Sam92 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Were you meaning to add something behind Bushunter's quote Sam? You put up an otherwise empty post. Just fixed it :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Just fixed it I see it now. It's interesting that they would jump to assign any of the new artics to North Park even if it is just one you saw so far when they only just began assigning some to Kedzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL6000 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well, for the moment north park now has a hybrid assigned. Saw it crossing the michigan ave bridge bearing a "North Park Garage" sign. It has to be one of the five buses in the 4300-4332 group that have not yet been officially placed into service (4313, 4320, 4322, 4326 or 4332). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL6000 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Due to the forthcoming Chicago Auto Show beginning tomorrow, expect many of the artics (both 4000- and 4300-series) to be used on special downtown-to-McCormick-Place express shuttles. In addition, during the next two weekends expect a couple of the runs on the #21 Cermak to be operated with artics. I was wrong for this particular weekend. #21 is still operated entirely with 40-footers, and it is unknown if any special shuttles are being operated for the Auto Show (since those shuttles do not appear on BusTracker). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I was wrong for this particular weekend. #21 is still operated entirely with 40-footers, and it is unknown if any special shuttles are being operated for the Auto Show (since those shuttles do not appear on BusTracker). I don't see any Press Release for service this year. I put Auto Show into the search box on transitchicago.com, and get all prior years, but not 2013. ABC7 and Metra say the service is being provided, but Googling indicates that those are the only two sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 That's what my post here mentioned. I'm suprised you didn't notice that. Both jajuan and I noted that that post was wrong--at least the "I would expect that to be bid on later this year." I'm surprised you didn't notice that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Well, for the moment north park now has a hybrid assigned. Saw it crossing the michigan ave bridge bearing a "North Park Garage" sign. Are you sure it was assigned to NP? Did you see a run number? I saw a bus yesterday close to there (#6872), I swear it had a North Park garage sign too, and we know that's a 77th bus. Also there were some odd equipment sightings last night over the Michigan avenue bridge, I saw #4314 with a Mccormick place sign on the bridge and another #4300 laying over up by the John Hancock Center at Chestnut/Mies Van Der Rohe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm not going to keep arguing this discussion. But to close it out, show me where you get 600, because the RFP I read was for 450 buses(mixed 40' and 60' buses). That was the only RFP ever put out for buses recently. They can only go up to 400 NOVA LFS buses because the RFP this is from is a minimum 300/maximum 400 40' buses and a minimum 50/maximum 150. Whatever amount of 40' and 60' buses the CTA orders must equal 450, as that is what the RFP required. If you can't show a 600 RFP or another 150 RFP seperate from the 450, then you have your answer. You didn't read Addendum TWO did you? See here and especially here. You didn't contest then, nor can you contest, that I downloaded Addendum TWO, And the amended solicitation to which I linked is still live. jajuan is correct about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 You didn't read Addendum TWO did you? See here and especially here. You didn't contest then, nor can you contest, that I downloaded Addendum TWO, And the amended solicitation to which I linked is still live. jajuan is correct about you. Thank you for showing me Addendum two. I only saw Addendum one for 450 only(300 40', 150 60'), not 600. I couldn't even find it or this one on the transitchicago webpage anymore. I don't have a clue where you found it, but that was all I was asking for was information the CTA put up stating 600 buses were going to be order with up to 450 being 40' buses and up to 150 being 60' buses. Anyways, this argument is closed now. I have closed it with jajuan and wish to not bring it up again(especially with this link now showing me the solicitation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Are you sure it was assigned to NP? Did you see a run number? I saw a bus yesterday close to there (#6872), I swear it had a North Park garage sign too, and we know that's a 77th bus. Also there were some odd equipment sightings last night over the Michigan avenue bridge, I saw #4314 with a Mccormick place sign on the bridge and another #4300 laying over up by the John Hancock Center at Chestnut/Mies Van Der Rohe. Maybe it was a McCormick Place sign I saw and got confused with North Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoNova Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Now 4339 is in service working Route #6 Jackson Park Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I was wrong for this particular weekend. #21 is still operated entirely with 40-footers, and it is unknown if any special shuttles