renardo870 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Rumor has it that effective 4/2/17, 98th St Yard will temporarily close due to construction of the 95th St Station and Red South equipment will be stored at 63rd/Ashland Yard and restore some Red trains via Green from Howard to 63rd/Ashland as well as to 95th St. Certain weekend closures of 95th with trains and buses going to 87th St. Could anyone shed some light into this? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renardo870 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yeah, I got the info....just waiting if the Ahsland branch will return to 24 hrs service and run 30mins owl. Thanks for responding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.cta85 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 YES!!!!! This is great stuff ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 2/14/2017 at 8:08 PM, chicagopcclcar said: You are correct 870. Its coming back.....ENGLEWOOD "A". And I thought I'd never see this day again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 So these are in service not running light? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, BusHunter said: So these are in service not running light? Good question. as @renardo870 only indicated that access to the yard or past 87th was blocked, not that the whole Dan Ryan segment would be closed as it was a couple of years ago, although he also mentioned restoring some Red Line-Ashland trips. I bet not many.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Plus you would have to wonder about the storage capabilities. Does the green line have the storage capacity to coexist with the red line in the same yard. Will they possibly share fleets and if not how will the green line be able to store all its equipment in harlem yard? Harlem yard only has the storage capacity of 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, BusHunter said: Plus you would have to wonder about the storage capabilities. Does the green line have the storage capacity to coexist with the red line in the same yard. Will they possibly share fleets and if not how will the green line be able to store all its equipment in harlem yard? Harlem yard only has the storage capacity of 100. There's always 61st yard, if space is an issue, even if it administratively run out of some other yard. I doubt that all of the 98th Yard staff is going to be furloughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, BusHunter said: Plus you would have to wonder about the storage capabilities. Does the green line have the storage capacity to coexist with the red line in the same yard. Will they possibly share fleets and if not how will the green line be able to store all its equipment in harlem yard? Harlem yard only has the storage capacity of 100. Think that question was answered in 2013 with the reconstruction project, hence making the storage issue nonexistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, chicagopcclcar said: Headed for Ashland/63rd with RED ROLLSIGNS. Photo location: 59th Interlocking on Alley "L". Added details: Monday through Friday rush hours only, starting in April. More details coming, "film at 22:00." Which brings up the question of signage for the Ashland trips. They could use the Green Line signage or they could make signage with red lettering on a White background. I don't think using the red Ashland/63 signage is a good idea. Also, is it possible that all 800 runs will run to 95th with all of the 900 runs starting and ending at Ashland with any middle trips going from Howard to 95th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, artthouwill said: Which brings up the question of signage for the Ashland trips. They could use the Green Line signage or they could make signage with red lettering on a White background. I don't think using the red Ashland/63 signage is a good idea. Since (despite what someone said) they are programmable they can be whatever is programmed, but since last time they were white on a red background,* I wouldn't assume anything else, except maybe because the 63rds may be only yard trips. Clearly Howard=63rd signs were not green the last time. *Certainly not an issue this time that some of the cars were 2600s and needed new roll signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Probably if using passengers they would need to change the signs or they'll have to add red line signs at all the south side stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, BusHunter said: Probably if using passengers they would need to change the signs or they'll have to add red line signs at all the south side stops. Except King and Cottage Grave The question is how this change affects South Side Green Line service? Will some Green Line trains from Harlem end at Roosevelt or circle the Loop with thru trips only going to Cottage Grove? EVEN with continued Red Line to 95th, would the Red service on the SMS be high enough to warrant a change in regular Green Line service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 And also you got to wonder how this hurts dan ryan service if some of the trains are going via green line south. I don't really see the need for so many green lines to Ashland/63rd in the rush. They could do a few loop trains but that hurts the elevated loop ridership as no one will be waiting for the few trains that show up on an opposing track. So that may be a no go!! Like Juniorz said it will probably be the same as 2013, but I would have to wonder also about slow zones in the Roosevelt junction area of the state street subway. Seems my experience is they stop there waiting on the main (ryan) so there might be a few delays. Dont know if they have a tower there or not. But it might be happening if this indeed happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, BusHunter said: And also you got to wonder how this hurts dan ryan service if some of the trains are going via green line south. I don't really see the need for so many green lines to Ashland/63rd in the rush. They could do a few loop trains but that hurts the elevated loop ridership as no one will be waiting for the few trains that show up on an opposing track. So that may be a no go!! Like Juniorz said it will probably be the same as 2013, but I would have to wonder also about slow zones in the Roosevelt junction area of the state street subway. Seems my experience is they stop there waiting on the main (ryan) so there might be a few delays. Dont know if they have a tower there or not. But it might be happening if this indeed happens. Like a stated earlier, I really only imagine the 900 runs starting and ending at Ashland. If some of those . Runs are split shifts, those would be those rush trips. Any full runs would probably have one 95th trip in the middle. I think that all of the 800 runs will go to 95th. I don't imagine Red South being severely impacted. Because.Red south trains will invade Green Line South territory with a higher frequency during rush hour, CTA may opt for restricting Green Line service on the SSM, particularly to 63rd and Ashland. Now no one said how long 98th Yard would be closed. It's possible that they could run all weekend service out of Howard Yard but more than likely not. Based on David Harrison"s post, this is only during rush periods Monday through Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofan78 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Knowing how cta likes to do things out of the ordinary, they will probably split the run numbers similarly to what they did with the Green Line back in 1994. The 900s will still be on the south end, but they'll split them with the lower 900s based out of 95th and 950s and higher based out of Ashland/63. As far as yard space goes, they'll probably run a total of 8 to 14 rush hour Red Line runs to Ashland/63 with a little more than half of those getting laid up. So, you're talking roughly 100 cars- give or take a few. Howard yard holds around 200 Red Line cars. Occasionally, they still send 8 to 16 cars to Linden for nightly cleaning. Plus, I have a feeling they will lay up 8 to 16 cars on the Red Line South on the 63rd Street middle track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 In all likelihood CTA will run weekend shuttle buses between 87th and 95th. I think that's better than running all of the 95th terminal routes to 87th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 3 hours ago, chicagopcclcar said: Why do you think there will be weekend shuttle buses between 87th and 95th. The next phase of construction will not hamper weekend service levels. Weekend Red line schedules can be handled with one yard track. The rumor that 98th St. yard would be closed is false. The next phase hampered the weekday service because of only one yard track access. DH The initial poster said that "Certain weekend closures of 95th with trains and buses running to 87th." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Overall, thank you for the information chicagopcclcar. Guess we'll wait until April for the Howard-Englewood Surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 minute ago, chicagopcclcar said: Here are the run by numbers... AM SB 820, 821, 918, 919, 808, 824, 825, 920, 810, 826, 811, 914, 813, 814. AM NB 820, (821, 918DH), 919, 808DH, 824, 825, (920, 810DH), 826, 811DH, 914, (813, 814DH), PM SB 812, (916, 917DH), 815, 922DH, 817, (924, 816DH), 818, 925DH, 819, 820DH, 821, 822DH. PM NB 916, 917, 912, 922, 815, 924, 816, 817, 925, 818, 820, 819, 822, 921. DH Times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 5 hours ago, chicagopcclcar said: Sorry, those details were not correct. I don't know the source of that. I've tried to post factual details. 98th St. yard will remain open 24 hrs. All Red line trains inservice to 95th St. will operate all the way to the terminal at 95th. Fourteen trips will be diverted to Ashland/63. This happens only on the rush hours, Monday through Friday. Lay-up Red line trains at Ashland/63 will only happen during the mid-day. No Red line trains will be yarded overnight. April 03, 2017 is the date. I like calling this 2017 Englewood "A"....destination Ashland/63rd. I admit, in the months coming, weekend curtailments might happen, but that would not be from the single yard track....construction would need the trains out of the way. DH Thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 So how long is 98th yard OOS? A year? 6 months? Any update on what's up at 95th that they would need to close 98th specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Finally, a CTA Press Release on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klabstep Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Not so fast! 13 hours ago, chicagopcclcar said: The "ole days" return......ENGLEWOOD- HOWARD "A" trains using the southside incline at 13th St. Service starts Monday, 04/03/2017. DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klabstep Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 14 hours ago, chicagopcclcar said: You mean the re-pick concerning operators, switchmen, towermen.....I think CTA will keep its dates. Yes there will be 2 picks, the 2nd and the 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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