 12/11/2013, car #2250 sent on 12/12/2013

#2251-52 in service 1/2/70; on long term hold 5/26/12; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2251 on 8/6/12; car #2252 on 1/16/13

#2253-54 in service 1/16/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 8/19/2012; stored at Skokie Shops yard; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2253 sent on 3/18/13, car #2254 sent on 3/15/2013

#2255-56 in service 1/9/70; taken out of service 7/12/13, stored at Rosemont yard; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 11/20-21/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2255 sent on 12/2/2013, car #2256 sent on 12/3/2013

#2257-58 in service unknown; removed from service after #2258 had a trolley block fire on the Congress Line between California and Western on 1/15/97; car #2257 initially stored at Skokie Shops, then assigned to the CTA Maintenance Training Facility (initially at Hawthorne, then later at IIT), then moved to Skokie Shops on an interim basis on 12/9/04, then moved to Linden Shops on 2/18/05, car scrapped on 4/21/2011; car #2258 removed from service due to severe damage resulting from the 1/15/97 fire, laid up at Desplaines Yard when scouts from Universal Studios saw it on a scouting trip for Mercury Rising, body sold by CTA to studio on 6/25/97 and shipped to Hollywood where it was used in the filming for Mercury Rising, later modified with red and blue stripes to mimic a Los Angles Red Line train for another film, subsequently used in Spiderman II and other features.

#2259-60 in service 1/16/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; 6/14/13 went to Skokie Shops yard to be scrapped; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2259 sent on 7/3/13, car #2260 sent on 7/2/2013

#2261-62 in service 1/25/70; stored and awaiting scrapping 6/21/13 Rosemont yard; went to Skokie shops 8/9/13 for scrapping; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2261 sent on 11/4/2013, car #2262 sent on 11/11/2013

#2263-64 in service 1/27/70; stored in Rosemont Yard 6/14/13; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 10/14-15/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2263 sent on 11/13/2013, car #2264 sent on 11/14/2013

#2265-66 in service 1/25/70; Unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 2/22/2012; stored at Rosemont yard; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2265 sent on 6/27/2012, car #2266 sent on 6/28/2012

#2267-68 in service 1/25/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; stored at Skokie Shops yard; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2267 sent on 6/27/13, car #2268 sent on 6/26/2013

#2269-70 in service 2/5/70; on long term hold 2/22/12 and stored in Des Plaines yard, scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2269 on 7/27/12; car #2270 on 7/26/12

#2271-72 in service 2/26/70; stored at Rosemont yard 7/12/13; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 10/29-30/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2271 sent on 12/19/2013, car #2272 sent on 12/20/2013

#2273-74 in service 2/27/70; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 4/3-4/13, then from Skokie Shops to 61st yard overnight on 4/18-19/03; converted to switchmen's locker room/breakroom for temporary reactivation of 61st yard during Red Line South Reconstruction Project. It still sits at 61st Yard as of 4/16/14

#2275-76 in service 3/3/70; on long term hold 12/12/11; car #2275 sold to the US government and sent to Fort McCoy, Wisconsin for training purposes; listed as scrap 2/2/12 but remained on roster under long term hold list until 5/10/12; car #2276 scrapped at Belson Center Steel Processing Facility in Chicago Heights, Illinois on 5/14/12

#2277-78 in service 2/25/70; on long term hold 11/20/11, scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2277 on 7/16/12; car #2278 on 7/17/12

#2279-80 in service 2/5/70; put on long term hold 8/19/12; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2279 on 9/14/12; car #2280 on 9/14/12

#2281-82 in service 3/2/70; put on long term hold 1/10/11; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap,car #2281 on 6/25/12; car #2282 on 6/22/12

#2283-84 in service 2/26/70; put on long term hold 6/12/11; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2283 on 5/8/12; car #2284 on 5/9/12

#2285-86 in service 3/2/70; unit scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap,car #2285 on 5/23/12; car #2286 on 5/22/12

#2287-88 in service 2/5/70; put on long term hold 12/12/11; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2287 on 7/5/12; car #2288 on 7/6/12

