garmon757 Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 11 hours ago, Busjack said: Since 25 options have now been exercised for 6485-6509, we now know the answer to that one. We would be, on receipt of the 91 CNGs at 6601. There probably would also be the issue that the 25 Express buses would have been in the middle of the CNG series, although I suggested other ways to avoid that (like making the Expresses 16800-25. bit Pace didn't do that). Indeed. I also thought of 6700s (hell, why not?) since majority of the fleet are in the 6XXX's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, garmon757 said: Indeed. I also thought of 6700s (hell, why not?) since majority of the fleet are in the 6XXX's. Question is essentially why they went half way on the 5 digit ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Busjack said: They being at Ravinia already establishes that. Or maybe they listened to Heather Armstrong. Same thing, just 5 years before you. Or maybe the Transitmaster passenger counter. Or just trying to get a bus in front of HQ (no, that would never happen). The article said "some 40." I had my surmises about that in the New Express Routes topic, but I said they were "random hypothetical thoughts." For instance, I don't know that the overpriced trolley contract has anything to do with the distributor service. And guess what the sum of the highway eldos come out to. (about 40) i think it would be rather embarrassing to have a virtually newly rebuilt expy and here comes #6122 chugging along belching black smoke. they are going to have their best looking buses out there. Same reason we don't have sw's Orions on the I-55 corridor. This is your showcase express service. When was the last time we saw a Wrigley Field express with an Orion? Those days have passed. I haven't seen the Sox buses lately but I bet if they aren't eldo they soon will be even if they have to sub in some CNG's!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 34 minutes ago, BusHunter said: ... here comes #6122 chugging along belching black smoke. It should be gone sooner than later. Obviously, when the service has the big unveiling whenever the Tollway is done "by the end of the year," 600, 603, 605. and 607 are going to be all Axess, and probably wrapped. The current handout so depicts them (although that might only be a logo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 hours ago, BusHunter said: You know it's funny, I talked about the 3 toll gates closed at the rosemont toll plaza and now almost every bus (at least it was last week) is doing the alternate expy entrance (I-90, I-294, I-190Wb, Mannheim, I-190eb, to River Rd to the terminal) Maybe someone is listening. It is free advice. There is a passenger notice that the buses are all detouring that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 hours ago, BusHunter said: Could also be simply River does not have any space for these new buses so they go to Dundee. That would explain why a River driver was driving a Dundee bus. There are technically no Dundee drivers yet. You could probably say Dundee has opened but it is unofficial. Did you ask the driver, or was it one of the 6490s assigned to River (again as I previously noted)? As it was indicated that Dundee is a branch of NW, what's the more interesting question is how they do the pick for that. For instance does some driver do that because she doesn't want to drive to work from Hoffman Estates to Des Plaines? However, it doesn't appear that we have any actual drivers from NW or River to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, Busjack said: Did you ask the driver, or was it one of the 6490s assigned to River (again as I previously noted)? As it was indicated that Dundee is a branch of NW, what's the more interesting question is how they do the pick for that. For instance does some driver do that because she doesn't want to drive to work from Hoffman Estates to Des Plaines? However, it doesn't appear that we have any actual drivers from NW or River to answer. What are you talking about? All the #6490's go to Dundee or at least that's what the tracker shows. I told you a River driver was operating #6497, I saw her arm patch. Now though that a new pick has started for Pace, started this week, I can't say for sure there are no Dundee buses that are technically officially "Dundee" but I would have to say their isn't. It's still sort of like River north, not to be confused with the chicago neighborhood of course. I don't think it will be official til winter pick or spring depending on when the startup is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 55 minutes ago, BusHunter said: What are you talking about? All the #6490's go to Dundee or at least that's what the tracker shows. No it doesn't. I had previously posted a tracker showing 6488 going from Sears to River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Busjack said: No it doesn't. I had previously posted a tracker showing a 6488 going from Sears to River. Then River had a space open that day. That's all that proves. Anyway I said #6490's. It probably doesn't really matter as both garages are technically River right now but we won't be seeing eldorkos at Dundee unless there is a service failure with the new buses at River. I know we had this conversation before so I need a refresher, but didn't you say that River does it's own maintenance. Maybe it's doing Dundee's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, BusHunter said: . I know we had this conversation before so I need a refresher, but didn't you say that River does it's own maintenance. Maybe it's doing Dundee's. I said River was closer to East Dundee than anything else. However, it is also clear that 401-405 Christine was a truck maintenance facility and not a "warehouse." The whole area looks like one huge truck yard (apparently on landfill). River is clearly doing its own maintenance, as someone posted a video of that. As far as what is going on, I suggested before