are being operated for the Auto Show (since those shuttles do not appear on BusTracker). Shuttles are running. The usual one from downtown that started yesterday and ends on the 18th and the weekend one from the Orange Line. The CTA put the flyers up on the rail stations and the buses. But I think they may have put them up a little later than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Thank you for showing me Addendum two. I only saw Addendum one for 450 only(300 40', 150 60'), not 600. I couldn't even find it or this one on the transitchicago webpage anymore. I don't have a clue where you found it, but that was all I was asking for was information the CTA put up stating 600 buses were going to be order with up to 450 being 40' buses and up to 150 being 60' buses. Anyways, this argument is closed now. I have closed it with jajuan and wish to not bring it up again(especially with this link now showing me the solicitation). Actually I closed it with you since I gave the correct info but either way it's closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL6000 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Shuttles are running. The usual one from downtown that started yesterday and ends on the 18th and the weekend one from the Orange Line. The CTA put the flyers up on the rail stations and the buses. But I think they may have put them up a little later than usual. And without actually going there it is unclear as to whether they are operated with artics or 40-footers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I caught 4334 on Michigan Ave last Friday, artic not hybrid working the 6 4331.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoNova Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I caught 4334 on Michigan Ave last Friday, artic not hybrid working the 6 4331.bmp That 4334 is actually now on the J14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 And without actually going there it is unclear as to whether they are operated with artics or 40-footers. Well they have a past history of using both because as I recall in past years the shuttles were buses on hand from garages across the system including garages that didn't have artics. This has especially been true in the years after the closing of Archer Garage, which used to provide the bulk of the shuttles as the downtown shuttle started based in part upon the structure of the old 127 route as it was structured from 1987 to 1994 when it served McCormick Place and given Archer was one of the garages that housed the route from 1982-2002 based on info from Bill V's research. In fact before 2006 the year that began 127's odd restructuring that gave it that two way circular loop structure as the 127 Roosevelt/Madison Circulator assigned to Kedzie, the downtown Auto Show shuttle was assigned the 127 number because it was considered special Auto Show service on the 127 route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Yesterday [2/11/2013] I saw 4333 westbound on Adams at Clark working #151. I am guessing it was the short portion of the route handled by the Kedzie garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL6000 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Add two more 4300s - 4340 and 4341 - as being based at Kedzie Garage. They are on the #156 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Yesterday [2/11/2013] I saw 4333 westbound on Adams at Clark working #151. I am guessing it was the short portion of the route handled by the Kedzie garage. That would be correct since 4333 has in recent weeks been reassigned from 103rd to Kedzie and given that they've been steering mostly clean diesels to Kedzie while the hybrids have mostly been going to 103rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoNova Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 That would be correct since 4333 has in recent weeks been reassigned from 103rd to Kedzie and given that they've been steering mostly clean diesels to Kedzie while the hybrids have mostly been going to 103rd. Is 4321 still at Kedzie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Is 4321 still at Kedzie? As far as I know it is. No one has reported seeing it elsewhere. Plus I know I haven't seen it pop up on either 6 or J14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Is 4321 still at Kedzie? Yeah I saw it on the #156 yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Add two more 4300s - 4340 and 4341 - as being based at Kedzie Garage. They are on the #156 right now. #4340 has a problem with the destination sign. It's stuck on a demo sign. I only caught part of it passing by it said "courtesy of the CTA". Anyway they put a paper sign on the front destination. Looks kind of weird. Probably another defect. The bus is appearing on Bustracker though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 #4340 has a problem with the destination sign. It's stuck on a demo sign. I only caught part of it passing by it said "courtesy of the CTA". Anyway they put a paper sign on the front destination. Looks kind of weird. Probably another defect. The bus is appearing on Bustracker though. Frozen sign controllers are nothing new. Of course, the paper sign is old school too. The surprising thing is that anything would be courtesy of the CTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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