#2289-90 in service unknown; unit damaged in loop accident on 2/4/77; authorized by CTA for retirement on 12/21/82; held in storage as on 9/6/83; scrapped on 7/22/86 at Pielet Brothers Scrap In McCook, Illinois (pictures of damage to #2289) "http://www.chicago-l.org/trains/gallery/images/2200/cta2289.jpg" (picture and audio recording of accident at Lake/Wabash in 1977) "http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/02/audio-remembering-feb-4-1977-loop-cta.html" (additional pictures and info at Chicago-l.org)"http://www.chicago-l.org/mishaps/loop.html"

#2291-92 in service 2/13/70; put on long term hold list 10/10/10 to provide a pool of spare parts for the rest of the fleet; was removed off the roster 6/12/11; scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap Processing Facility in Chicago Heights, Illinois - car #2291 on 5/4/12; car #2292 on 5/3/12

#2293-94 in service 2/10/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 2/7/13; temporarily stored at Harlem Yard; transferred from Harlem Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 3/27-28/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2293 sent on 5/8/2013, car #2294 sent on 5/9/2013

#2295-96 in service 2/12/70; stored and awaiting scrapping 6/21/13 at Rosemont yard; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 10/15-16/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2295 sent on 10/29/2013, car #2296 sent on 10/30/2013

#2297-98 in service 2/13/70; put on long term hold 12/12/11, scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2297 on 7/30/12; car #2298 on 7/31/12

#2299-#2300 in service 2/18/70; put on long term hold 12/12/11, scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2299 on 8/16/12; car #2300 on 8/17/12

#2301-02 in service 2/19/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 2/7/13; transferred from Rosemont yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 4/3-4/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2301 sent on 5/3/13; car #2302 sent on 5/2/13

#2303-04 in service 2/25/70; stored and awaiting scrapping at Rosemont yard 7/4/13; unit moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 7/15/2013; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 11/12-13/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2303 sent on 12/4/2013, car #2304 sent on 12/5/2013

#2305-06 in service 2/26/70; put on long term hold 8/19/12; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2305 on 1/24/13; car #2306 on 1/21/13

#2307-08 in service unknown; Unit involved in accident at Addison/Blue line in 1976; car #2307 renumbered #2351 and paired with #2352 (formerly #2316) on 6/30/82; car #2308 severely damaged in Addison/Blue line accident; authorized by CTA for retirement on 12/21/82; held in storage as of 9/6/83; scrapped on 7/23/86 by Pielet Brothers Scrap in McCook, Illinois

#2309-10 in service 4/6/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 6/5/2013; stored at Skokie Shops yard; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2309 sent on 7/17/2013; car #2310 sent on 7/18/2013

#2311-12 in service 3/17/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 2/7/13; temporarily stored at Harlem Yard; transferred from Harlem Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 3/27-28/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2311 sent on 5/6/2013; car #2312 sent on 5/7/2013

#2313-14 in service 3/20/70; stored in Rosemont yard since early 5/13; sent to Skokie Shops 8/9/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2313 sent on 10/21/2013, car #2314 sent on 10/22/2013

#2315-16 in service unknown; Unit involved in accident at Chicago/Milwaukee in 11/77; with car #2315 suffering shattered passenger side motorcab windshield and a portion of the windshield frame was damaged, unit transferred to Skokie Shops for repairs, car #2315 damaged in fire at Skokie Shops yard that started on S-606 on 11/26/77; authorized by CTA for retirement on 12/21/82; held in storage as on 9/6/83; scrapped on 7/23/86 by Pielet Brothers Scrap in McCook, Illinois; car #2316 was renumbered #2352 and paired with #2351 (originally #2307) after mate was authorized for retirement side #2315 (picture of burnt out #2315) "http://www.chicago-l.org/trains/gallery/images/2200/cta2315.jpg"

#2317-18 in service 3/30/70; taken out of service 7/12/13; stored at Rosemont yard;unit moved from active service to the long term hold list 7/15/13; moved from Rosemont yard to Skokie Shops overnight on 11/27-28/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2317 sent on 12/10/2013, car #2318 sold to UNICOR/Federal Prison Industries, sent on 1/9/2014