that you ask the driver, instead of assuming something, and, presumably, looking at her Pace patch. Also, as I had mentioned, Dundee is an "outstation" of NW. That's pretty clear from the article, and 6394 going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Busjack said: I said River was closer to East Dundee than anything else. However, it is also clear that 401-405 Christine was a truck maintenance facility and not a "warehouse." The whole area looks like one huge truck yard (apparently on landfill). River is clearly doing its own maintenance, as someone posted a video of that. As far as what is going on, I suggested before that you ask the driver, instead of assuming something, and, presumably, looking at her Pace patch. Also, as I had mentioned, Dundee is an "outstation" of NW. That's pretty clear from the article, and 6394 going there. How can you assume something when it's staring you in the face? A River patch means she's not working at NW. I don't know why #6394 was going there, but it was the only bus. Maybe someone at NW was dropping something off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Alright @BusHunter and @Busjack settle down. What it seems like from what I've reading from both of you is confusion of #6390s and #6490s assignments but does it really matter who got this bus and that bus though??? As long as Dundee and River are cooperating well with their assignments, you both should just lay the conversation about it to rest. Love you guys and be well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, garmon757 said: Alright @BusHunter and @Busjack settle down. What it seems like from what I've reading from both of you is confusion of #6390s and #6490s assignments but does it really matter who got this bus and that bus though??? As long as Dundee and River are cooperating well with their assignments, you both should just lay the conversation about it to rest. Love you guys and be well. I see your point, but essentially why do we have "more bus moves" topics here? There doesn't seem any doubt that 6386-91 are River buses, the new NW garage has not been built, and a split between East Dundee and River has not been established, and probably will not settle down until the whole project is implemented. What started this up anyway was 6219 on 606, as opposed to 353 or 364. Heck, some buses were reported transferred from NS, but NS doesn't seem short. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 It's disappointing I can't debate this with you (busjack) further. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I didn't think anything was wrong with our conversation. I don't think we violated any forum rules, so while I respect Garmons decision, I think he's overextending. If we can't debate anything why are we here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west towns Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 I seem to recall the jobs posted for dundee mentioned they work either dundee or river which should put to rest the favt river and dundee are tied at the hip and not nw and dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west towns Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Could this be a shake down pwriod to get dundee running and things will settle in once the new routes get going and things get moved around? The new buses have to go somewhere then iys a big chese game moving things around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, west towns said: I seem to recall the jobs posted for dundee mentioned they work either dundee or river which should put to rest the favt river and dundee are tied at the hip and not nw and dundee. Job posting for River. That does seem to settle the debate over where the operators are from, especially since the posting for NW makes no mention of Dundee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Busjack said: Also, as I had mentioned, Dundee is an "outstation" of NW. That's pretty clear from the article, and 6394 going there. Is this the article you were referencing? If so, it doesn't specifically say that Dundee will be a branch of NW, only that NW doesn't have the capacity to run the new service. I'm going to take the position that all Dundee operators are from River, and that the highway buses from NW were all transferred there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west towns Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Good work pace831 that about settles it river and dundee are dating. Case closed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 4 hours ago, BusHunter said: It's disappointing I can't debate this with you (busjack) further. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I didn't think anything was wrong with our conversation. I don't think we violated any forum rules, so while I respect Garmons decision, I think he's overextending. If we can't debate anything why are we here? Wait what??? I didn't once say that y'all conversation was wrongdoing. I'm just saying that let River and Dundee get fully established with their assignments. I would've removed y'all posts if that was the scenario. Don't make me come after you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Looks like it has been settled anyway so the Garmon police can go home!! Even the police need to be called to the scene!! They usually dont just show up. You need some sirens or something so I know when I need to hide when I hear you coming!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west towns Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Cant we all just get along. Its only transit were not curing ebola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 We all knew this was coming... 6210 is currently on the #307. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 2700 also at FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 You can add 6208 to W as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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