#2319-20 in service 4/1/70; on long term hold by 2/7/13; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 5/21-22/13; car #2319 scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap on 10/31/2013; car #2320 sold to Paramount Pictures for the movie Transformers IV, removed from CTA property on 7/9/2013; went to Detroit for filming T4 where it was dropped from a crane; (pictures of #2320 in Detroit)
(picture 1) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-smJyTxXRJ8A/UfbDuvnEtdI/AAAAAAAAQZM/w7XgH5ekogI/s1600/TF4DetroitJerryBChinaSet23.jpg
(picture 2) http://p.blogspot.com/-JoqjFgjSU4I/UfbDvCLDCVI/AAAAAAAAQZs/DMpZV9sx5zA/s1600/TF4DetroitJerryBChinaSet25.jpg
it's future is undetermined

#2321-22 in service 4/6/70; on long term hold by 2/7/13; sent to Skokie Shops 5/19/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car 2321 sent on 5/13/2013; car 2322 sent on 5/10/2013

#2323-24 in service 4/3/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 2/7/13; transferred from Rosemont Yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 5/21-22/13; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2323 sent on 5/30/2013; car #2324 sent on 5/31/2013

#2325-26 in service 4/2/70; on long term hold by 11/22/10; removed from car roster by 6/12/11; Scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2325 on 5/2/12; car #2326 on 4/25/12

#2327-28 in service 12/24/70; was one of the final 10 cars that went out of revenue service 7/31/13 was modified to a farewell old friends car for a final trip and was ran 8/8/13; moved to the long term hold list 9/5/13; sat at Harlem Yard (Green Line) until early March 2014 when it was transferred to Skokie Shops. Scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2327 sent on 3/14/2014; car #2328 sent on 3/13/2014

#2329-30 in service 12/22/70; put on long term hold 10/12/10 to provide a pool of parts for the remaining fleet; removed from car roster by 6/12/11; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2329 on 4/20/12; car #2330 on 4/19/12

#2331-32 in service 4/21/70; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2331 on 5/16/12; car #2332 on 5/15/12

#2333-34 in service 12/12/70; stored and awaiting scrapping at Rosemont yard 7/12/13; transferred from Rosemont yard to Skokie Shops yard overnight on 10/31-11/1/13; scrapped by Belson Steel
Center Scrap, car #2333 sent on 12/18/2013, car #2334 sent on 12/17/2013

#2335-36 in service 11/13/70; put on long term hold 8/19/11; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2335 on 4/18/12; car #2336 on 4/18/12

#2337-38 in service 11/13/70; moved from active service to the long-term hold list by 8/19/2012, stored at Skokie Shops yard; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2337 sent on 3/26/2013, car #2338 sent on 3/25/2013

#2339-40 in service 10/6/70; was one of the final 10 cars that went out of revenue service 7/31/13; was modified to a farewell old friends car for a final trip and was ran 8/8/13; moved to the long term hold list 9/5/13; sat at Harlem Yard (Green Line) until early March 2014 when it was sent to Skokie Shops; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2339 sent on 3/21/2014; car #2340 sent on 3/20/2014

#2341-42 in service unknown; Involved in derailment At Cicero/Douglas on 9/24/79; car #2341 converted to a training car scrapped on 6/27/01; car #2342 suffered damage from Cicero/Douglas accident; authorized by CTA for retirement on 12/21/82; held in storage as of 9/6/83; scrapped on 7/22/86 at Pielet Brothers Scrap in McCook, Illinois (pictures of damage to #2342) "http://www.chicago-l.org/trains/gallery/images/2200/cta2342.jpg" (pictures of accident at Cicero/Douglas)"http://www.chicago-l.org/mishaps/cicero.gif"

#2343-44 in service 12/22/70; on long term hold 2/7/13; was stored in rosemont yard with a busted window in motorman's cab, boarded up; removed 5/13 to Skokie Shops, scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap; car #2343 sent on 5/15/2013, car #2344 sent on 5/14/2013; spotted 6/25/13 being transported via flatbed truck on I-80 as a hull. (totally stripped, picture on Pg 15 of this thread, thanks to Dann)

#2345-46 in service 12/22/70; on long term hold list 6/12/11; back in service early 2012; was one of the final 10 cars that went out of revenue service 7/31/13 was modified to a farewell old friends car for a final trip and was ran 8/8/13; moved to the long term hold list 9/5/13; sat at Harlem Yard (Green Line) until early March 2014 when it was sent to Skokie Shops; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2345 sent on 3/19/2014; car #2346 sent on 3/17/2014

#2347-48 in service 11/13/70; stored in 54th Yard 8/12; back in service 9/12; stored in Rosemont yard since early 5/13; sent to Skokie Shops 8/1/13; it went up for bid auction on 12/18/13 at Rick Levin Auctions and one of the cars was sold to a Jungle Jim's International Market in Fairfield, Ohio. (Press Release To Jungle Jim's) Rumor has it that the second car was sold to Google for their Chicago offices.

#2349-50 in service 11/13/70; on long term hold list by 12/12/11, scrapped at Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2349 on 1/17/13; car #2350 on 1/18/13

#2351-52 in service 6/30/82 (date #2307 and #2316 were remated and put into service bearing these new numbers): moved from active service to the long-term hold list and stored at Rosemont yard by 6/5/2013; stored at Skokie Shops yard; scrapped by Belson Steel Center Scrap, car #2351 sent on 6/28/2013, car #2352 sent on 7/1/2013

7/31/13 was the final date in revenue service on the Blue line.

On 8/8/13, a special farewell trip was run by the CTA, Cars stored in Rosemont yard will remain there until enough extra #2600's are transferred over to replace them.

Here is a lifetime assignment sheet for the #2200's so far.

[geneking7320]

I can remember in my long ago youth seeing these cars being tested in the median of the Dan Ryan Expwy prior to opening of the Lake-Dan Ryan rapid transit. My how time has flown.

Gene King

[Busjack]

Those must be official roster dates, but based on that, darn few were available upon the opening of the Dan Ryan on September 28, 1969. I seem to remember that the Lake-Dan Ryan had a full fleet when it started, but mostly 2000s. However, I needed to refresh my recollection by going to CERA 115, page 115, which said that 54 2200s were on the Lake-Dan Ryan. If this list is correct, that indicates that it was running short into January.

In that the Jefferson Park extension opened on Feb. 1, 1970, it must have been short, too. However, CERA indicates that the reason it got 96 cars was that 40 2000s were shifted from the WNW to LDR. Apparently some got shifted back 2 years later.

Having ridden the LDR starting about 1970, I have to concur with Gene King.

[cta5658]

has anyone seen the 2200's in a lake dan ryan consist with the 2600's on the lake dan ryan?

[Busjack]

has anyone seen the 2200's in a lake dan ryan consist with the 2600's on the lake dan ryan?

The only thing I saw were 2200s with 2000s (initially that didn't happen, and it was somewhat surprising to see stainless cars with green ones).

By the time I got back, 2600s were mixed with 2400s, but the 2200s were all on the WNW. However, I am not in a position to say what happened basically between 1986 and 1994.

[trainman8119]

When the 2600s were put on the Lake Dan Ryan, the remaining 2200s there were moved to the West Northwest Route. Later the 2000s were moved to Howard for a time and finally the Green Line. The 2000s were retired when the Green was closed for rehab.

[Busjack]

The 2000s were retired when the Green was closed for rehab.

Chicago-L.org has them all scrapped or earlier disposed of by early 1994 (I thought the official retirement date was 1993), with the arrival of the 3200s, in that about 100 3200s were required for the Orange Line, and the other 156 or so to retire the 2000s. But then, Chicago-L.org has the Green Line closing in 1994, so I guess that the cause and effect were not as clear as I thought, but it still looks like the impetus was the arrival of the latter portion of the 3200s.

[trainman8119]

Chicago-L.org has them all scrapped or earlier disposed of by early 1994 (I thought the official retirement date was 1993), with the arrival of the 3200s, in that about 100 3200s were required for the Orange Line, and the other 156 or so to retire the 2000s. But then, Chicago-L.org has the Green Line closing in 1994, so I guess that the cause and effect were not as clear as I thought, but it still looks like the impetus was the arrival of the latter portion of the 3200s.

I believe you are correct. I just used the time frame of the Green Line closure as a benchmark, as they were being used there up to their demise and I remember them being there in their final days.

[jajuan]

If I recall correctly, the Green Line closed very early in 1994, January I believe because when I started the spring semester (which starts in January) at IIT in 1994 the Green Line was gone and I was using 23 and that period's 38 to get to class. Perhaps that's why you remember the 2000s retirement as 1993 Busjack along with Trainman and I remember them being in use up to the closing of the line for rehab.

[Guest ctafan630]

Were the 2200's ever coupled with the 6000's on the WNW line?

[Busjack]

Were the 2200's ever coupled with the 6000's on the WNW line?

No. According to CERA, the cars were not electrically compatible, had different control systems, and a different number of pins in the electrical coupler (to assure that they weren't connected). They said you could push one with the other in an emergency, but you couldn't operate them that way.

[BusHunter]

If I recall correctly, the Green Line closed very early in 1994, January I believe because when I started the spring semester (which starts in January) at IIT in 1994 the Green Line was gone and I was using 23 and that period's 38 to get to class. Perhaps that's why you remember the 2000s retirement as 1993 Busjack along with Trainman and I remember them being in use up to the closing of the line for rehab.

Your all correct, the last #2000 (#2067-68) was retired 12/28/93 with the green line being cut from the rest of the system on 1/9/94. Of course this doesn't count 1892-1992 (former #2007-08) painted to celebrate the Centennial of the South Side "L". These cars still exist at Skokie Shops, but their paint job is getting beat up by the weather.

[Busjack]

Your all correct, the last #2000 (#2179-80) was retired 12/21/93 with the green line being cut from the rest of the system on 1/9/94. Of course this doesn't count 1892-1992 (former #2007-08) painted to celebrate the Centennial of the South Side "L". These cars still exist at Skokie Shops, but their paint job is getting beat up by the weather.

Of course, that means that the other 17X were retired before then. Just like it appears that the first 54 2200s weren't all there on the first day of Dan Ryan service (IIRC, it started with 6 car trains and then went to 8, so maybe they didn't need all the cars at once), 170 some 2000s didn't drop from the roster on the day the Green Line closed.

[Guest ctafan630]

No. According to CERA, the cars were not electrically compatible, had different control systems, and a different number of pins in the electrical coupler (to assure that they weren't connected). They said you could push one with the other in an emergency, but you couldn't operate them that way.

OK. Thanks for the information. I was just thinking ahead as to how a museum like IRM or FRTM might be able to operate the 2200's in the future assuming they get a pair. Since the 2200's never had overhead wires, I thought they might be able to couple them to an older CTA car that had them.

[BusHunter]

Of course, that means that the other 17X were retired before then. Just like it appears that the first 54 2200s weren't all there on the first day of Dan Ryan service (IIRC, it started with 6 car trains and then went to 8, so maybe they didn't need all the cars at once), 170 some 2000s didn't drop from the roster on the day the Green Line closed.

Stay tuned, I have another list for #2000's just like the #2200's one I put up. I'll see if I can put it up. It's a little different the retirement dates are actual dates of scrapping, but most of those cars were running about a week to a month earlier.

[Busjack]

I probably should have mentioned in response to the indicated BusHunter and ctafan630 posts that there are the two at IRM, 2153 and 2154. Those have been more known as vandalism targets, and as ctafan630 indicates, probably can't be operated in fan service.

The Matchbox trolley is more fun, anyway.

[Scionic]

(First post, sorry for the necropost)

I've only lived in Chicago for about a year and a half now, but the CTA rail system fascinates me. I grew up in Cleveland, where the closest thing we had available was the RTA Rapid Transit.

Anyways, living here now, it's a shame to see the 2200 series go. I find them to be far less dated-looking than the more recent cars. Aspect lights inside the cab, stainless steel inside and out, and no godawful-ugly wood paneling! I know they aren't accessible and probably fail quite a lot, but I like those old things. Noisy in the subways, but I find myself deliberately waiting in the middle of the Blue Line platform so I'll be on a 2200.

[Busjack]

... Anyways, living here now, it's a shame to see the 2200 series go. I find them to be far less dated-looking than the more recent cars. Aspect lights inside the cab, stainless steel inside and out, and no godawful-ugly wood paneling! I know they aren't accessible and probably fail quite a lot, but I like those old things. Noisy in the subways, but I find myself deliberately waiting in the middle of the Blue Line platform so I'll be on a 2200.

If only the bodies counted, they probably are in as good of shape as they were in 1969, considering that they were the first Chicago cars made of stainless steel. However, problems undoubtedly have to do with the undercar electrical equipment, as well as the ADA accessibility issue.

As far as the wood paneling inside the later cars, the decor is based on the New Looks in the 1970s, and, based on Huberman's presentations on how the decors could have been updated, I am surprised that subsequent brass went along with that 38 year old look, only altered by replacing the vinyl inserts with the more vandal-proof fabric ones. But to go full circle, you should have seen the 2200s when they still had black leather upholstered seats. That was impressive.

[Guest]

(First post, sorry for the necropost)

I've only lived in Chicago for about a year and a half now, but the CTA rail system fascinates me. I grew up in Cleveland, where the closest thing we had available was the RTA Rapid Transit.

Anyways, living here now, it's a shame to see the 2200 series go. I find them to be far less dated-looking than the more recent cars. Aspect lights inside the cab, stainless steel inside and out, and no godawful-ugly wood paneling! I know they aren't accessible and probably fail quite a lot, but I like those old things. Noisy in the subways, but I find myself deliberately waiting in the middle of the Blue Line platform so I'll be on a 2200.

Ive been to Cleveland And I absolutely enjoy riding the Red Line. I love those Tokyu Japanese cars. It has an interurban feel to it with the overhead catenary and light rail running side by side. Pretty awesome if you ask me!

[Scionic]

Ive been to Cleveland And I absolutely enjoy riding the Red Line. I love those Tokyu Japanese cars. It has an interurban feel to it with the overhead catenary and light rail running side by side. Pretty awesome if you ask me!

Last time I was home, it was kind of amusing to see a single-car Red Line roll up. After coming from Chicago where an off-peak train is a 4-car consist, seeing a peak-period train run with 1 car and not be crowded? Weird. I like the Breda LRT cars on the Blue/Green/Waterfront line myself. I was 14 when the Waterfront Line opened in mid-1996 - It was a HUUUUUGE deal at the time. I always thought those LRT cars were where it's at, even though the cars are 30 years old, they don't really show their age to me. The Red Line cars look they were built 3000 years ago to me!

[BusHunter]

Looks like the retirement of #2200's has begun. Per the 6/12/11 assignment list #2291-92, #2325-26, and #2329-30 have been authorized for retirement. #2283-84 and #2345-46 are now on long term hold. With the #5000's coming in shortly those 4 cars are most likely never going to be returned to service. I edited my list (first post under this topic) to reflect the new changes as well as the old ones. There are now 132 cars left for those wondering what's left for #2200's.

[BusHunter]

I added a lifetime assignment list to the first post in this thread, so we have a better idea where the cars were at a given period.

[MRCTA]

Looks like the retirement of #2200's has begun. Per the 6/12/11 assignment list #2291-92, #2325-26, and #2329-30 have been authorized for retirement. #2283-84 and #2345-46 are now on long term hold. With the #5000's coming in shortly those 4 cars are most likely never going to be returned to service. I edited my list (first post under this topic) to reflect the new changes as well as the old ones. There are now 132 cars left for those wondering what's left for #2200's.

The 2200s have probably been around since 1970(or 1969)when they were on the then Lake-Dan Ryan line. They were built by the Budd company.

[MRCTA]

(First post, sorry for the necropost)

I've only lived in Chicago for about a year and a half now, but the CTA rail system fascinates me. I grew up in Cleveland, where the closest thing we had available was the RTA Rapid Transit.

Anyways, living here now, it's a shame to see the 2200 series go. I find them to be far less dated-looking than the more recent cars. Aspect lights inside the cab, stainless steel inside and out, and no godawful-ugly wood paneling! I know they aren't accessible and probably fail quite a lot, but I like those old things. Noisy in the subways, but I find myself deliberately waiting in the middle of the Blue Line platform so I'll be on a 2200.

How do you like living in Chicago and the Chicago Transit Authority? I've lived here all my life(since I was born here in 1961)and, as a little boy, I rode the old CTA buses(especially the propane buses known them as LP-gas buses)anyways, if you want CTA badges, be sure to go to Ebay(ebay.com)and check them out! To do that, once you're in Ebay's website, punch "CTA Badges" in the website search engine! BTW, did they have propane transit buses in Cleveland?

[trainman8119]

The decline of the 2200s seems to be showing up. I have noticed an increased number of consists the past few weeks with 6 2600s and 2 2200s instead of what was 4 and 4. Also quite a few complete 8 car sets of 2600s too. I have not noticed a 2900 under 2961 as of yet.